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post #2956 of 3547
12/4/12 at 11:30am
I find the 50's WGT's just a little too warm. The 60's WGTA is better balanced, and especially on top. It's still a wee bit lush, but not sloppily so.
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post #2957 of 3547
12/4/12 at 1:22pm
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Originally Posted by rosgr63 View Post

The newer tubes have the GTB plates set at an angle to each other.

Then again Rob you like the GTB style tubes and so do I.

Are we GTB heretics I wonder?

 

 

On the HD650 cable I have tried 2 balanced (SAA, Rudistor) and 3 single end (SAA, RAL, stock) cables and the RAL despite been SE was the best by far.

That's with my systems and listening preferences.

Out of those cables I woudl agree that the RAL with be the best for the HD650. Also going balance makes a big difference on the HD650. Not as much with the HD800.

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post #2958 of 3547
12/4/12 at 2:17pm
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Out of those cables I woudl agree that the RAL with be the best for the HD650. Also going balance makes a big difference on the HD650. Not as much with the HD800.
Just a tip..try a toxic cables cable..just read they have new ones coming out..silver wire with gold in it.. Check it..u will be surprised.. biggrin.gif
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post #2959 of 3547
12/4/12 at 3:39pm
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Just a tip..try a toxic cables cable..just read they have new ones coming out..silver wire with gold in it.. Check it..u will be surprised.. biggrin.gif

 

Don't think thats new. the SPs have been available for nearly a year now.

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post #2960 of 3547
12/4/12 at 3:45pm
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Don't think thats new. the SPs have been available for nearly a year now.
18awg silver poison anyone? biggrin.gif espensive though! redface.gif
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post #2961 of 3547
12/5/12 at 10:04pm
Initial impressions of the Tung Sol BGRP 6SN7 in my setup are very positive. As I have mentioned recently in this thread, I have been looking for driver tubes that can really compliment my WA22 with the 596 rectifier. My RCA VT-231 and Sylvania GTA each have great strengths, but a clear weakness that leaves me wanting.

After an initial hour and a half long listening session, the TS BGRP are proving to be much more balanced with no glaring frequency response imbalances that my tubes have annoyed me with. The bass is full but not overbearing. The mids have an understated but enjoyable warmth that makes them sound engaging without losing detail or sounding lush at the expense of neglecting the highs. The highs are so far my favorite region. They sound really alive, precise, and realistic. Overall, the tubes sound very resolving, refined, and musically engaging. I'm really enjoying them so far...

Thanks to the generous head-fi'er that offered to ship them to me for audition wink.gif. I won't mention a name since I haven't asked, but this member is lurking about - cheers!
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post #2962 of 3547
12/5/12 at 10:13pm
My above post reminds me of my recent comments on how amazingly well my HD 650 have scaled with my setup. This is especially true with the 596 and TS BGRP. They sound fast, neutral, with really alive treble. I think they can really struggle without an ideal chain in these areas. They can be slow, have a very uneven frequency response with boomy and even muddy bass with rolled off and veiled treble.

It's really remarkable how close they can feel to HD 800 right now in my setup. While they still lack some of the technical prowess of the HD 800, they are also very engaging and musical where the HD 800 can be a tad lean and analytical at times. Just my two cents...
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post #2963 of 3547
12/5/12 at 11:00pm

Initially, the TS-BGRP did not take me by storm. First listen came paired with an EML 5U4G in my WA 6 Special Edition. The presentation was nicer than with the Raytheon's and RCA Grey glass they replaced. But, I could not point to a single head & shoulder trait yet, overall it just succeeded at being really good. High averages all around. Sometimes, it's difficult to know in a short first session. 

 

I also remember the first time I paired the USAF-596 with the TS-BGRP's - did not like it...at all! And I had already sold the EML Glass and would be shipping it out in the morning. I was nervous about what to do next, considering what the glass cost me. Eventually, I changed the length of my digital cable and that turned the pairing from worse-to-first. wink.gif

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post #2964 of 3547
12/6/12 at 12:26am
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Well done Sid-Fi it seems you found what you were looking for.

Is this the end of your tube addiction and final cure?

 

I would like to thank the person who sent you the tubes to try.

Acts like this make our hobby so much better and puts people first, above gear.


Edited by rosgr63 - 12/6/12 at 1:13am
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post #2965 of 3547
12/6/12 at 12:37am
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Originally Posted by rosgr63 View Post

Well done Sid-Fi it seems you found what you were looking for.

Is this the end of your tube addiction and final cure?

 

I would like to thank the person who sent you the tubes to try.

This make our hobby so much better and puts people first, above gear.

 

People first...without a doubt! Now, if I can just send him evil_smiley.gif my own pair.

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post #2966 of 3547
12/6/12 at 5:40am

What tube is this?  It looks like a fake to me.  The lettering on the base does not look real.

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-NOS-Premium-VT-231-6SN7-Tube-Black-Glass-Tung-Sol-USA-Tests-Great-/281033259337?pt=US_Home_Audio_Amplifiers_Preamps&hash=item416ee33949

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post #2967 of 3547
12/6/12 at 6:40am
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What tube is this?  It looks like a fake to me.  The lettering on the base does not look real.

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-NOS-Premium-VT-231-6SN7-Tube-Black-Glass-Tung-Sol-USA-Tests-Great-/281033259337?pt=US_Home_Audio_Amplifiers_Preamps&hash=item416ee33949

To me it looks like a Ken-Rad. At least that's the way mine look.

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post #2968 of 3547
12/6/12 at 7:02am
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Yes, it looks like a Ken-Rad VT-231

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post #2969 of 3547
12/6/12 at 7:23am

+1, haven't seen one with Tung Sol branding on it before thought, that does seem strange.

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Yes, it looks like a Ken-Rad VT-231

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post #2970 of 3547
12/6/12 at 8:08am
Thread Starter 

Here is 6SN7W rebranded as Heintz-Kaufman

 

 

1000

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