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post #3316 of 3714
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Originally Posted by jlesnick View Post

Also, does anybody have a good recommendation for a cable.  My JH16 w/freqphase is paired with the predator.  I wouldn't be opposed to a cable that could smooth out the harsh treble.

 

So are the JH16 still harsh? Has the FP not smoothed out the brightness or sibilants ?

post #3317 of 3714

They are not harsh or sibilant....I had them in for 6 hours today and it was wonderful.

post #3318 of 3714
W4r cable if u want less treble, it also makes the vocal better, sacrificing a bit clarity though.
But still, vocals on jh16 is pretty awful, no where near the 1+2 or 334, not even close.
post #3319 of 3714

Interesting. Vocals etc. on my JH13 FPs were better than the 1+2.  That said, I think other than focus, the 13 changed more than the 16 with the FP update.

post #3320 of 3714

Was looking through new posts and this one caught my eye..

Think about it this thread is started 3yrs ago and still going strong "JH Audio JH16 Pro First Impressions". Maybe better to start an appreciation thread...?

post #3321 of 3714
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Originally Posted by czqdtc View Post

W4r cable if u want less treble, it also makes the vocal better, sacrificing a bit clarity though.
But still, vocals on jh16 is pretty awful, no where near the 1+2 or 334, not even close.

Sorry they do not work well for you. I am very pleased. No issues with clarity and vocals are clean. Considering my other HP's are pretty good, I am used to good sound.

post #3322 of 3714
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Originally Posted by hoppenma View Post

Was looking through new posts and this one caught my eye..

Think about it this thread is started 3yrs ago and still going strong "JH Audio JH16 Pro First Impressions". Maybe better to start an appreciation thread...?

The JH16 Pro Appreciation Thread is up!

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/656933/the-jh16-pro-appreciation-thread

post #3323 of 3714
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Originally Posted by longbowbbs View Post

Sorry they do not work well for you. I am very pleased. No issues with clarity and vocals are clean. Considering my other HP's are pretty good, I am used to good sound.

they are clean but the vocals lack weight, I'm more used to HD650/HE-500/LCD3 sound so I found JH16 a bit lacking in that department, other than that it's pretty decent.

post #3324 of 3714

I have the JH16 with  the JH audio 3a dac/amp has anyone tried the Moon Audio cable?

post #3325 of 3714

Also I use the IFI USB power with it, much better when using USB with MacBook

post #3326 of 3714

Hi guys~ 
I currently own westone 4R and i'm looking for CIEM to buy for the first time.

I followed this thread for some quite time to decide between JH 13 and JH 16.
I still didn't make up my mind between the two TT. 

i understand JH 13 is more natural than JH 16 and that 16s have more bass and they are more for bass heads.

But because I can't get an opportunity to actually sit down and carefully listen to both of them to make up my mind, all i can do is to compare them with the current IEM that i use (W4R)

 

Can someone enlighten me which one i should go for?

 

I prefer neutral sound over a bassy sound but i am not implying that I do not like bass. In other words, i am afraid that 13s might sound "too" neutral and lacks too much bass so the music might sound boring; on the other hand, im afraid that 16s might sound too bass heavy for my preference.

I prefer sound that is balanced with clarity and enough bass for the music to sound interesting.

Im sure every CIEM has its pros and cons, but i would very much appreciate people's opinions XD 

 

P.S. I find W4R balanced but lacks a bit of clarity and treble. Also, lacks a bit of "thump" in bass, but the overall bass (called sub-bass?.. im kinda new to this XD sorry) is ok. 

post #3327 of 3714
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Originally Posted by kimsnet4 View Post

Hi guys~ 
I currently own westone 4R and i'm looking for CIEM to buy for the first time.

I followed this thread for some quite time to decide between JH 13 and JH 16.
I still didn't make up my mind between the two TT. 

i understand JH 13 is more natural than JH 16 and that 16s have more bass and they are more for bass heads.

But because I can't get an opportunity to actually sit down and carefully listen to both of them to make up my mind, all i can do is to compare them with the current IEM that i use (W4R)

 

Can someone enlighten me which one i should go for?

 

I prefer neutral sound over a bassy sound but i am not implying that I do not like bass. In other words, i am afraid that 13s might sound "too" neutral and lacks too much bass so the music might sound boring; on the other hand, im afraid that 16s might sound too bass heavy for my preference.

I prefer sound that is balanced with clarity and enough bass for the music to sound interesting.

Im sure every CIEM has its pros and cons, but i would very much appreciate people's opinions XD 

 

P.S. I find W4R balanced but lacks a bit of clarity and treble. Also, lacks a bit of "thump" in bass, but the overall bass (called sub-bass?.. im kinda new to this XD sorry) is ok. 

I had the same challenge as you. I "Went" for the JH16's and hoped it worked out as the good choice. Very pleased! The bass is solid and does not overwhelm. I cannot imagine having less bass and still enjoying them as I do. I have not heard the JH13's but I am very happy I chose the JH16's.

post #3328 of 3714
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Originally Posted by kimsnet4 View Post

Hi guys~ 
I currently own westone 4R and i'm looking for CIEM to buy for the first time.

I followed this thread for some quite time to decide between JH 13 and JH 16.
I still didn't make up my mind between the two TT. 

i understand JH 13 is more natural than JH 16 and that 16s have more bass and they are more for bass heads.

But because I can't get an opportunity to actually sit down and carefully listen to both of them to make up my mind, all i can do is to compare them with the current IEM that i use (W4R)

 

Can someone enlighten me which one i should go for?

 

I prefer neutral sound over a bassy sound but i am not implying that I do not like bass. In other words, i am afraid that 13s might sound "too" neutral and lacks too much bass so the music might sound boring; on the other hand, im afraid that 16s might sound too bass heavy for my preference.

I prefer sound that is balanced with clarity and enough bass for the music to sound interesting.

Im sure every CIEM has its pros and cons, but i would very much appreciate people's opinions XD 

 

P.S. I find W4R balanced but lacks a bit of clarity and treble. Also, lacks a bit of "thump" in bass, but the overall bass (called sub-bass?.. im kinda new to this XD sorry) is ok. 

I think JH13 would fit you here. Neutral is not equal to lacking too much bass. JH13 does have decent amount of bass, it's just not as much as JH16's which does disturb mids part of the spectrum. If you drive JH16 on a proper/great source, the bass is predominant even though it has great decay and speed. So it's up to you whether you want a more exciting sound or a fairly balanced sound. Neither 13 nor 16 is as neutral as W4R to my ears, although they are technically better in every way.

post #3329 of 3714

I find the 13 as close as could be to accurate. It's less warm but also smoother and more extended sounding on top than either the 16 or 4r. If you like the midbass of your 4r, you probably want the 16. If you want something more neutral and accurate, get the 13. The 13 is more revealing of source but I consider than an asset and what I look for when I spend a grand. More revealing is a great thing when you get it right.

post #3330 of 3714
16 is never for bass head unless you drive them with desktop amps. Its bass is no where near any dynamic IEMs like the ie8/800 or mg6pro, maybe half as much...
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