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post #61 of 69
4/26/10 at 10:02pm
As a musician, a producer and owner and lover of the D2000's and D5000's I will say this: not ideal for mixing.

They are "colored" in a very pleasant way, but by no means flat. Don't get me wrong, I love these phones, but not for mixing.


Frankly, while headphones are a useful tool on the studio, mixing on them is ALWAYS a compromise. If you are serious, and this is an endeavor that you see as long term, I say scrap the headphone idea and get some descent studio monitors.

Blue Bear Sound - Whad'dya Mean I Can't Mix With Headphones????

If living conditions do not allow this, the Sony MDR-7506 (and the Senn2/380) are as good as any other headphone and better than most when it comes to mixing. Being familiar with the sound signature of any new monitors is a must, to really know what mix is going to translate like. It really takes years on the same monitors to get used to them, IMO. Even a magical perfect sounding speaker will take some getting used to because rest assured, nobody else has one and you will still need to tailor your mix to sound good on ANY system.

Just one random guy on the Internet's honest thoughts on the subject.
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post #62 of 69
4/27/10 at 1:07am
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Originally Posted by glacius1 View Post
Sounds good, but not im not sure what model would be the best.

What about the Denon AH-D2000?

Denon AH-D2000 - Sealed Headphones| HeadRoom Audio



Sounds like the exact same thing im looking for. Anyone has it?
Be careful with them Denons and the bass response. It's BIG.
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post #63 of 69
4/27/10 at 7:20am
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by sinner6 View Post
As a musician, a producer and owner and lover of the D2000's and D5000's I will say this: not ideal for mixing.

They are "colored" in a very pleasant way, but by no means flat. Don't get me wrong, I love these phones, but not for mixing.


Frankly, while headphones are a useful tool on the studio, mixing on them is ALWAYS a compromise. If you are serious, and this is an endeavor that you see as long term, I say scrap the headphone idea and get some descent studio monitors.

Blue Bear Sound - Whad'dya Mean I Can't Mix With Headphones????

If living conditions do not allow this, the Sony MDR-7506 (and the Senn2/380) are as good as any other headphone and better than most when it comes to mixing. Being familiar with the sound signature of any new monitors is a must, to really know what mix is going to translate like. It really takes years on the same monitors to get used to them, IMO. Even a magical perfect sounding speaker will take some getting used to because rest assured, nobody else has one and you will still need to tailor your mix to sound good on ANY system.

Just one random guy on the Internet's honest thoughts on the subject.
Well I know this guy "Counterstrike", hes pretty known in the dnb scene and used the D2000. His tunes sound pretty good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OB2tviDP3ms&fmt=18

I'll look for the HD380 tho, but its that a real improvement in sound quality coming from the 280?
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post #64 of 69
4/27/10 at 12:56pm
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Originally Posted by glacius1 View Post
I'll look for the HD380 tho, but its that a real improvement in sound quality coming from the 280?

check the reviews from amazon. few of them have a comparison to 280.
Amazon.com: Sennheiser HD 380 PRO Headphones: Electronics
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post #65 of 69
4/27/10 at 10:33pm
Thread Starter 
Ok guys im keeping the HD650

I did a little experiment:

Since the the cable is so long, i was able to put some music and go out of my room. Then I realized what is pissing me off is the constant fan noise. The sound was great, I was just being distracted by the computer fan noise.

I've seen already some silent cases that make your pc near silent in idle mode. I'll get some and I will be able to enjoy my phones and monitors as well (besides my room size not being ideal, i didn't use them for the same reason).

Sorry for all this mess
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post #66 of 69
4/28/10 at 5:01am
We should make you clean it up.

I could have told you the 650 was the right phone for you. In fact I did, in post #6, but you wouldn't believe me.
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post #67 of 69
6/1/10 at 8:42am
Thread Starter 

Okay,you guys are going to hate me, but I finally returned them.

 

Sorry, couldn't stand the outside noise. Luckly enough I managed to get all my money back.

 

Im yet again with my HD280. I can notice now how freaking good the sound quality was on the HD650, but boy do I love not being annoyed by background noise.

 

So, now, before I pull the trigger again:

 

Whats the best closed phones to produce out there? Again, im into electronica, mainly drum and bass.

 

The winner so far are the Denon AH-D2000.

 

Loads of websites claim that they are the best in the price range. Great clean sound quality with great soundstage while being closed.

http://www.headphone.com/headphones/denon-ah-d2000.php

 

Thanks


Edited by glacius1 - 6/1/10 at 8:47am
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post #68 of 69
6/1/10 at 9:27am

As was mentioned before, I don't think anyone would say the D2000s are neutral, despite the description at Headroom.  Their bass is extremely strong, and their treble can be hot as well.  The mids seem recessed, sandwiched between the two powerful ends of the spectrum.

 

Also, it seems your biggest complaint with the HD650s was the lack of isolation.  I have to tell you that the D2000/5000/7000s have the worst isolation of any closed headphones I've heard.  They will probably be better than the HD650s in terms of blocking out noise, but not by much.

 

I'll just throw a few models out there that might work better for you than the Denons:  AKG K271 MKII, Audio-Technica ATH-M50, Shure SRH-840, Ultrasone PRO 750.

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post #69 of 69
6/1/10 at 1:03pm
Thread Starter 

Cheers, been lookin at these.

 

Seems like the Ultrasone PRO 750 is the best option for me. They say those offer hardcore isolation (like my HD280) and a really flat response with clear sound, no relevant colouring anywhere, which is good since I want my music to be translated to other devices as best as posible.

 

What I also noticed is that they are the most expensive compared to the other models. Why is this?

 

I can get them for 270€ at my dealer.

 

Can anyone that owns them talk about them in detail? Are they really as good at isolating noise without compromising sound quality? Is the sound response good for producing music? and so on.

 

 

PS: Is it worth going a bit nuts and getting the PRO 900? Considering they are really expensive (I can get them for around 370€)

 

PS2: Something i've noticed: My dealer (and all the online shops i've seen) have a different looking version of the 750 compared to the one at the official Ultrasone page.

 

On the left you can see the 750 model being displayed at the Ultrasone page, right is the ones at shops:

 

ultrasone750.jpg

 

I would really like to get the black model (left). That kind of blue colour with white pads looks kinda cheap to the eyes. Any info on this?

 

PS3: Just readed this from someone here:

 

Quote:
After reading about some comparisons on this forum, I decided to try the Denon AHD-2000 headphones. The only other headphones I had were the Ultrasone ProLine 750, which I had been using for a year or so. I liked the Ultrasones, but I'm always seeking the Holy Grail of headphones for rock and classic rock.

Without going into a huge review based on subjective "facts," I am pleased to report that the Denons won out over the Ultrasones (!). To me, it all came down to what I call "track separation." When listening to the Denons, I could hear more detail, and especially more separation in the individual tracks of the recording. The frequency response is excellent in both cans. I guess I just prefer a more accurate headphone, rather then the S-logic coloration.
I will say that the Denons have a Grado-esque quality to them...they seem to excel at rock....and they are much more comfortable to wear.
My setup: NAD 325BEE CD player, Diamondback cables, PPA v.2 w/ dedicated power supply. Headphones I have owned in the past: Grado SR-80, SR-325, Ultrasone 750s.

 

 

The Denon are more flat? That S-logic thing really colours the sound?

 

Man is it hard to take a decision with headphones.


Edited by glacius1 - 6/1/10 at 1:24pm
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