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The Agony Of Choice Denon AH-D5000 or AH-D7000

post #1 of 71
4/3/10 at 3:18pm
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Hi guys, well, it's upgrade time for me, but before i do, want to see what you guys think, i'm torn between the Denon AH-D5000 or AH-D7000, having never heard either, will be buying blind, read all the reviews and they sound like the phones i'm looking for, obviously, the D7000 is the better phone, but is it worth the money against the D5000, they will be powered by a Heed canamp, going through a Cambridge Dacmagic, I want these phones for mostly rock, do you guys think these components will be suitable for either of these phones?

thanks in advance.
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post #2 of 71
4/3/10 at 3:32pm
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I want these phones for mostly rock
Don`t get closed phones, specially denons...
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post #3 of 71
4/3/10 at 3:36pm

D7000s

The D7000s are among the best headphones I've ever heard/owned and go really good with rock.

The D5000s are great too, but in the end the bass was a little too bloated and took away from the mids.

I would recommend saving your money and just picking up the D5000s, because if you're like me, down the road you will begin to wonder maybe I should have picked up the D7000s, then you'll end up listing your D5000s for sale (at a loss) to help you finance your new purchase.

If you're not like me, then the D5000s are an excellent choice too.

Good luck!
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post #4 of 71
4/3/10 at 3:41pm
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Originally Posted by Nachkebia View Post
Don`t get closed phones, specially denons...
why...?
in short,I say if you have the extra cash get the D7000 and if not get the D5000. your never heard your gear,but from the reputation they seem to be very good (dacmagic), especially with the denons which need amplification but not the best in the world in order to sound good.
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post #5 of 71
4/3/10 at 3:43pm
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Interesting points of view from both posters so far, totally negative and totally positive lol, thanks anyway guys.
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post #6 of 71
4/3/10 at 3:46pm
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Originally Posted by plonter View Post
why...?
in short,I say if you have the extra cash get the D7000 and if not get the D5000. your never heard your gear,but from the reputation they seem to be very good (dacmagic), especially with the denons which need amplification but not the best in the world in order to sound good.
Well am luckily in a position at the moment to be able to afford both, thanks for your thoughts though.
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post #7 of 71
4/3/10 at 3:52pm
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Originally Posted by Mannymax View Post
Well am luckily in a position at the moment to be able to afford both, thanks for your thoughts though.
so definitely get the D7000, more polished D5000.
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post #8 of 71
4/3/10 at 3:55pm
Do you have to have a closed headphone or are you considering open designs as well?

I would also throw the Grado RS-1 and Ultrasone Pro 900 in to the mix. I ordered the D7000s new and sold them within two weeks. I wasn't impressed with the Denon sound in the slightest. Exaggerated midbass, recessed midrange(the big killer) and odd fake sounding highs. I was really bummed especially considering how damn good they look. I wanted to like them but I just couldn't. I know I'm in the minority on this, as it seems many really like the Denon sound. Just glad I bought them when they first hit the market and was able to resell them at no loss. If you can get them from J&R for ~$600 then go for it. Give them a shot and see if they work for you. They aren't worth anywhere close to their $1000 MSRP though. Just my opinion.
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post #9 of 71
4/3/10 at 4:06pm
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Well, some very mixed reviews here, beginning to get confused again, hopefully will be able to write a review on my choice in the end.
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post #10 of 71
4/3/10 at 4:25pm
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Originally Posted by Nachkebia View Post
Don`t get closed phones, specially denons...
Ok? D7000s are some of the best rock cans out there. The D5000s/D2000s aren't fantastic for rock due to the overpowering bass, but they're way better than any other closed can I've heard for it, and better than a lot of open ones as well (HD650s, K701s, etc.) for rock.

As for the OPs question, the D7000s aren't leaps and bounds ahead of the D5000s overall, but they are quite a bit better, and are definitely a lot better for rock music. The markl mod also works wonders for the cans, and you could get an MD7000 from Lawton Audio for cheaper than the MSRP of a D7000.

I would definitely spend the extra money for a D7000 if you have a decent setup to complement it though, after auditioning both the cans in question side by side.
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post #11 of 71
4/3/10 at 6:08pm
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Originally Posted by Nachkebia View Post
Don`t get closed phones, specially denons...
If you say something like that please back it up with at least some sort of statement/opinion on why you feel that way.

Anyways OP go for the D7000 or else you'll always wonder what it would've been like to get the D7000. At least that's what my reasoning was for upgrading from the D2000's. It's a pain when you have that itch of upgrading to the higher tier headphone but you won't have to deal with that if you get the D7000's.

The extra $500 spent to upgrade my D2000's alone was worth it to get rid of that feeling. Lol unfortunately now that feeling has been replaced with trying to figure out if I should pay an extra $400 for a jena labs recable.

Sometimes it just seems like this will never end..
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post #12 of 71
4/3/10 at 6:10pm
Just chiming in again to agree with what other said about always having the itch to get the D7000s afterwards. That's what happened to me, I got the D5000s and at first they were great, but as I listened I realized that the bass was just too much for me, so I upgraded.
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post #13 of 71
4/3/10 at 6:10pm
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Originally Posted by Mannymax View Post
Well, some very mixed reviews here, beginning to get confused again, hopefully will be able to write a review on my choice in the end.
is rock the only genre you pretty much listen to? what kind of rock do you listen to specifically?
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post #14 of 71
4/3/10 at 6:28pm
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Just chiming in again to agree with what other said about always having the itch to get the D7000s afterwards. That's what happened to me, I got the D5000s and at first they were great, but as I listened I realized that the bass was just too much for me, so I upgraded.
Mainly this. I never heard the D5000s but I was in the same dilemma. And I just went for broke and got the best thing possible so that upgradtitus and curiosity wont strike.

Haven't regretted it since.

And for rock music, what kind of rock? But for stuff like the rolling stones these cans do them pretty great. Slightly airy for my taste (weird cause these are closed cans) but still very good nonetheless.
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post #15 of 71
4/3/10 at 7:06pm
I'll ask again what people have asked before- do you really need closed headphones? I have D5000, and tho they're my favorite closed headphone, I honestly prefer my open Grado SR225s in most areas, and certainly for rock. And they cost me almost exactly 1/3 the price. And my Grado HF-1 absolutely kill my D5000 in rock, and most other areas except for classical, and those cost 100$ less. Don't get carried away by the hype surrounding these headphones. As good as they are, you can do a lot better for the price. Again, unless you absolutely need closed headphones. And even there they're not so great- I cannot use them in a quiet room with my wife nearby - which was their intended use- because they leak sound so badly.
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