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post #16 of 40
Beyer DT990s for gaming. : P

Agree with Envy here, AD700 too light on for bass for myself, although their soundstage /positional audio is excellent.
post #17 of 40
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Beyer DT990s for gaming. : P
Have you tried AD700 with X-Fi sound card with CMSS-3D on? Can't get much better than that.
post #18 of 40
You could consider the K601 too, which is warmer and more relaxed than the K701, and supposedly has a little more mid bass (I don't own both though, so you'll have to search for all the comparison topics to get into real detail).

As for the AD700 vs. the K701 and K601, I have read the soundstage of the AD700 is fairly similar to the K601, though possibly a little larger. And supposedly the K701 has a bigger soundstage than the K601.

When it comes down to it though, I haven't really heard anyone complain about any of these three headphones when it comes to positional audio alone, but some would argue they lack weight and body when aiming to fully immerse you in single player.
post #19 of 40
Thread Starter 
Thanks again everyone. One more question for Mad Lust Envy: Is it mainly the soundstage that makes the 880s a little better than the 770 pro? Thanks for the info on the headband, that's actually a big plus as I'm always shifting the 770's do to discomfort on top of my head.

I'm almost 100% a singleplayer gamer, so pinpointing an enemy isn't as big of a deal as getting immersed into the environment. The 3d aspect is definitely wanted, but I'm not a competitive gamer.

The reason I originally got interest in the AKG 701's is because the reviews say that the sound is the most "speaker like" that they've ever heard, meaning the sound feels as though its coming from outside of the headphones. If the Beyer 880's are like that, then I'm sold (since they seem to have a good-ish amount of bass). I'm sure the Audio technica's do this too, but again I'm not into those because I keep reading that the bass is nearly non-existent (which is why I didn't like the Senns hd595s that I owned, which are said to have more bass than the AT's).

Anyway, thanks again.
post #20 of 40
I dunno, I had the AD700... sure soundstage was big... highs a little too over done for my tastes. I also use the Turtle Beach HPX and that is my gaming headset that I continually go back to. I ended up rebuilding the AD700s (total Mod makeover), and sold them... still gaming with the HPX and still very much like them. They don't beat the AD700 in sound stage or highs, but they win everywhere else... and the sound stage on the AD700s isn't that much bigger than the HPX. I feel the AD700s sound almost like an echo chamber which gives it this illusion of a huge soundstage, but with the HPX, you don't get that feeling... and the 3D positioning is still fantastic. Well, that's my opinion. I'm getting another AD700 to Mod, but not for me to keep. I will continue to use the HPX.
post #21 of 40
Thread Starter 
Anyone using an amp for either the AKG 701 or the Beyer Dynamic 880 premiums? How's the soundstage/bass for that set up?

I'm also wondering how much an amp would improve sound on my current set of Beyer Dynamic 770 pros. I'm seriously thinking about the Little Dot MK2 as my first amp, which might sway my temptation for new cans. Keep in mind that I have an on board amp in my x-fi forte, so I'm not sure of the difference, or if it would make sense to add another amp (though better) to the setup.

I notice with the 770 pros that if I hold them away from my head just enough to let air in, that the sound is much more open and to my liking? I'm guessing this is similar to how an open-back set of cans would sound? In that case the 880 premiums might be the ticket for me. Definitely open to your thoughts.

Thanks.
post #22 of 40
There is a lot of discussion of the AKG K702 (which has much love) for gaming on the AVS Forums...
What gaming headphones to buy? - AVS Forum

Skip to the last 20 pages or so... that's where most of the AKG K702 chat really begins
post #23 of 40
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Originally Posted by chinesekiwi View Post
the beyerdynamic DT880 would be better for gaming or well, even a STAX setup!
I'm sure eardmg and kool_bubba_Ice would chip iin in this thread as well.
Thank you.

