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post #76 of 116
8/18/11 at 1:24am

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Originally Posted by Graphicism View Post

I don't think it's that Sony necessarily stopped innovating, they just focused more on the mass market. Take the Sony V6 for instance, it looks and sounds like a balanced version of the Shure 840 yet it's kicked to the dirt because it's a Sony.

Are you sure? Given I have never tried the SRH840 and I used to like the V6 until I found headphones like the Monitor 10 I would not recommend a V6, only for casual listening. Also the CD900 ST was more to my liking but the CD1700 just trumps it in my opinion. The CD1700 is a very refined headphone and under-appreciated at the same time.  

 

"Because it's a Sony"? Check Pioneer and Philips. Some brands are just popular because the marketing machine behind them is more effective yet a Philips HP1000 sounded - i.m.o. - more 'natural' than a K701 and both needed a lot of power. Pioneer once released the Monitor 10R and I directly compared it with the K701 - twice - and for some reason the AKG just sounded 'veiled'. The low end was unacceptable on the AKG. Guess which headphone sold in bigger numbers?
 

The Sony brand name still commands some respect given the reputation of the flagship headphones like the R10 and CD3000. 

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post #77 of 116
8/18/11 at 10:25am
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The Sony brand name still commands some respect given the reputation of the flagship headphones like the R10 and CD3000. 

 

Yeah I echo a lot of what you're saying, with the likes of the R10, CD3000 and you can't forget the Qualia 010 Sony have put out some wonderful flagship headphones. I'm referring however to the consumer headphones, the affordable (Under $300) models like the monitoring headphones and the Sony SA series, speaking of which the HD800 sounds like a slightly better SA5000; fast, transparent, hyper detailed yet it get's little respect these days, go back several years through head-fi history and it was once a much loved and recommended phone.
 
I have a Sony CD770 which I picked up for about $20 on ebay, detailed, warm, reminds me a little of the Denon D2000 with good soundstage for a closed phone, yet the majority of people won't give such older phones a second thought.
 
Because of the learning curve, or perhaps I should say listening curve here at head-fi people definitely shop in trends; a few good reviews and the headphone is FOTM for the next few months, or longer as it seems recently.
 
But back to Sony's monitoring headphones, the V6 is a steal for $65, 7509HD for $190 is terrific for a closed, neutral headphone. Sony SA3000 for $160 or the leather option SA5000 for $350... all of which don't get the hype they deserve and I think that's because sony has a poor reputation as an audio front runner.
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post #78 of 116
8/18/11 at 4:28pm

The reason I did not buy a HD800 was because of my K240 DF, 10R and Monitor 10. Later I bought a CD1700 and given how refined the CD1700 already was I was sure the HD800 was terribly overpriced and overrated. 

 

With a bit of EQ and maybe modification the V6 can become even more accomplished. Sony knows how to make 'impressive' headphones...

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post #79 of 116
8/21/11 at 2:22am

 

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[...] the HD800 sounds like a slightly better SA5000; fast, transparent, hyper detailed yet it get's little respect these days, go back several years through head-fi history and it was once a much loved and recommended phone.

 
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I used the SA-5000 for quite a long time.

 

If you think it compares to the HD800, please make a review thread comparing them, and then it'll get some more respect, that's how it works around here.


 

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post #80 of 116
8/21/11 at 10:58am
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I used the SA-5000 for quite a long time.

 

If you think it compares to the HD800, please make a review thread comparing them, and then it'll get some more respect, that's how it works around here.


There are already quite a few threads comparing both phones as past Sony SA5000 listeners are now likely HD800 owners. The HD800 is better, albeit brighter than the already bright SA5000 but with slightly better extension and tone. What I'm saying is for a great phone like the SA5000/3000 you rarely see it recommended today, despite it holding it's own next to phones costing 4x as much.

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post #81 of 116
8/23/11 at 11:45am
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Hmm, I looked in the manual and it does show it as removable but I've never done it. I tried removing it just now and it seems to be on pretty firmly so I didn't want too break it, not sure about it.

 

Yeah they definitely benefit from tubes. I don't think my high-gain Darkvoice is the perfect match so I may try something else specifically for them in the near future.



A photo of the MDR-Z7 disassembled. Headband should be detachable.

