Some of the myths associated with K701/2 - Page 11

Sure, they all share the same bump, but the K702's is bigger.  It's almost 20dB.

I EQ all my headphones so that they are flat when they reach the inner ear, even the LCD-2.

Hmm, seems like a strange choice, but to each their own! I obviously missed part of this conversation - my fault for not reading the thread carefully.

Sorry, but the corrected version seems to have a pumping and breathing effect it.
I don't say this to sound negative, but to my ears it just sounds wrong. Is this some type of dynamically controlled EQ?
I listened a few times and prefer the source. I also listened to the Sym 4 , and preferred the source version.
I don't mean to discourage your efforts!
Edit: Maybe I should mention that I use the Q701 version.
Edited by Chris J - 9/15/11 at 6:19pm

Yeah.  I need to fix that.

Is so good that it all turned out not true when I listened to my k702. 

Yes - you have right

 

I own a K701, after more than 200 hours - I test and compare them with K702 (past year) and now with Q701 too

 

After about 20 hours, better 50 hours, I could not say there are significant differences.

 

I drive my headphones on a modified GSP green Solo. Past year I compared my system with a Grace m902 - Solo sounds a bit warmer as m902

 

My 2 cents worth about the dent in the skull effect:
My Q701s are ultra comfortable compared to a few other leading brands I have tried.....especailly HD650s........ouch!


BTW......is Austria in China?

Check on the box, I think is still made in Austria.

i don't think its on the bright side, its definitely more treble focused than the senns are but grado and beyers are much brighter still.

 

i don't think it needs much burn-in, 70 hours and it already sounds 10 times better, i have yet to find out how much after 300.

 

power hungry, not really... an ipod could drive them decently loud, it didn't sound too good, but it worked.

 

bass-lacking...not with an amp. i think the bass is perfect on these, almost as much as the hd 650s bass on some songs. sure the bass is kinda thin but it greatly improves when amped, unless you're using a portable amp with these, the bass shouldn't be a problem. perhaps that's why this theory came to be, from using with ipods/portable amps, or people just being bassheads and buying the wrong cans.

 

plasticky sounding...umm sometimes depends on the music

 

cheap cables - it seems durable enough but it did feel kinda cheap, however, doesn't necessarily mean its cheap.

 

NOT made in china, it says made in austria silly!

 

i'm using WA6SE with these and they just really come to life. really dynamic open and well amazing :)

 

i'm not poor.

 

a 10,000$ system would make it sound better, but its not always needed :P

 

they are very comfy cans, more so than my hd 650s or grados.

 

 

 

That's just my idea of a really bad joke!  LOL!

 

 

BTW Dubstep, can you tell us more about your WA6SE and the Ks?

Edited by Chris J - 10/9/11 at 5:20pm

yeah, I enjoy the K701s coming out of the WA6SE compared to the sound i get coming out of other amps i've tried. it improves the soundstage, dynamics, and musicality of the k701. its like it just brings the headphones to a whole new level; like they actually dispel most of the myths associated with the k701. the bass is tight and present, relaxed yes, but noticeable finally. the highs become very smooth and the midrange kinda stays the same.

 

there kinda seems to be a shift from clinical and analytically sounding to a more natural but still quite neutral sound.

 

 

detail kinda says the same, everything sounds slightly warmer and more natural than before, that artificial and plasticky sound people talk about is gone

Edited by Dubstep Girl - 10/9/11 at 8:33pm

hi pelpix, i thought it worth cross posting in here about your http://www.pelpix.info/GlissEQ_k702rev5.zip from the k701 appreciation thread; I agree with notjeffbuckley and that it's quite a compelling natural sound once accustomed to it. thankyouthankyou.

 

If you could delve into some of the specifics as to how you came to that EQ, I'd love to apply those techniques to some of my lesser headphones to see how they fair up as I've never been successful eq'ing myself.

 

 

Would you do something like a sine sweep with a headrig(measuring at where the eardrum would be? diy?, what other type of tools are you using?) at a fixed db, and then eq such that all frequencies are at the same db?

As I understand it, for a given node in glisseq, as the dynamic approaches 0, the closer it is to the static inputted values (less range). How then do you determine what values to use for the dynamic value? (224hz@50.3dyn, 2khz@160dyn etc...given that 100 is the default. also it seems you can also set the seemingly global modifying dynamic to relaxed,static,normal but that seems more to one's taste.)

 

I've only started getting into this recently so I'm not sure if I even quite what the dynamic feature is really doing in this vst. I'm assuming it takes volume, frequency and then change the db by a % of dyn?

Edited by applepancakes - 10/28/11 at 12:35am