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post #16 of 25
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how are the etymonics in terms of sq? i dont think they have the 3 driver thing the UE's got going? I checked out the isolation 35-42 dB of sound isolation is some crazy isolation...thats like people screaming next to you and all you can hear is a squeal. very impressive.

also from another thread

"Mercuttio
Headphoneus Supremus

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I love my Etys. I love them because they're revealing and extremely accurate.

These two reasons are the EXACT two reasons that you shouldn't pair them with a raw iPod. The iPod has a nasty harsh etched treble... which is accentuated by the "sparkle" that the Etymotic 4P/S can present. If you plan on using them with your iPod, make SURE that you've got your Bithead inbetween. It's a very nice sounding combo, I've used it for several months.

Why did I get rid of both my iPod and my Bithead though? Well, I think as a truly portable rig that you can just throw in your bag you'll want something a bit more... pocketable. Long story short, the iPod alone with the Etymotic just doesn't sound very good. You're smashing right into the limitations of the player."

taken from http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f4/ety...e-help-208477/
post #17 of 25
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Originally Posted by zantetsuken View Post
how are the etymotics in terms of sq? i dont think they have the 3 driver thing the UE's got going? I checked out the isolation 35-42 dB of sound isolation is some crazy isolation...thats like people screaming next to you and all you can hear is a squeal. very impressive.
Yes it is . The design is a bit "old fashion" now, given they were designed in the mid-90s, but the ER4 are still a good contender. Around here a lot of people are discarding them because of their bass, saying they lack what's needed. The best word to describe ER4 is precision, which means you're not gonna hear anything that is not meant to be heard. For some people that makes them cold and treble emphasized, while their fans are talking about extremely detailed phones. That's your choice to pick, and you should be able to easily find some ER4P or S reviews here.

As for the 3 drivers against one, it doesn't necessarily mean better sound and lately we've been seeing some mono-driver IEM quick some serious asses (Ortofon e-q7 seems to be one of them).

EDIT : I just saw the addition to your previous post. If you're planning to use an Ipod, you could use a LOD to get the best out of it.
post #18 of 25
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Yes it is . The design is a bit "old fashion" now, given they were designed in the mid-90s, but the ER4 are still a good contender. Around here a lot of people are discarding them because of their bass, saying they lack what's needed. The best word to describe ER4 is precision, which means you're not gonna hear anything that is not meant to be heard. For some people that makes them cold and treble emphasized, while their fans are talking about extremely detailed phones. That's your choice to pick, and you should be able to easily find some ER4P or S reviews here.

As for the 3 drivers against one, it doesn't necessarily mean better sound and lately we've been seeing some mono-driver IEM quick some serious asses (Ortofon e-q7 seems to be one of them).

EDIT : I just saw the addition to your previous post. If you're planning to use an Ipod, you could use a LOD to get the best out of it.
Hey sounds good i might look into them more, sorry but im not familiar with an LOD, is that an amp?
post #19 of 25
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Hey sounds good i might look into them more, sorry but im not familiar with an LOD, is that an amp?
LOD means Line Out Dock, it's the best way to bypass the iPod/iPhone earphone jack which is not giving the best quality. I cannot really tell you more though, I'm not a Mac owner . You should find some info quite easily here anyway.
post #20 of 25
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LOD means Line Out Dock, it's the best way to bypass the iPod/iPhone earphone jack which is not giving the best quality. I cannot really tell you more though, I'm not a Mac owner . You should find some info quite easily here anyway.
Actually you're not bypassing anything; people confuse it with a true line out port which it is not. It's more of a glorified headphone out port.
The sound is fuller and a little cleaner but it's not THAT much of a benefit.

But it is worth using if you don't mind spending more money on the ipod (LoD, amp).
post #21 of 25
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Originally Posted by Young Spade View Post
Actually you're not bypassing anything; people confuse it with a true line out port which it is not. It's more of a glorified headphone out port.
The sound is fuller and a little cleaner but it's not THAT much of a benefit.

But it is worth using if you don't mind spending more money on the ipod (LoD, amp).
Thanks for this precision, and you're right I thought it was a line out port .
post #22 of 25
Yea, but don't get me wrong it is a really good signal you're getting. Other DAPs that have a line out port (just for future reference) are the I think... two newest Sony players (LoD from ALO Audio), s:flo2/T51, iRiver has an optical out... and an iMod.

That's just off the top of my head though; there's a thread around here somewhere with all of the current players with a line out if you're still interested.

But I guess to get back on topic a little, you should enjoy that iPod
post #23 of 25
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Yea, but don't get me wrong it is a really good signal you're getting. Other DAPs that have a line out port (just for future reference) are the I think... two newest Sony players (LoD from ALO Audio), s:flo2/T51, iRiver has an optical out... and an iMod.

That's just off the top of my head though; there's a thread around here somewhere with all of the current players with a line out if you're still interested.

But I guess to get back on topic a little, you should enjoy that iPod
i duno personally the headphone jack doesnt seem too bad to me...i think the difference may be too close for me to notice between the lod and the jack..unless its crazy obvious.
post #24 of 25
I never said it was bad And IMO the LoD connection on iPods give you a small boost in SQ, it also depends on how good your amp is as well.

IMO if you're liking the sound you're getting out of the headphone jack, don't spend money on the LoD and amp, instead upgrade your phones
post #25 of 25
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I never said it was bad And IMO the LoD connection on iPods give you a small boost in SQ, it also depends on how good your amp is as well.

IMO if you're liking the sound you're getting out of the headphone jack, don't spend money on the LoD and amp, instead upgrade your phones
is there anything that doesnt need an amp that i can also use with my computer and stuff?...like the D2000's or something? Im now thinking full sized phones would'nt be too bad if im going for sq and stuff..but im not sure how well each of them drive on an ipod
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