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post #1621 of 1761

Did you try wearing them over ear? I find that to give a better seal and more secure fit. I'm still debating on keeping my pair as well. Kinda wanna minimize my gear and consolidate to higher and better things :).
 

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^^^Thanks!

 

Still enjoying and getting to know these 'phones. They are incredible with classical. I can see why some would prefer these over the EX1000 given the bigger bass, lusher mids, and more forgiving treble. Their presentations are completely different too, though I imagine that's the case with the EX 'phones vs. almost every other IEM.

 

From a usability standpoint, they're very easy to just pop in and out. But in walking around with them I don't find the fit very secure. I think it's because of their weight and shallow fit, they always feel like they're on the precipice of falling out. And I can actually feel them shifting around at times. I have a good seal, using Monster silicons. They do isolate SOME, but not as much as the EX1000. Case in point, when I was at the grocery store with them, I could hear the vocal commands of the automated checkout, which I typically don't hear using other IEMs.

 

Also, I got a static electricity shock from them. They would have become my definite work IEM if not for that. I will give them more time of course but I'm not sure I'll end up keeping them.



 

post #1622 of 1761
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...but I'm not sure I'll end up keeping them.


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I'm still debating on keeping my pair as well. Kinda wanna minimize my gear and consolidate to higher and better things :).

 

x3. 

 

It hurts me to say that too - no joke.  These were once my go-to IEM solely, but the EX1000s are starting to hog-up all of the listening time.  It maybe be consolidation/upgrading time here as well...

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From a usability standpoint, they're very easy to just pop in and out. But in walking around with them I don't find the fit very secure. I think it's because of their weight and shallow fit, they always feel like they're on the precipice of falling out. And I can actually feel them shifting around at times. I have a good seal, using Monster silicons. They do isolate SOME, but not as much as the EX1000.

Comply Ts-500, and you'll get a proper fit with no movement.

Doesn't help isolation though, the FX700s are so open at the back that getting a perfect seal isn't useful...

post #1624 of 1761
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Comply Ts-500, and you'll get a proper fit with no movement.

Doesn't help isolation though, the FX700s are so open at the back that getting a perfect seal isn't useful...

 

Neither is a perfect seal beneficial for their sound signature imo. I wear them with small tips and only loosely sealed, I can even carry a conversation without having too take them out. If you need isolation, they're simply not a good choice in my book.

post #1625 of 1761

I can listen to the IE80  to IE80 in bed without my wife hearing any sounds, I wonder if that would be the same case with FX700.

post #1626 of 1761

No. They leak sound. Well...I don't know at what volume you listen at, how far away your wife is, if the TV is on, etc...LOL

 

But they do leak sound more than most IEMs.

 

Thanks tienbasse. I really don't like Comply tips though so I'll pass.
 

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I can listen to the IE80  to IE80 in bed without my wife hearing any sounds, I wonder if that would be the same case with FX700.



 


Edited by Selenium - 2/15/12 at 10:05pm
post #1627 of 1761

The volume on the Clip is just past the mid point, if that's any help.

post #1628 of 1761

Seriously, you can put the back of them up to your ears and clearly hear your music.

post #1629 of 1761
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Neither is a perfect seal beneficial for their sound signature imo. I wear them with small tips and only loosely sealed, I can even carry a conversation without having too take them out. If you need isolation, they're simply not a good choice in my book.


The good part with foam is that it doesn't produce this "hermetic" seal that you would get with silicon, air can still pass through (no pressure difference) so FX700s still sound their best with short foams, and sit tighter in the ears.

 

post #1630 of 1761

I don't really get that experience though with the FX700s. The TF10s give me that feeling though. I think since the FX700s are open as is it may be a contributing factor.

post #1631 of 1761
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I don't really get that experience though with the FX700s. The TF10s give me that feeling though. I think since the FX700s are open as is it may be a contributing factor.


X2, I don't think there's much of a pressure difference with open phones anyway. Plus, I don't think much air can pass through foamies, they're just elastic and able to compensate a bit of pressure. Just tried to block my Comply's tube and blow through the foam - nada.

 

But I have to admit that I'm fortunate with regards to the FX700, as their housings fit snugly inside my pinna. Wearing them over-ear, I wouldn't even need tips at all to achieve a secure fit.

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X2, I don't think there's much of a pressure difference with open phones anyway. Plus, I don't think much air can pass through foamies, they're just elastic and able to compensate a bit of pressure. Just tried to block my Comply's tube and blow through the foam - nada.

 

But I have to admit that I'm fortunate with regards to the FX700, as their housings fit snugly inside my pinna. Wearing them over-ear, I wouldn't even need tips at all to achieve a secure fit.



James I'm curious if this is just me or not. When listening to your FX700s does the sound staging/imaging seem to be slightly more focused on the left side? Especially with bass and vocal presentation. This has really been pissing me off and I don't like it at all.

post #1633 of 1761
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Nope, not at all, I'm afraid. I've been using them for the last 3 days and definitely would have noticed. Did you try switching sides?

post #1634 of 1761
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Nope, not at all, I'm afraid. I've been using them for the last 3 days and definitely would have noticed. Did you try switching sides?



I did try switching sides but it doesn't really make a difference. I mean both sides seem to to be working fine but I just notice how the presentation is set more towards the left side and less in the center if you know what I mean.

post #1635 of 1761
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But shouldn't the presentation focus more on the right side after the switch, if the phones were the culprit? Or am I getting you all wrong?

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