 

Sony DR-Z7-1.jpg

 

 

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post #82 of 116
10/31/11 at 3:45pm
hmph a pair went on fleabay in sept for < $150...with a box, etc.
Edited by svyr - 10/31/11 at 3:51pm
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post #83 of 116
11/1/11 at 4:10pm
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Originally Posted by svyr View Post

hmph a pair went on fleabay in sept for < $150...with a box, etc.


Hope someone here picked them up..

 

I have Google Alerts setup to notify me of any DRZ chat and they slipped by undetected, there is a pair of DRZ-7 for sale in our forum though.

 

I'd like to see more member impressions here.

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post #84 of 116
11/1/11 at 5:32pm
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Hope someone here picked them up..

I have Google Alerts setup to notify me of any DRZ chat and they slipped by undetected, there is a pair of DRZ-7 for sale in our forum though.

I'd like to see more member impressions here.

yea $250 isn't a lot and I was going to buy it for the laughs...but then I saw the previous owner saying they're too heavy frown.gif
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post #85 of 116
11/1/11 at 6:52pm
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yea $250 isn't a lot and I was going to buy it for the laughs...but then I saw the previous owner saying they're too heavy frown.gif

 


They're heavy for their small size at 340g but that's about the same as a T1, I don't feel their weight at all once positioned correctly.
 
Don't let that put you off; if you like live recordings I would consider these to be the very best I've heard.
 
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post #86 of 116
11/1/11 at 9:00pm
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They're heavy for their small size at 340g but that's about the same as a T1, I don't feel their weight at all once positioned correctly.
 
Don't let that put you off; if you like live recordings I would consider these to be the very best I've heard.
 

classical (piano + violin solo or + orchestra) or metal.
how's the lower end on these and isolation? and mids/highs/lower end balance?

um are these closed or open lol, and what impedance/sensitivity (how hard to drive?.... not that I've ever seen a sony can that was hard to drive biggrin.gif ) (I should just read the review biggrin.gif )
Edited by svyr - 11/1/11 at 9:03pm
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post #87 of 116
11/1/11 at 9:19pm
lol, someone was quicker than me for the D7. oh well. there goes a chance to try this. Probs for the best. last time I bought Monitor 10, 10R, and DT48, DT48e and K340 on claims that they're all omgbbq amazing. They were all curious experiments but um, not something I'd keep for music :\

the D6/D7 manual posted a few pages back shows the FR chart for both btw.

relatively more <300hz vs 1-3khz difference (more prominent bass on DR7),
No dip at 3-5khz on DR7 (idk if it makes that much of a difference)

relatively higher 7-8k treble peak on DR7, no 16k trough on DR7.

hmph. I would've probably liked it quite a bit since the FR is similar to my customs tuning.
Edited by svyr - 11/1/11 at 9:33pm
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post #88 of 116
11/2/11 at 5:19am
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lol, someone was quicker than me for the D7. oh well. there goes a chance to try this. Probs for the best. last time I bought Monitor 10, 10R, and DT48, DT48e and K340 on claims that they're all omgbbq amazing. They were all curious experiments but um, not something I'd keep for music :\


FWIW, I've had the DT48E, Monitor 10, K340, and the DR-Z6 is the only one that gets much head time, and most are sold.

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post #89 of 116
11/2/11 at 5:44am
fair nuff. You're sooo not making it better wink.gif
eh, I guess.. Idk, they're supra-aural anyway, and I want around-the-ear, not on anyway.
Plus I have a pair of T50RP (Smeggy) on the way. I'm hoping that'd make this redundant (but um, judging by the FR, it won't)
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post #90 of 116
11/17/11 at 11:33am
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Does anyone own a Joseph Grado HP-1?

 

I had a friend listen to my DR-Z6 this week and he was adamant that they sounded a lot like Joseph Grado HP-1s, which sounds like quite a complement. I haven't heard the HP-1 myself and basing an opinion on sonic-memory is never very accurate, but perhaps they do share some musical Similarities.

 

When I first heard the Z's I considered them to be a hyper-detail version of the Sony SA's, no doubt because of their forward treble. I know Grados are known for their aggressive treble and they do remind me somewhat of an RS1 but with better instrument separation; the crowded sound of the Grados was their downfall in my opinion... do the HP-1s improve on this?

 

It's a long shot to see if anyone has both, but you never know, they're slowly growing in popularity. smile.gif

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