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post #91 of 105
Oh, soundstage is me taking a walk and turning around to see what is making a strange sound only to realize that the sound was an electronic instrument in my headphones. That was pretty funny and cool.
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post #92 of 105
You need to consider the manufacturing as well as the sound when dictating price and quality. AKGs are made in Austria where wages and costs are higher and they cater for a specilaist market covering headphones and microphones.

Sony make everything electrical under the sun often where labour and costs are cheaper. So it would be reasonable to expect their headphones to cost less.

But, there is no reason why AKG should sound better than Sony.

(I am generalising to make a point and just picked on AKG and Sony as rough examples)
post #93 of 105
Take a look at my fairly good headphone rig in my sig. Now, I will tell you this, I could live with stock iPod earphones. Yes, I went there I am sure I will regret the day I said this when I listen to music other than metal, but for now, that is what I listen to and iBuds are fine for that. For me, it is more about the sound signature of different headphones which get me hooked, not the detail, timbre etc. My Grado HF-2 were the most fun headphones i have ever heard, but I got used to the DT880 and the HF-2 don't get much headtime anymore, they are too bright I don't plan on selling them though, unless for something like a Vintage RS-1 or HP-1000. So to the OP, I also think that you should buy a few pairs of headphones and see which sound signature you prefer. Maybe try a Sennheiser, Grado and Denon. Or you could just get something like the SRH-840 and you will probably be done, not sure on that though.
post #94 of 105
150$ +++ is good, i know u ask like that.. Cause u never heard them before.. Have u heard jh16 pro..? Have you hard r10..? None of them..? Thats why.. 5$ iem is a trash.. Its made only from garbage material.. Try r10, and i say welcome to audio paradise.. ..

Read basic first.. Try at wikipedia.. Have you read time news..?
They say "Better earphone cost many money" .. U didnt know what is art of audio..
Then u not belong here.. Get out .. Lol
post #95 of 105
Whaaaa?
post #96 of 105
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Originally Posted by iPhone4G View Post
150$ +++ is good, i know u ask like that.. Cause u never heard them before.. Have u heard jh16 pro..? Have you hard r10..? None of them..? Thats why.. 5$ iem is a trash.. Its made only from garbage material.. Try r10, and i say welcome to audio paradise.. ..

Read basic first.. Try at wikipedia.. Have you read time news..?
They say "Better earphone cost many money" .. U didnt know what is art of audio..
Then u not belong here.. Get out .. Lol
Good idea. If you're going to upgrade your $5 buds, might as well jump right into the $5,000 range. What's to lose?
post #97 of 105
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Originally Posted by Head Injury View Post
Good idea. If you're going to upgrade your $5 buds, might as well jump right into the $5,000 range. What's to lose?
Let me fix that for you:

"Good ida. If ur +++ $5 crap, go spend $5k. Better lol"

In all seriousness though, I agree with the sarcasm. The OP doesn't need anything fancy, just something that will not be the weakest link in the chain.
post #98 of 105
since most of us have never heard a 5 grant pair. Could anyone who has kindly point out the difference compared to a <$200 pair? I would love to try but never had a chance
post #99 of 105
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Originally Posted by Noobiiee View Post
since most of us have never heard a 5 grant pair. Could anyone who has kindly point out the difference compared to a <$200 pair? I would love to try but never had a chance
lol I think that's just the HE90, there other are headphones that have really high used prices because they're the out of production rarities - Qualia 010, R10 and L3000, amongst others... Even the R10 and 010 were 'just' $2.5K and $3K when new.... Omega II might cost that much, depending on the location.

Performance-wise... I should let someone else speak. Price is an unreliable indicator but generally past about ~$350-new for full sized cirumaural cans with a good setup, you really shouldn't be getting no/very limited soundstage or poor instrument separation and there should be a decent amount of detail.
post #100 of 105
i was in same position as u prob 2 months ago ... i used to have some super "bassy" sony ear buds which cost about 40 retail and i thought they were pretty good ... i somehow ended up on a youtube video advertising the monster turbines and wanted to experience how the hell people can spend 200 on earphones... so i impulse bought them

at first i was disappointed .. i prob expected a huge nirvana experience, but after time i started realising the audio differences from cheap and expensive bud (dunno if it was burn in or just exposure)

so from that point on i thought how can 500 dollar earphones sound better than 200, i thought the turbines were already perfect. luckily i got to try the tf10's recently and they were amazing, so much that i dont really like my turbines as much anymore

well end of the story i now spent about 1000 bucks on audio gear from this new hobby which was instigated by your question right now, you really need to try these "200 dollar headphones"

hope this helps
post #101 of 105

Yea man, but you still don't convince me not to someday get the Senns HD800. Sorry

post #102 of 105

I have about a dozen headphones ranging from $20 (Koss KSC75) to $699 MSRP (Sony MDR-SA500).  Personally, good headphones are good headphones, and I would say most expensive headphones are overpriced.  From my experience, great headphones can be had for less than $300, and headphones that come VERY close in quality can be had for about $100-$200.  Are my $600 Sonys better than my $350 Beyer DT880s......NO.  Were my $250 Grado SR225i better than my $100 Grado SR60.....BARELY.  Psychoacoustics and expectation bias can really burn a hole in your bank account.

 

Remember, this is audiophile-land, and audiophiles have a ridiculous tendency to think that more expensive gear sounds better (including $500 cables).  Take a trip to Long and McQuade and see what the professional audio engineers are using.  They would bust a gut if you spent more than a few hundred on any source / amp or headphone. 

post #103 of 105

Look at the quality, such as the Ultrasone Edition 8's do you really get palladium of a pair of sub $100 headphones. I DONT THINK SOOOO!!!!!!!!!

post #104 of 105

Imo,  not always the price is an indicator of quality....sometimes you can have a sub $100 headphones with better quality than $200 cans. 

post #105 of 105
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Originally Posted by Catharsis View Post

Remember, this is audiophile-land, and audiophiles have a ridiculous tendency to think that more expensive gear sounds better (including $500 cables).  Take a trip to Long and McQuade and see what the professional audio engineers are using.  They would bust a gut if you spent more than a few hundred on any source / amp or headphone. 


 

Flawed comparison as headphones for recording and mixing purposes require different things out of it. All (oh ok, most) audiophiles just want what's the best for their cash. Tbh, there's too much 'new toy hype' syndrome on here, particularly with sources / DACs. A lot of audiophiles don't understand / are ignorant of audio-based science and that costs you monetarily in this hobby. Earphones are really the only sub section of audio really where true innovation (as in better sound quality for cheaper as time progresses, different implementation of technology e.g. Jays SIREN, the use of the 'moving armature' (combonation of dynamic and Balanced Armature (BA) ) is happening tbh. And it ain't being driven by us hobbyists. It's being driven by Joe Average and his hunger for portable audio.

Anyway, yes, there is a depreciation of value as cost goes up in audio. It's just where on the graph you are willing to hop off. I've listened to everything from HD800's to cheap $2 earbuds that sound worse (yes worse) than ibuds.


Edited by chinesekiwi - 5/31/10 at 7:40am
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