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post #46 of 155
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Originally Posted by spritzer View Post
Trust me on this, the import rates you pay are nothing compared to the ones we pay here in Iceland. Something like the ESX would be easy enough to get any custom amp maker to build as it is no more complicated then a classic EL34 based speaker amp.



I presume you meant the T2 (006t and 600 are the T1 replacements) and we know for a fact that Stax will never manufacture anything that complicated again. If they were going to we would never had gotten permission to build a DIY version of their design.
Spritzer, the solution to our amping problems is clear: YOU NEED TO OPEN A SMALL/SPECIALIZED AMP COMPANY, all Europe would be at your feet! think about it....
post #47 of 155
I have thought about it (usually when I get depressed with all the crap out there ) but I don't know if I'll ever have the time to do anything about it. There is also the problem of logistics and taxes as Iceland stands outside of the EU and with no electronics industry there are no companies around to provide the services a venture like this would need (chassis manufacturing and finishing for one).
post #48 of 155
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Originally Posted by GuyDebord View Post
Spritzer, the solution to our amping problems is clear: YOU NEED TO OPEN A SMALL/SPECIALIZED AMP COMPANY, all Europe would be at your feet! think about it....
Putting in a preorder already too
And yes, it was the T2.
post #49 of 155
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Spritzer, the solution to our amping problems is clear: YOU NEED TO OPEN A SMALL/SPECIALIZED AMP COMPANY, all Europe would be at your feet! think about it....
And probably a good part of North America and Asia too.......
post #50 of 155
I'd be interested!
post #51 of 155
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Originally Posted by spritzer View Post
I have thought about it (usually when I get depressed with all the crap out there ) but I don't know if I'll ever have the time to do anything about it. There is also the problem of logistics and taxes as Iceland stands outside of the EU and with no electronics industry there are no companies around to provide the services a venture like this would need (chassis manufacturing and finishing for one).
Even with your logistics problems I would probably get a T2 from you before my BHSE arrives.

JHellow
post #52 of 155
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Originally Posted by Larry I View Post
Has anyone cancelled their BHSE order to get the Woo (or any other model) and how successful have people been in getting back their deposit? It is looking more and more like I should have ordered a Woo and not a Woe.
I don't know but I am considering to cancel my BHSE order (fully-paid) and ask for a refund.
post #53 of 155
One would have to be insane to offer the T2 for sale in any shape or form. It's quite amazing that KG managed to complete the T2 project so quickly given just how complicated that thing is. Those coming to CJ in June will be in for a treat.
post #54 of 155
I would love to hear either amp ASAP, however, I will hopefully be buying one of these monsters soon.

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Originally Posted by AppleheadMay View Post
Please do let me know, would be a pretty good comparison for me!
And yes, the set was very much to my liking too.
I was the second to pm, a few hours later though, and said I'd buy it straight away, no hassles.
But me living across the pond might have lessened my chances I'm afraid.
Anyway, I comforted myself by ordering a Luxman for my dynamics, but since I can only get it beginning of July at the earliest, probably more likely end of August after the holidays I comforted myself again with a Phonitor. That one should be delivered next week.
Now I just need to figure out how to tell my wife. I think I'll start with the Phonitor and wait a few weeks to explain the rest.
But she felt sorry for me missing out on the Stax set, guess that's usable ...
Actually, I was second to contact Carl about the set. He and I spoke on the telephone for awhile about HiFi, cars, and other stuff. He confirmed I was second to PM him, about 20 or so minutes after the thread went up.

Second place did not score me the 717, though. = )
post #55 of 155
The choice for me would be:

amping O2's then the BHSE
amping Senn's or 4070's or Lambdas then I'd go WES

The BHSE locks in brilliantly with the 02 but I found it too bright with other stats.
The WES was jus a bit dull with the 02s but great with all others

just my 2 cents
post #56 of 155
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Originally Posted by jp11801 View Post
The BHSE locks in brilliantly with the 02 but I found it too bright with other stats
I recall others saying this about the BHSE too.

Does this mean that the BHSE is a bright amp? The O2mk1 and O2mk2 do seem to be the two relatively "dark-sounding" electrostats. The others all seem to be tonally grouped together, and all are brighter than the O2's.

Does this also mean the O2's are not exactly neutral? Since it takes a bright amp to make them sound tonally balanced, and the same amp makes all other electrostats sound too bright.

And to think that the large majority of O2 owners are not using a BH or BHSE, and therefore are listening to a dull and dark sound!
post #57 of 155
The BH is very revealing in the top end but it isn't a bright amp IMHO. It's certainly one of the few amps that can push the necessary volts into the very punishing load many transducers present in the top end. The problem is that most electrostatics are bright or rather have some HF issues which may present as brightness. Lack of damping is the real culprit here...
post #58 of 155
John that is exactly what I thought listening to the O2's and HE90's out of the BHSE. It drove the O2's well but sounded shrill and forced with the HE90's. The Aristaeus in comparison sounds much more fluid and effortless with the HE90's, but it was also voiced for them. Gary
post #59 of 155
So it's the others that are too bright and not the O2's that are too dark.

I think the BHSE has better details and dynamics than the Aristaeus. It also seems more transparent to the source material.

When tubed with GEC KT77, the BHSE can be a good match with the HE90. Still not as much smoothness as the Aristaeus, perhaps, but it has better details and dynamics.

I wonder about the WES vs. Aristaeus using the HE90, maybe the upcoming CanJam will have some impressions.
post #60 of 155
There can't be only one
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Originally Posted by GuyDebord View Post
What are your views and opinions, if you were going for any of the two, which one would it be?
It all depends on which headphones you are using. Given you have both the 007A's & the 4070's - two top e-stats with quite different basic sound signatures, pros, & cons - it seems near impossible to select one amp & tube complement to...er, compliment both simultaneously. In general, jp#'s post sums up my (admittedly limited) experience with Stax & the various top e-stat amps mentioned. Synergy is king. It all depends on where you want your euphony/detail to come from.

Perhaps a better question is which tube sets work best with each Stax on your Woo WES?
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