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12/10/12 at 3:28pm
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I just switched to Dvorak, but the keycaps aren't all equal, so I need to find some more.
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post #947 of 1221
12/10/12 at 5:04pm
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Yeah, I do. Took me quite a while to get used to though. Have been using it for a little more than a year by now I think. While it's an improvement for typing it has quite a few drawbacks as well. Certain hotkeys don't work any more, in games you have to rebind pretty much every key before you can play them and it's not supported natively by windows. (although I'm not sure about that in windows 8 right now) Seeing as a do most of my typing at my own computer, it's been worth it for me. Not so much for improvement in speed, but much more so an improvement in how much less problems with RSI I've got compared to when I used qwerty. Still I think that if you plan on switching to another keyboard layout you shouldn't do so lightly. It takes quite a while before you can type a reasonable 50 wpm again which may be a problem if you're using a computer for work. You might also run into the problem of not being able to type as quickly as you're used to when using other computers than your own.

I started a few nights ago and I'm at 20 WPM.  I hope to be typing at least 30 by the end of the week.  Anyway, I'm running Ubuntu so I just switch layouts on the fly.  Been about 70% Colemak, and 30% QWERTY since I started.

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post #948 of 1221
12/10/12 at 5:19pm

Programmer Dvorak user here.

Not sure about the typing speed, because I make a lot of spelling errors, but its much more comfortable for my hands. Qwerty sucks if you don't have extra long fingers.

 

The only issue is when you have to use another persons' laptop/pc with the Qwerty layout (I type like a caveman, searching for every key), or they have to use yours (fun to watch).


Edited by proton007 - 12/10/12 at 5:21pm
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post #949 of 1221
12/10/12 at 6:42pm
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Programmer Dvorak user here.

Not sure about the typing speed, because I make a lot of spelling errors, but its much more comfortable for my hands. Qwerty sucks if you don't have extra long fingers.

 

The only issue is when you have to use another persons' laptop/pc with the Qwerty layout (I type like a caveman, searching for every key), or they have to use yours (fun to watch).

Oh nice, googled that just now and that was a fun short read.

 

I really never do understand why qwerty is so common... because seriously it's so inconveint 

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post #950 of 1221
12/10/12 at 7:04pm
The Qwerty layout is designed to be inefficient. The reason it’s so popular is because in order for any mass adoption of something else you’d have to retrain every typist on the planet.

And when I say it was design to be inefficient, it was designed to limit the maximum speed at which someone could type on a mechanical typewriter so as to limit the instance of keys jamming into each other when they went to press on the paper. Half a dozen formats have been suggested over the years but none are ever adopted in enough numbers to really dethrone the Qwerty layout.
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post #951 of 1221
12/10/12 at 7:14pm
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The Qwerty layout is designed to be inefficient. The reason it’s so popular is because in order for any mass adoption of something else you’d have to retrain every typist on the planet.
And when I say it was design to be inefficient, it was designed to limit the maximum speed at which someone could type on a mechanical typewriter so as to limit the instance of keys jamming into each other when they went to press on the paper. Half a dozen formats have been suggested over the years but none are ever adopted in enough numbers to really dethrone the Qwerty layout.

I say it's a government conspiracy to enforce a sort of Typist Communism on us lol 

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12/10/12 at 8:43pm
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Where can I find a set of Dvorak keycaps? I want no ridges on f and j, but them on u and h, preferably double-shot, as long as the price is reasonable.
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post #953 of 1221
12/10/12 at 8:49pm
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Where can I find a set of Dvorak keycaps? I want no ridges on f and j, but them on u and h, preferably double-shot, as long as the price is reasonable.

http://keycapsdirect.com/marketplace.php Might have it.

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12/10/12 at 9:03pm
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http://keycapsdirect.com/marketplace.php Might have it.
Way too expensive xD
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post #955 of 1221
12/10/12 at 9:15pm
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Way too expensive xD


From what I can see, you only need to replace 4 keys (2 no-ridge F/J, and two ridged U/H), and the rest can be re-arranged.

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post #956 of 1221
12/10/12 at 10:22pm
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From what I can see, you only need to replace 4 keys (2 no-ridge F/J, and two ridged U/H), and the rest can be re-arranged.

Depends if the keys are slanted.

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post #957 of 1221
12/10/12 at 10:49pm
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Depends if the keys are slanted.

This. All keyboard keys are equal, but some keys are just more equal than others. smily_headphones1.gif

A while ago I ran ubuntu on my laptop and it had the nasty habit of not switching to colemak for the login screen. Is that still the same?
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post #958 of 1221
12/10/12 at 11:11pm
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Programmer Dvorak user here.
Not sure about the typing speed, because I make a lot of spelling errors, but its much more comfortable for my hands. Qwerty sucks if you don't have extra long fingers.

The only issue is when you have to use another persons' laptop/pc with the Qwerty layout (I type like a caveman, searching for every key), or they have to use yours (fun to watch).

Incidentally, I do have long fingers, although not sure if it's extra long or not. It is considering that I'm Asian and most have their fingers only reach the final bend of mine, barely. But still, the most and quickest finger to get tired for me is my pinky. Might want to try other layouts in the future, but I don't think I can afford to retrain myself at the moment.
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post #959 of 1221
12/10/12 at 11:49pm
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Depends if the keys are slanted.


Ah, yes.

Then there's no choice I guess. Get the plain keys, no marking, then there's no issue. tongue.gif

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post #960 of 1221
12/11/12 at 10:11am
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This. All keyboard keys are equal, but some keys are just more equal than others. smily_headphones1.gif
A while ago I ran ubuntu on my laptop and it had the nasty habit of not switching to colemak for the login screen. Is that still the same?

You just have to put Colemak on the top of your preference list.

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