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Originally Posted by Acix 
Dude, he just did. And this has nothing to do with 70X. And experience doesn't have to be about how long someone has been on Head-Fi. I started working in the studio when I was 14 on my summer vacations. This was almost 30 years ago. Now fast forward to today, I'm a mastering engineer and recording artist. The collaborations with my colleagues and clients, some with 40-50 years of experience, go so much more smoothly than many of these discussions with the Head-Fi members. I'll never hear them saying "Everybody hears differently." With them it's much more simple. I think the reason for this is that either they have experience which unites us and we're on the same page, or they don't have that experience, which is fine too. What happens in that case is that we just move on as a team to accomplish the goal. Now look to this thread and you'll see speculation, opinion and hearsay come in and this is how the conversation disintegrates and falls apart. People who read this thread are not going to get anything useful out of it.
I do my best to stay professional, stay away from the personal attacks and only speak about my own experiences, but when someone decides to make it personal with me, I may choose to respond.
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Nah, what he did was quite tactful. Moving on...
What exactly do you expect out of a forum? I think you're trying to reconcile professional audio with personal audio, and in my opinion that's a mistake. Head-Fi isn't a team trying to accomplish a goal, setting aside its differences for the sake of a common project. It's a mixed group of people of varied levels of experience and interests. Not many people are trying to master a track here, and you really can't apply what may be loose truths for the mastering engineers you've worked with to people searching for their own personal sound. Even if we go under the assumption that people don't hear differently, people certainly perceive, think, and opine differently. Let's take a look at an opinion right here:
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Originally Posted by Acix 
10K is absurd! You can get a very good new amp for around $500 and up. Some sound cards under $500 will do the trick too, the Apogee Duet is one example. The next one up would be the Mini DAC, which would be fully balanced.
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I'm going to assume that you don't think your opinion caused the thread to fall apart. Or maybe you regard your statement as a series of facts? I've seen your discussions of fact vs. opinion, and you don't seem very consistent. A belief drawn from experience--even professional--is an opinion. It may be a working fact in your line of work, but that doesn't translate to a fact here. To be honest, I really haven't seen many facts from you.
Regardless, as far as I can tell, people don't frequent Head-Fi for other people's facts--where exactly are the facts in "What are the best headphones under $100 for rock?" This very thread was started to garner people's experiential opinions, so to say opinion ruined it is a little absurd. If you seriously have a problem with other people expressing their opinions, I'm not sure what you're doing here. This isn't a mastering engineers' website, with agreed-upon facts laid out; it's a forum, where everyone tells everyone what they think. If you love audio facts so much, there's a place for that. It's called hydrogenaudio. This isn't meant as a slight against you, but I'm far more interested in the opinions of people with a ton of personal audio experience than in the facts (or opinions) of an audio professional with less. I consider points of reference extremely meaningful--the more the better.
Now, to say that speculation ruined the thread is fair. I'll accept complete responsibility for that. My bad. However, I don't agree that the thread didn't elicit something of value. It was an interesting topic. Edit: I should also point out that you were quite content with my speculation when it pointed toward something you thought to be true.
In any event, I'm not here to attack you personally, and I'd be lying if I said you didn't seem a little persecuted to me--there may come a time when I choose the K701 over the HD800, and then people can roll their eyes at me. I don't know your entire history though, so maybe not. I find people generally pretty reasonable to deal with here, but I think the key is taking care not to limit the experiences of others to the boundaries of your own--even when you're so sure of something you consider it a fact. If you repeatedly buzz in people's ears, they will swat at you.