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tf 10's: quality question

post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 
Can someone clear this up for me? It seems like I read - and there are a blue-million threads here so it could have been anywhere - that when Logitec bought the tf10's, the build quality and maybe the sound quality went down. Did I imagine seeing this somewhere?

I am wondering because when I read all the reviews, I would think 90% of them refer to the pre-Logitec versions.
post #2 of 17
I don't believe there is anything definitive, the most recent talk has been in this thread starting around post 19. There was another thread linked in there, but there was no consensus from people who owned both pre & post-Logitech at the same time about what if any (good/bad/no) change in quality there existed between the two. More of the people saying there was a SQ decrease were folks that just sort of "remembered" how it sounded (but unable to directly compare).

I have a TF10 myself, but don't get me wrong I'm open to accepting the idea that the build/SQ may gone down (may explain the price cuts). That said, so far these are all mere speculations until we receive word from Logitech directly or from people who have both versions concurrently to A/B the two.
post #3 of 17
Thread Starter 
Yes, this would be good to know since IF it is the case, I fear people reading all the great things about the old TF10, might should take that into account. I'll just keep my eyes on the threads and see if anyone knows for sure.
post #4 of 17
As long as you look at recent threads, you should be getting impressions from mostly people with the post Amazon version. Anything before November 2009 would be the old version as far as we know.
post #5 of 17
Why don't you try out a pair? I got one from that 99 dollar deal and it is the best IEM i hear to date. Beside, the sound signature from the triple.fi seems to be retain from what people say. Strong bass and good/clear highs. Instead of discrediting the quality because of the cheaper price just try out one and see it yourself.
post #6 of 17
Have both, a 2 year old $300 set and an "Amazon" $99 set. My amazon set has since been custom molded by Fisher, but I spent a few A/B listening sessions before they went off.

The SQ and sound signature is/was identical to my ears. The overall build quality is slightly different. The only difference of real consequence is the cable. Neither cable is what I'd call top notch, but the newer "Amazon" cable is not as nice as the older version. Stiffer, more plasticy, and the 2.5mm jack has been downgraded. None of that has any effect on the sound, but it is a small letdown considering I wasn't enamored with the older cable either. The TF10 is still a worthy (IMO) ~$300ish IEM though so getting it at today's prices isn't bad even with the so-so cable. IMO an Amazon $99 set with an upgrade to westone cable is the IEM deal of the last couple years
post #7 of 17
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by azncoduyen View Post
Why don't you try out a pair? I got one from that 99 dollar deal and it is the best IEM i hear to date. Beside, the sound signature from the triple.fi seems to be retain from what people say. Strong bass and good/clear highs. Instead of discrediting the quality because of the cheaper price just try out one and see it yourself.
You need to re-read my question again, more slowly, if you think I was in any way 'discrediting' the IEM. I only asked about what the difference might be.

I search Amazon and find this:

Amazon.com: Ultimate Ears SuperFi 3 Studio Noise Isolating Earphones (Black): Electronics

I guess this is what you are talking about? I had no idea it existed...such a radical price difference from all the others. THAT I must say, DOES give me pause...but if it's the same as the older version everyone raves about...assuming the change in cable is nothing to change the sound/durability, yes, I'll probably get one.
post #8 of 17
post #9 of 17
@Leavenfish
for reference: the infamous $99 Amazon TripleFi deal
post #10 of 17
Thread Starter 
Ah, so they are no longer available.
Using Mesasone's link, they are back to $243.66
post #11 of 17
The build quality on these was always cack.

I'm aware of one person here who has insisted that Logitech is using cheaper, different innards. But I believe he's also persistently refused to elaborate.
post #12 of 17
I'm not sure if you're referring to me, but I can't elaborate mainly because I have never heard the TF10. I've just been pointing out the possibility to those who haven't been reading up ever since the Amazon deal.
My bet is that Logitech did change the innards and tried to make it as close as possible, and may or may not have totally succeeded. I'm sure they would have made changes to increase their margins from the ways of the UE based on honesty, customer service, and quality. One is a giant, and giants tend to fall under the ways of capitalist America. That's just why it wouldn't surprise me.
post #13 of 17
I had an opportunity to listen to the original TF10s more than 2 years ago. Although I exactly can't remember how it sounded back then, I can vaguely say that the newer TF10s sound the same as the originals.

Hmmm...I wonder if anyone can gut both an original and the "revision" TF10 and compare them side-by-side so that we can get the end of this debate.
post #14 of 17
I'm not sure what politics have to due with IEMs, but you would do well to leave them at the door.
post #15 of 17
well bada bing did say they sounded the same probably one of the few who have both pre logitech and post.
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