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post #811 of 864

Indeed, I really like the T50P as well.  They are very good imo.  Right now, I'm pretty much happy with what I have.

post #812 of 864
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Originally Posted by Twinster View Post

Hey MayaTlab, have notice when you removed the ear pad if any screws are visible on the front bezel of the driver?  or maybe it's only snap in together like the DTxxx models. Just curious because I'm interested on replacing the cable and make it a bit longer for my needs.

 

Thanks!

 

PS: These headphone (T50P) are very amazing. I tried back my ES7 that was my office headphone for a long time and was happy with the sound until the T50P became my default office can. I was just shock by the lack of music resolution and details and the Bass sounded so flabby compare to the Beyer. I have to say that my ES7 are not stock they have been recable (Grado SR225i cable) and got the Dynamat / felt treament that improved the frequency balanced on the ES7 and sounded very good to me until then.....


I did not notice any screw, but I saw on some Chinese website that somebody did change the cable. So it's definitely possible.

 

I wouldn't go as far as saying that the T50p are as an entire package amazing. I'm literally blown away by some of their caracteristics (out of head soundstage, instrument separation, killer trebles), but much less so by others (boomy lower frequencies, poor damping, big dip in the upper midrange around 3000 hz - 4000 hz, and although it extends lower than the ESW10, it struggles as much to reach those lower notes.)

Overall I still prefer them to the ESW10 (which is basically the polar opposite in terms of sound signature - its upper midrange is exaggerated), but I'm less sure about the T50p vs ES10 (the latter is miles ahead in terms of bass, and everything just feels more "robust". Also, it upper midrange is less pronounced than the ESW10 (does not annoy me as much) and instrument separation slightly better, which puts it in the T50p territory. It also much better at handling dynamics). However the T50p retain one key thing : its isolation is just so much better (from my own tests, it almost reaches HD-25 levels when clamping is improved).

 

BTW I now know what causes the "rattle" on the right driver on the two tracks I talked about. My T50p have nothing to do with it : it simply is that they just can't handle those very low frequencies in these two particular songs (which happen to be the strongest on the right channel) when coupled with average MP3 players (iPhone, Cowon S9, etc.). My ESW10 does the same, but to a much lesser degree (which is the reason why I did not notice it). The solution would be amping. Other than that, the only headphones I tried that passed this test with average players were those with big drivers (M50, ES10, etc.). I tried to make friends listen to it, but either I'm dreaming, or I have good analytical hearing, because they did not seem annoyed as much as I am by this faint rattle. (it got harder to listen as burn in progresses, which I guess is normal).

EDIT : OK, I'm going to amend what I just said as the "abnormal" rattle is back and this time it is obvious. In fact there are with that track three kinds of distortion : one in the track that sunds like a rattle on the right side. It is extremely faint and none of my friends (who use Apple earbuds most of the time) did not notice it with the T50p. Another one is again very faint but added by the poor driving capability of average sources (iPhone, Cowon, etc.). The third one which reappeared this morning is a defect from my own pair of T50p. That one is blatantly obvious.


Edited by MayaTlab - 12/17/10 at 2:29am
post #813 of 864

It's official, I'm now beyerless as my pair was taken back buy the store. I got a reimbursment as they did not have any replacement left.

post #814 of 864

These T50's, exactly how upfront are they? Pretty decent amount of experience with them already here.

I've read quite some pages now about these (not all), but I can't get it clear to me how upfront they are.

 

I've bought ESW9 recently and I really don't like them. I tried, I really tried to like 'em but I can't. I even like my very forward sounding K450's more (not because of bass).

 

Letting the Audio Technica's go, selling them, to directly buy T50's.

post #815 of 864
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Originally Posted by Proglover View Post

These T50's, exactly how upfront are they? Pretty decent amount of experience with them already here.

I've read quite some pages now about these (not all), but I can't get it clear to me how upfront they are.

 

I've bought ESW9 recently and I really don't like them. I tried, I really tried to like 'em but I can't. I even like my very forward sounding K450's more (not because of bass).

 

Letting the Audio Technica's go, selling them, to directly buy T50's.

 

Because they have quite a huge dip in the 3000-4000 hz, the T50p are all but upfront. Their main spikes are in the lower midrange IMHO and around 8000 hz - so they're at their strongest points around the "base" of voices and their harmonics, but not their main range.
 

post #816 of 864

Thanks Maya for your reply

pff, I want to get these for progrock, multilayered kind of stuff, since the ESW9's were definitely no succes. I don't want so much 'body', 'thickness' (sorry, not very used to describing these things yet).

 

Will be a bit of a gamle I guess, but I can always sell them, there are not much really good other options for on the go, IEM not an option also.

post #817 of 864

Can't you try them in store where you live ? 

 

Also note that you can quite dramatically change their sound depending on the clamping force of the headband.

post #818 of 864
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Can't you try them in store where you live ? 

 

No I can't

post #819 of 864
iPad + T50p = biggrin.gif
post #820 of 864
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Originally Posted by rasmushorn View Post

iPad + T50p = biggrin.gif


QFT!  That is my portable rig (although normally with a RSA P-51 Mustang in between them).  Good stuff!

post #821 of 864
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QFT!  That is my portable rig (although normally with a RSA P-51 Mustang in between them).  Good stuff!





I was very close to edit my post and add: "...and sometimes a Mustang P-51 in between!" but you beat me there smily_headphones1.gif
post #822 of 864

http://www.aloaudio.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_54&products_id=477

look what i have found :D recabled pair of t50p by alo audio

now i am more interested in this pair of headphones... 


Edited by eroarex - 12/19/10 at 9:04am
post #823 of 864

Got them, the T50p's

 

They fit without any problems (not a big head here, but no problems with positioning)

I like them so much more over the ESW9's, right away out of the box. (great vocals!)

 

The cable is very thin though.

 

Burning them in now...

post #824 of 864
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Originally Posted by Proglover View Post

Got them, the T50p's

 

They fit without any problems (not a big head here, but no problems with positioning)

I like them so much more over the ESW9's, right away out of the box. (great vocals!)

 

The cable is very thin though.

 

Burning them in now...


Given that the T50p are already competitive with the ESW10, it comes as no surprise to me that they can outperform at least in some areas the ESW9.

I'll probably have to wait for a couple weeks to get a new pair as they're out of stock where I live.

post #825 of 864

The sound sig of the Beyers is just way more what I like, than the dissapointing ESW9's I had. Never heard the 10 though. I do miss the 9's lamb skin.pads.

 

If anyone has ideas of where I could get the T50 recabled in Europe, please share..

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