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post #16 of 24
4/15/10 at 5:30pm
I think the accuracy and the bass make the M50 good for gaming. However, and I mean a BIG HOWEVER, the lack of width in the soundstage might make the M50 a poor choice for gamers. The way games are being produced now, especially PS3 games, you really want to take advantage of sound. You may hear something sneaking up from behind you in a game, but if it's already inside your head and not giving you feeling that it's 10 feet behind you, then you are missing the overall experience.

I tried my D2000 and my M50's on Metal Gear Solid IV and it was no contest. The D2000 delivered the boom in the bass department as well as a nice big, wide soundstage.

If cost is an issue, the M50 is a great choice. Maybe ATH700 if you don't care about the bass. But an open back can will certainly deliver the nice wide sound.
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post #17 of 24
4/15/10 at 5:36pm
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Originally Posted by Slaughter View Post
No reason they have to be open. I just got some M50's yeasterday and played some BF2 last night using Creative CMSS. Positioning was much better than I thought for closed phones. They sounded great. They are a bit heavy, clamp a little and the pleather pads get warm, but thats the price you pay for closed phones that have good isolation. I think they make pretty good gaming phones if you need closed, which I do.
As I said for TS/vent they should be open otherwise you wont hear yourself talking. Obviously you're not in a clan so of course you don't know how it is when talking to your buddies while you play but trust me, closed cans don't work well for that.
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post #18 of 24
4/15/10 at 6:18pm
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As I said for TS/vent they should be open otherwise you wont hear yourself talking. Obviously you're not in a clan so of course you don't know how it is when talking to your buddies while you play but trust me, closed cans don't work well for that.
actually i was in clan in bf2 but never in any hifi headphones, just the pc chat kind of ones

almost decided on the M50s, dont want to spend on d2000 and cannot stand the color of the a700 or ad700


Thanks guys
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post #19 of 24
4/15/10 at 6:24pm
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Originally Posted by bharat617 View Post
actually i was in clan in bf2 but never in any hifi headphones, just the pc chat kind of ones

almost decided on the M50s, dont want to spend on d2000 and cannot stand the color of the a700 or ad700


Thanks guys
Color???? Sounds like you're buying a car. "What's it gonna take for me to get your head inside these cans today?" LOL. JK.

There is quite a steep difference in price between the D2000 and the M50. I really don't think you'll be unhappy with the M50 though. They are pretty solid all the way around.
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post #20 of 24
4/15/10 at 6:45pm
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yeah they are too purple for my taste

now that u say A700, those look nice, now im confused again between the M50 and A700

u gotta pick one i guess, the A700 are being sold by amazon which i trust more than B&H where i would get the M50s

i'll flip a coin tonight and choose one of them i guess
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post #21 of 24
4/15/10 at 7:04pm
Well comparing my Sennheiser hd555s vs m50s for gaming I would go with the 555s. The sound stage in the m50s is just too small for games. The m50s sound a lot better (bass, speed, fun), but the directional sound is just not there imo. If you do get them I would use something like CMSS-3d and get the straight cable version.
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post #22 of 24
4/15/10 at 8:56pm
yep 555s are perfect for gaming
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post #23 of 24
4/15/10 at 9:01pm
Didn't he just say he wanted closed cans?
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post #24 of 24
4/15/10 at 9:11pm
What headphones for gaming are suitable depends very much on if you're using surround virtualisation - and if so what type.

If you're using pure stereo you want a big soundstage with angled drivers. HD555 or AD700 are the sort of thing I'm thinking of. Same goes for CMSS-3D Headphone on X-Fi.

If you're using Dolby Headphone, you need a detailed - well controlled headphone. The less speaker-like presentation the better (angled drivers are actually detrimental to positioning). Accuracy and detail are far more important than soundstage, as Dolby Headphone fakes it. Something like Beyerdynamic DT770 or Goldring NS1000 is better here.

Other virtualisation types will have different demands for headphone synergy.

There is no universally good gaming headphone. It just depends what equipment you're using it with. If you add 8 soundcards or codecs in the last 3 years and a receiver with headphone virtualisation to the headphones in my sig, you'll get the idea of the number of combinations I've tried (plus others tried at LANs etc) so I guess that I'm better placed than most to comment.
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