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Either a P51 Mustang or Stepdance.

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Originally Posted by Superfrag View Post

I don't think the new iPad will have a higher resolution. Doubling the resolution would require much more powerful components, the new SoC won't live up to that. Maybe in the third iteration, when the components will get even more powerful, but not this year. 2048*1536 is massive, even desktop monitors that run at that resolution(that too big screens like 27" & 30") have powerful components in them.


Displaying at high resolution doesn't require much GPU power or framebuffer memory (~ 16 MB). Even the ancient VooDoo 3 (circa 1991) and GeForce 2 MX (circa 2000) were able to display at 2048x1536 (QXGA), and those GPUs are throughly outclassed by the SGX535 featured in the A4. The primary limitation for resolutions in this range has to do with GPU to display interface speeds. QXGA@60Hz requires about 7.7Gbps of bandwidth, which is kinda tough for a single link LVDS bus. Even the Tegra 2, about as high performance of a mobile SoC as you're going to find, is limited to 1680x1050 over LVDS. Course, Apple designs their own SoCs, so they're not dependent on off the shelf units. Switch from an LVDS bus to a DisplayPort one, a transition already scheduled for 2013, and the bandwidth issues disappear.

 

As far as 3D rendering power goes, no reason Apple can't go the Xbox360/PS3 route and render at sub display resolutions then scale to fill the framebuffer. If it's good enough for the core gamers on those systems, it'll be good enough for the casual gamers on the iPad.

 

Still don't think that Apple will do a resolution upgrade due to component cost, but there's no technical reason they couldn't.

post #618 of 623
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Originally Posted by Superfrag View Post

I don't think the new iPad will have a higher resolution. Doubling the resolution would require much more powerful components, the new SoC won't live up to that. Maybe in the third iteration, when the components will get even more powerful, but not this year. 2048*1536 is massive, even desktop monitors that run at that resolution(that too big screens like 27" & 30") have powerful components in them.


Displaying at high resolution doesn't require much GPU power or framebuffer memory (~ 16 MB). Even the ancient VooDoo 3 (circa 1991) and GeForce 2 MX (circa 2000) were able to display at 2048x1536 (QXGA), and those GPUs are throughly outclassed by the SGX535 featured in the A4. The primary limitation for resolutions in this range has to do with GPU to display interface speeds. QXGA@60Hz requires about 7.7Gbps of bandwidth, which is kinda tough for a single link LVDS bus. Even the Tegra 2, about as high performance of a mobile SoC as you're going to find, is limited to 1680x1050 over LVDS. Course, Apple designs their own SoCs, so they're not dependent on off the shelf units. Switch from an LVDS bus to a DisplayPort one, a transition already scheduled for 2013, and the bandwidth issues disappear.

 

As far as 3D rendering power goes, no reason Apple can't go the Xbox360/PS3 route and render at sub display resolutions then scale to fill the framebuffer. If it's good enough for the core gamers on those systems, it'll be good enough for the casual gamers on the iPad.

 

Still don't think that Apple will do a resolution upgrade due to component cost, but there's no technical reason they couldn't.

 

Hmm.. makes a LOT of sense. It didn't occur to me that for games and GPU intensive tasks, the app can run at a lower resolution.

 

Then, I feel we will see the increased resolution in the 3rd iteration of the iPad.
 

post #619 of 623
I'm divided about the iPad2's resolution. On one hand, Apple could get away with the standard resolution and sell a bunch of them. On the other, a "wow" feature like this could drive sales. It would also let them keep the iPad1 around for another year at a lower price point (say, $300-$350) that would eviscerate sales of Android tablets. Paying $600-$700 for a competitor would be tough if you could get an iPad for $300. They'd make up some margin with app sales, too. They might just do it.

I'd love to see higher rez - the iPhone4 is a joy to look at. I was seriously thinking about an Android phone, but this screen is about the best thing ever. It makes my other displays seem so... 20th century.

Whether I buy the iPad2 depends on the screen. Up the resolution and I'll buy. Otherwise, I'll wait. I'd like to upgrade, though, and pass along the iPad1 to the parents. Still, if they keep a cheaper iPad1 in production, I'll get them one.

I'm also holding off buying a new MacBook (the new Air line is seriously tempting) until they jump the resolution. They will sooner or later.
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Originally Posted by Uncle Erik View Post

I'm divided about the iPad2's resolution. On one hand, Apple could get away with the standard resolution and sell a bunch of them. On the other, a "wow" feature like this could drive sales. It would also let them keep the iPad1 around for another year at a lower price point (say, $300-$350) that would eviscerate sales of Android tablets. Paying $600-$700 for a competitor would be tough if you could get an iPad for $300. They'd make up some margin with app sales, too. They might just do it.

I'd love to see higher rez - the iPhone4 is a joy to look at. I was seriously thinking about an Android phone, but this screen is about the best thing ever. It makes my other displays seem so... 20th century.

Whether I buy the iPad2 depends on the screen. Up the resolution and I'll buy. Otherwise, I'll wait. I'd like to upgrade, though, and pass along the iPad1 to the parents. Still, if they keep a cheaper iPad1 in production, I'll get them one.

I'm also holding off buying a new MacBook (the new Air line is seriously tempting) until they jump the resolution. They will sooner or later.

 

If you're extremely happy with the iPhone 4, no point in getting an Android phone. I would rather wait for 3.0 to make its way to the phones. However, the new Honeycomb based tablets look very, very nice. The tablet based UI that Google has created looks great. Plus their resolution is around 1280*800, which isn't bad for a 10" screen at all.

 

If the iPad 2 does come with double the resolution, then yes, Android tablets will have a hard time selling. Main selling point for the Android tablets will the the LTE/4G support(Xoom on VZW LTE!)
 

post #621 of 623
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Originally Posted by Skylab View Post

Right, no camera connector needed.There are a lot of these all-digital connection devices coming out - the Wadia is far from the only one now. There is a nice looking home one from Cambridge Audio I have pre-ordered. Heck, even my CAR (Volvo XC60) can take the digital out from an iPod.


Phooey, my new Outback can't do that.

 

 

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Originally Posted by Skylab View Post

I got the HRT iStreamer, and it works terrifically, and most importantly, sounds GREAT.  I am very impressed.  No Camera Connector needed, and charges the iPad while serving as the DAC.  Only 48kHz max, but since that is all the iPad currently supports, not a big deal.  VERY cool product, and for $199, a no brainer for me.


OK, I'm practically talked into it.....  will the music keep playing if you put it to sleep to turn off the screen?

post #622 of 623
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Originally Posted by upstateguy View Post




Phooey, my new Outback can't do that.

 

 


OK, I'm practically talked into it.....  will the music keep playing if you put it to sleep to turn off the screen?



 



It should. It does when I use my Pico dac/amp.
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Originally Posted by upstateguy View Post



OK, I'm practically talked into it.....  will the music keep playing if you put it to sleep to turn off the screen?



Yes, absolutely.  I love looking at album art, though biggrin.gif

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