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Originally Posted by MiG™ View Post
If these weren't well over £200 to import i'd give them a go, for that money your competing with the best universals, triple fi, shure 530 etc.

Are they at that level?
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No offense but I think most of us are past the 530's and TF10's at this point. So no they are not at that level. The MD's, Ortos and 700's are on another level.
@Anaxilus I think this is a bit overstatet. I haven't heard the TF10, but the SE530 are still top tier IEMs. IMO it's just that dynamic drivers have been catching up a lot of ground lately. Not so long ago there were no top DD IEMs that I know of. Then came the IE8. Now we have quite a few that are at eye level with the best BA based universal IEMs. The FX700 are certainly one of them.
post #62 of 1763
Fair enough James. I think people that have read my other posts of late realize I like the 530's about as much as Lelek likes the Ortos. Just me I guess.
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How are the strings with the FX700s @ James?
post #64 of 1763
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Originally Posted by lelek45 View Post
Thaaanks James! I'm pretty sold. Just need to find a place where to get it from.
You're welcome! I'm very pleased with Pricejapan for imports, they're responsive and fast, plus they're willing to help with customs if you're willing to take the risk of underinsurance.

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They have 2 big issues for me:

1. Their midrange hurts my ears. Very aggressive sound in general. Cannot listen Jazz, need to put them out after several minutes.

2. Besides their obvious frequency response problems, they don't bring anything good to me. Not very resolving (after IE8), but aggressive (bad combination). In the same time boring, I would use word soulless, if you let me. Without upper treble (again after IE8), but too much lower treble, as all armatures(seems to be a resonance there). No soundstage, ...I can continue, but frankly I don't understand what people like about them. IE8 is totally another league for me. E-Q7 are very similar to UM3X which I sold.
This sounds very, very odd to me (not very resolving, no soundstage,...). If there were e-Q7 fakes out there, I'd bet everything that you've got one. You surely don't have fit problems? Are you using stock tips? I'm stumped by your impressions, they are completely different from mine.

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To my shame I didn't even hear about them, thanks for pointing out, I will check and report.
Maybe you could even meet up with Thomas (the seller) and try them.
post #65 of 1763
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How are the strings with the FX700s @ James?
Hi Eric buddy, believe me your wallet don't want to know.
post #66 of 1763
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Hi Eric buddy, believe me your wallet don't want to know.
LOL @ James. Well thanks for sparing me. Because as Chris said of your description comparing these to the IE8, it seems the Miles Davis and FX700 may have something in common.

Ortos are still my favorite (as I keep saying), but I enjoy the strings on the MDs better, and they blow the Ortos away from that standpoint. Didn't think that was possible... Thanks for sparing me James lol...
post #67 of 1763
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This sounds very, very odd to me (not very resolving, no soundstage,...). If there were e-Q7 fakes out there, I'd bet everything that you've got one.
Doesn't look like. Got it from PriceJapan.

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You surely don't have fit problems?
No, but if so, I will never get fit it right, and I have tried a lot, and I have experience with etymotics

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Are you using stock tips?
I don't hear much difference with different tips. Slight variations of bass quantity, but this doesn't solve my problems. Double flanges from IE8 were slightly better then stock tips.

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I'm stumped by your impressions, they are completely different from mine.
Thats fine, i'm used to it Stax kills them all anyway
post #68 of 1763
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Originally Posted by lelek45 View Post



They have 2 big issues for me:

1. Their midrange hurts my ears. Very aggressive sound in general. Cannot listen Jazz, need to put them out after several minutes.

2. Besides their obvious frequency response problems, they don't bring anything good to me. Not very resolving (after IE8), but aggressive (bad combination). In the same time boring, I would use word soulless, if you let me. Without upper treble (again after IE8), but too much lower treble, as all armatures(seems to be a resonance there). No soundstage, ...I can continue, but frankly I don't understand what people like about them. IE8 is totally another league for me. E-Q7 are very similar to UM3X which I sold.





Thanks again!
Im very puzzled by this, the ortos dont come across as agressive in the midrange,and have plenty of soundstage, the ortos offer a clear and precise window into the music not matched by eny other iem i have heard and they have a soft yet very detailed and sparkly treble.You say they sound "Boring and souless" makes me wonder if we are talking about the same iem?
post #69 of 1763
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"Boring and souless" makes me wonder if we are talking about the same iem?
Well I can understand the "boring" part, though I don't share the opinion. Neutral and relaxed sounding phones like the e-Q7 can be considered this way.

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Thats fine, i'm used to it Stax kills them all anyway
Ok, that's fine with me too. I only hope my description of the FX500 will not mislead you. I always feel I'm on shaky ground passing impressions to someone who hears the same IEMs completely different.
post #70 of 1763
^^^^^^ I'm even more puzzled with the aggressive midrange remarks. Even more so by the tips not making a big difference, which has been a huge factor for me. I am with lucozade "are we hearing the same iem's" Add in that for all the transparency the orto's bring, they are at least to some degree "forgiving" Oh well.....not all ears hear the same.
post #71 of 1763
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Originally Posted by midoo1990 View Post
Thanks for great impressions James.
I don't see myself getting them mainly because I use my ie8 all the time when i am out and in university,and I don't use any iem at home,I use my hd650 solely.

When will you go full size headphones and setups?
I completely understand that, between the fx500 and IE8 there's little space left for the fx700, especially since you already like your fx500 so much.

As for me and full sized phones, most of my listening is done on the move, and the little time left for home listening gets dedicated more and more to A/Bing of IEMs. Bottom line: I wouldn't use full sized phones anyway, though I can't deny that they would interest me.
post #72 of 1763
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Im very puzzled by this, the ortos dont come across as agressive in the midrange,and have plenty of soundstage, the ortos offer a clear and precise window into the music not matched by eny other iem i have heard and they have a soft yet very detailed and sparkly treble.You say they sound "Boring and souless" makes me wonder if we are talking about the same iem?
I guess the problem lays in different reference points. I mostly use Stax and IE8, both are extremely smooth, liquid, non aggressive, silky, etc. People who listen mostly to armatures, got used to aggressive sound.

Also (it is different discussion) but i think armature phones don't reproduce treble correctly (all of them). They tend to be either not very resolving on top, or sibilant, and metallic. I'm very allergic to this. e-Q7 is definitely not worst of armatures, but it just not the step up, as I expected it to be.

Regarding soundstage, I guess, we all have different things in mind. I don't think any closed IEM have any soundstage. Phones that have soundstage (in my definition) are: K701, SR-2020, D2000, SR-001, G1A, OK1 (listed in order of soundstage size). IE8 have best amongst IEMs (and they are semi-open). Phones: RE0, ER4P, E-Q7, HFI-780, UM3X have zero soundstage (in my book), or I could say that they have "imaginary" soundstage, if it explains something.
post #73 of 1763
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I only hope my description of the FX500 will not mislead you. I always feel I'm on shaky ground passing impressions to someone who hears the same IEMs completely different.
This is my part to take in account the difference and it is not easy, but possible.
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Edited by lelek45 - 3/15/11 at 8:28am
post #75 of 1763
james444-
So would you say the treble is definitely smoother and less fatiguing than with the FX500's? I'm just curious because I think you feel differently about it than javajive, who commented initially that the treble presentation was the same as the FX500's for him, with the same hotness.

I'm highly curious about these, but if they do have any of that harshness/sizzle in the upper end, they'd be a no-go for me....


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Dangit, I have a sickness.... I ordered them. I have to hear for myself. If I find them too hot for my liking, I'll simply post them FS.
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