Head-Fi.org › Forums › Equipment Forums › Dedicated Source Components › New Audio-Gd Reference 8 and Reference 9?!
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

New Audio-Gd Reference 8 and Reference 9?! - Page 3

post #31 of 93
I've seen some ac-215 power conditioners go for $60-70 on ebay, I think they are pretty good with my dac19mk3, gives lows and mids more driving force. If you manage to find one below $75 shipped I say it's a good way to upgrade the dac19 and probably your speakers too.
post #32 of 93
Interesting...I will have to look into that.

The only weakness in the DAC-19DSP is the amount of mids. The depth & width are both excellent but the overall heft is missing a bit.

Mind you I only have about 8 hrs on my DAC-19 so far. I should be reserving my comments until I complete the burn in process...but I cant help give my comments, as you can probably all tell I am excited about my new equipment.
post #33 of 93
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sk3383 View Post
Interesting...I will have to look into that.

The only weakness in the DAC-19DSP is the amount of mids. The depth & width are both excellent but the overall heft is missing a bit.
Hmm, no offence, but is it really the DAC or your monitors? Granted, i haven't heard your Rokits, so i'm making a bold claim here, but with my dynaudio BM5As, i'm not hearing the problems you describe.

I've brought the DAC19 to 2 of my friends' places, one was using Omega alnico 8 speakers, the other was using Focal electra 1028 be floorstanders. Again, on both setups, the dac19 didn't sound too neutral or lacking musicality. If anything, there was a slight tinge of warmth.

I was curious about the Rokit monitors, so i did a search and found the following posts rather interesting
Gearslutz.com - View Single Post - Adam A7 vs KRK Rokit 8's - Buying Today
Gearslutz.com - View Single Post - Should I? 2 Year Old KRK Rokit 8
post #34 of 93
I think it's good to try to get as much first impressions as you can, because the quirks will be most apparent before your ears adapt and/or the quirks get mellowed down from burn-in. Getting more mids may be tough though, studio monitors shouldn't have thick mids and neither does the dac19 .
post #35 of 93
No offense taken. You could be right on the money. I read a couple of reviews where the KRK Rokits got so so comments or remarks when compared to higher end equipment. I bought the Rokits because I got a great deal on them and compared to monitors in their price range they were a smart buy for the money. Could also be that I need to let the DAC burn in some more or maybe its just my interpretation of mid range volume is different that others. Everyones views are subjective and not everyone hearing is identical.

You bring up a good point though...I will try to audition a different set of monitors on my system and see if that makes the difference.
post #36 of 93
I dont want to give any potential buyers the impression that the Audio-gd equipment lacks mids because it doesnt. I think I must just have a preference for excessive thickness in the mids.
post #37 of 93
Audio-gd knows how to make dac's with rich mids though, I love compass with moon hdam sound signature-wise ^^.
post #38 of 93
Compass is quite thick in the mids and bottom end, regardless of what opamp you use. Haven't heard any of their other gear though.

Biggie.
post #39 of 93
I think it's amps inside the KRK monitors to tell you the truth. In the meantime keep putting the hours on DAC19. Once you reach 400 hours or so you may feel entirely different. Best to have patience at this point.


Peete.
post #40 of 93
Will do!!
post #41 of 93
So kingwa are now making 2 lines of products to make things clear, the neutral and the "musical flavors" in the DACs but maybe he will do the same on other products.

The reference 8 is the "warm" equivalent of the reference 7 and the reference 9 is the single ended version, yeah it doesn't make sense.

The ref 8 use " Real balance diamond amp output" that seem interesting.
post #42 of 93
Quote:
Originally Posted by Omega17TheTrue View Post
The ref 8 use " Real balance diamond amp output" that seem interesting.
What does that mean/do?
post #43 of 93
It refers to the output stage, which is voltage only (no current outputs).

"4. Diamond differential output circuits : Benefit from to high speed diamond differential output circuits , excellent linearity and low phase distortion, diamond differential circuit is being loved and emphasized by more and more audio fans. Although the circuit is complex, the sound quality is impressive. We’ve done a lot of study and experiment on diamond differential current these lot years, aiming to get a better solution of circuit design.

For a DAC, high analyzing ability is the most important requirement. The detailed recurrence of resolution lies in the upward and downward characteristics and the noise level of the output amplifier. Because output amplifier is the bottleneck, if the upward characteristic is not good enough, the signal cannot be followed correctly on time and amplifier can only catch half or even lower of the signal level when it disappears. This leads to a downsizing of the original range of signal output from DAC, which directly causes obscurity or even loss of sound effect and a low analyzing ability. A lot of DACs, therefore, even with a highly analytical D/A converter in the digital section, cannot play most of the details due to its low analog circuit speed. To get a good upward characteristic, the only way is to use a high-speed low-noise transistor amplifier. Even operation amplifier and tube cannot compare with high-speed low-noise transistor amplifier in effectively lowering the TIM distortion which has a big impact on the sound quality and promising a pure and pleasant sound delivery. "

post #44 of 93
Does diamond differential have some technical benefits over ACSS? I am kind of tempted to try since I need some musicality in my setup but I know good quality XLR cables are expensive.
post #45 of 93
It's still not clear to me what "musical" means. Does that mean lacking of neutrality? Warm? Coloured? Does that mean hiding details? Or a no-linear frequency response? A strong mid-range?
Why some one should prefer something which is not true to the recording?
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Dedicated Source Components
Head-Fi.org › Forums › Equipment Forums › Dedicated Source Components › New Audio-Gd Reference 8 and Reference 9?!