I'm not too keen on the 701/2 for gaming, especially FPS.. The Sound stage IMO is artificially big to the point you 'get lost' in it. This was my experience playing COD 2. Lacks 'exciting' bass for explosions, which could be a good thing if you are a competitive gamer.. The DT880 has more bass & boom, but is still relatively tight, well defined & textured depending on the amp.. The bass gives you a better sense of being there, but not so much as to drown out other frequencies that would impede your hearing of foot steps or other micro ambient type noises.. For a dynamic 400 & under the DT880 is it, especially for 3rd shooters, still awesome for FPS, but for FPS I always went for the MDR F1.. Better spatial ability..
post #24 of 40
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Originally Posted by WayTooCrazy View Post
There is a lot of discussion of the AKG K702 (which has much love) for gaming on the AVS Forums...
What gaming headphones to buy? - AVS Forum

Skip to the last 20 pages or so... that's where most of the AKG K702 chat really begins
You should sell cables on ebay..
post #25 of 40
Thread Starter 
Cool. I'm starting to lean towards the Beyer Dynamic 880 premiums more and more. These combined with a nice tube amp seem like a good solution (the little dot MK 2 is what I have my eyes on).

Do you guys think this is a relatively good upgrade over the dt770pros (which I currently own), considering that my main goal is to keep the good bass, but widen my soundstage and 3D effect?

Thanks for all of the good info.
post #26 of 40
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Originally Posted by kool bubba ice View Post
You should sell cables on ebay..
Lol, I didn't want him to check out the AVS thread as an advertisement. I just figured there is enough K702 gamers there that he could get their opinion. Even though the K702 are on my list of phones to acquire (not for gaming), they're near the bottom of that list. I have other 'phones (fun) that have my interests at the moment (especially for modding... ).
post #27 of 40
the k701/2 is just a "better" ad700.... it does everything the ad700 does, as good or better, and this is all just with the mixamp, i have yet to experience the k70x with a proper amp.

as it stands, unamped, you're better off with just getting the ad700, as it is almost as good for gaming unamped and is quite a bit cheaper... music is another discussion though.




also, there are really two types of gamers. Myself, i'm 95% online, FPS... where as mad lust envy is 95% offline, since he doesnt even have xbl gold anymore

if you're the online type, you dont want something bassy, the ad700 is the perfect can.... if you're the immersed single player type, you definitely want a more "fun" can like the 770/880/etc, because situation awareness is really not needed at all... computer AI in any game isnt good enough (yet) to really even worry about soundstage or positioning.... really i'd save some money and not even buy any beyers and just get some M50's or something.
post #28 of 40
Thread Starter 
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also, there are really two types of gamers. Myself, i'm 95% online, FPS... where as mad lust envy is 95% offline
I agree, and I fall into the offline camp, though positional audio is still important imo because of immersion, and though I'm not as likely to try to position enemies as much as I would online (like in bad company 2 for example) hearing the sounds in game where they are supposed to be is truly awesome, and even better when they present the correct sense of depth. Hearing a dog bark in game, or a distant voice for example, and taking my cans off thinking that it was a real sound outside is a really fun experience and adds to the immersion. That's the main reason I want soundstage and depth. "Feeling" the game: explosions, gun shots, etc. is why I want the punchy bass.

I play every type of game out there (except MMOs) and all of them have benefited from a good set of cans. As mentioned, I already have the dt770's and have owned Senns 595s and the Denon 2k, all of which aren't as fun as the beyers.

Now i'm just torn as to whether a 250ohm dt880 with amp is worth the upgrade from my dt770 pro?

Thanks again for all of the info.
post #29 of 40
Sounds like you should get the Amp first and see how that helps your DT770s. Then, decide on a headphone afterwards (with the Amp already out of the way).
post #30 of 40
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Originally Posted by WayTooCrazy View Post
Lol, I didn't want him to check out the AVS thread as an advertisement. I just figured there is enough K702 gamers there that he could get their opinion. Even though the K702 are on my list of phones to acquire (not for gaming), they're near the bottom of that list. I have other 'phones (fun) that have my interests at the moment (especially for modding... ).
I already asked him to make me a 4 pin to 1.4 plug extension cable.. Mine is wearing thin.
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