Got the cans three days ago. (even if it says yesterday on the title)
Im coming from my good ol' Sennheiser HD280Pro
My DAC: NI AK1
My first thoughts were: This sounds muddy.
Every single track im listening to, has like some sort of muddy mid range feel to it, and im not feeling that, because all my attention goes to this. I've heard they don't "open up" until at least 100 hours of usage. I hope they do, because im not convinced this is worth 300€ so far.
Another thing i've noticed is they are lacking a bit of the really high frequencies. Everything I play, regardless the genre, sounds way too smooth. Even some mixes that I KNOW are way too harsh at the 13-16khz areas. I feel those harsh sounding hi hats are getting smoothered with the HD 650 and I fear that I can't trust them when mixing. I didn't buy them for pleasurable long period of time listening sessions but to mix as accurate as possible. Also, feels like they don't fully shine until you turn them considerably loud (probably because I was used to the isolation of the HD280 where you could get all the details at really low volumes). What really impresses me is the low end reproduction. Closest thing to having a subwoofer on a nicely threaten room inside your head i've ever heard. Thats cool since I produce electronica, mainly drum and bass.
The reason I bought them is I wanted the best headphone out there to produce, because I can't have monitors on my little bedroom. I readed a lot, and I've heard lots of comments argumenting how closed headphones are not good for producing because of some technical reasons I don't remember. I also heard that the HD 650 had a really flat response (something that you want if you want accurate translations to other sound devices) but at the same time not sounding extremely clinical (I thought, "ok"). But to me, they sound coloured as I said, specially around the mid range area, being way too much "laid back". It has that "hi-fi, produced" whatever feel on every single hihat, regardless the track.
Im really missing the fact that my HD280Pro were closed and you wouldn't get any distractions from the outside, even if its subtle sounds like fan noise from my computer. This means I have to play them louder in order to block the outside noise, and thats bad for my ears.
I obviously knew they were open, but I thought I could adapt to the background noise. The thing is I can't. I don't understand how someone can listen/mix music with background noises, even if its some really subtle fan computer noise, the voice of someone far away, whatever. Gets on my nerves.
Im afraid i'll return them since I don't think I can't stand the background noises. And (unless this doesn't change after a couple of days) they are still sounding a bit muffled, like if there was some sort of midrange filter cutting the frequencies there, lacking a bit of clarity.
I've been looking at closed cans that deliver high end sound quality and someone mentioned the Denon D2000 can compete with the HD650 while being closed and are really comfortable. What are other closed headphones that are good for mixing out there? Around the same price range as the HD650.
Please drop some advice, im kinda dissapointed with this investment
Im coming from my good ol' Sennheiser HD280Pro
My DAC: NI AK1
My first thoughts were: This sounds muddy.
Every single track im listening to, has like some sort of muddy mid range feel to it, and im not feeling that, because all my attention goes to this. I've heard they don't "open up" until at least 100 hours of usage. I hope they do, because im not convinced this is worth 300€ so far.
Another thing i've noticed is they are lacking a bit of the really high frequencies. Everything I play, regardless the genre, sounds way too smooth. Even some mixes that I KNOW are way too harsh at the 13-16khz areas. I feel those harsh sounding hi hats are getting smoothered with the HD 650 and I fear that I can't trust them when mixing. I didn't buy them for pleasurable long period of time listening sessions but to mix as accurate as possible. Also, feels like they don't fully shine until you turn them considerably loud (probably because I was used to the isolation of the HD280 where you could get all the details at really low volumes). What really impresses me is the low end reproduction. Closest thing to having a subwoofer on a nicely threaten room inside your head i've ever heard. Thats cool since I produce electronica, mainly drum and bass.
The reason I bought them is I wanted the best headphone out there to produce, because I can't have monitors on my little bedroom. I readed a lot, and I've heard lots of comments argumenting how closed headphones are not good for producing because of some technical reasons I don't remember. I also heard that the HD 650 had a really flat response (something that you want if you want accurate translations to other sound devices) but at the same time not sounding extremely clinical (I thought, "ok"). But to me, they sound coloured as I said, specially around the mid range area, being way too much "laid back". It has that "hi-fi, produced" whatever feel on every single hihat, regardless the track.
Im really missing the fact that my HD280Pro were closed and you wouldn't get any distractions from the outside, even if its subtle sounds like fan noise from my computer. This means I have to play them louder in order to block the outside noise, and thats bad for my ears.
I obviously knew they were open, but I thought I could adapt to the background noise. The thing is I can't. I don't understand how someone can listen/mix music with background noises, even if its some really subtle fan computer noise, the voice of someone far away, whatever. Gets on my nerves.
Im afraid i'll return them since I don't think I can't stand the background noises. And (unless this doesn't change after a couple of days) they are still sounding a bit muffled, like if there was some sort of midrange filter cutting the frequencies there, lacking a bit of clarity.
I've been looking at closed cans that deliver high end sound quality and someone mentioned the Denon D2000 can compete with the HD650 while being closed and are really comfortable. What are other closed headphones that are good for mixing out there? Around the same price range as the HD650.
Please drop some advice, im kinda dissapointed with this investment
