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TripleFi.10's vs. Shure SE530's vs. WESTONE 3's vs. Monster Turbine Pro Copper/Gold

post #1 of 28
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Hey guys, I'm new to this site, I got sent here by the guys over at the Extreme Overclocking Forums as they said you guys would have a lot more info on some IEM's

I'm buying a 32GB Cowon S9 soon and wanted to buy some IEM's to go with it (I'd get headphones but I like to workout a lot so IEMs would be a better choice ).

I've researched a bit before coming here and the internet seems to put the Triple.Fi 10's, Shure SE530's, and WESTONE 3's as the top three contenders. I'm more inclined to buy either the Shure's or the Triple.Fi's as I can get either of those for under $300, where the WESTONEs are more like $400-$500.

I listen to mainly rock/metal, but I also enjoy a lot of Break Beats, Drum and Bass, Trance, etc. and a very, very small amount of rap (mostly rock/rap). I love Beyerdynamic headphones with nice bass reproduction, but clear mids and trebles are still very important to me. Sound stage isn't hugely important to me but clarity is for sure. Also keep in mind I have no way of trying any of these headphones so I'm relying on your opinions heh.

Some of my favourite bands are Avenged Sevenfold, Breaking Benjamin, Billy Talent, Disturbed, Linkin Park, Three Days Grace, The Foo Fighters, Hollywood Undead, The Crystal Method. Eminem and Hollywood Undead are the kind of rap and rap/rock I like.

So with all that background information, what IEM's should I be buying, the Shure SE530's or the Triple.Fi 10's (or should I break the bank and go for the WESTONE 3's :P)?

EDIT: Klipsch Image X10's seem to be pretty good too, and only $350.
post #2 of 28
Hi RealityRush,

I'm not in a position to give a totally qualified position, but I was (and I guess still am) in your shoes and have done a lot of research on this.

First and foremost, the Westone's you can get from people on this board and on eBay from authorized sellers for between $300-$375. Shure's can be had for ~$280 and the TF10s are still in high-supply and can be had for less than $200 realistically.

After owning both the TF10s and W3s, and listening to your kind of music, the TF10s are really big and awkward to wear (so if you have small ears, stay away!!) and shine in the highs/mids as opposed to the lows. Based on your music, the W3s or SE530s might be better just in general.

The W3s are the best for your kind of music IF you can get the right fit. They are a picky pair of IEMs and change the sound based on the tips. Personally, my roommates are obsessed with my W3s after I let them try them yesterday but what they describe is NOT what I'm getting. Fantastic low-end nonetheless, but I'm personally not getting the highs/mids.

The SE530s are super comfortable, but have been said to be best for jazz/classical music as they focus on accuracy and the mids/treble. The lows aren't as crisp. However, I'm personally trying to switch to SE530s as I know the fit is better. I'll let the experts give you a better opinion, I just wanted to give you my anecdote.
post #3 of 28
Thread Starter 
Hmmm yeah, I've heard that about the TF10's, that they are the best sound wise but suck for fitting some people's ears.
post #4 of 28
The triple fi 10s are the only IEM that have worked for me fit-wise.

Everyone's ears are different.
post #5 of 28
You could also look at the Westone UM3X.

Ortofon's e-Q7 has had good accolades from people around here; though I've never owned one, so I'm not able to give you personal thoughts on it.
post #6 of 28
Thread Starter 
>.< You guys are making it harder for me to decide now hehe.
post #7 of 28
There are some other top tier IEMs out right now besides those.
You should definitely check out this thread:
http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f103/t...-often-476315/

Very good read.
post #8 of 28
Thread Starter 
The ortofon's look real nice, but I keep reading they don't always fit well >.<

And those Monster Turbine Golds look nice too... agh so much to choose from. Are the coppers better than the golds?
post #9 of 28
I just woke up, so these are going to be three short impressions I have/had of each; I've owned all three for awhile, and still own two of the three.

SE530: The most neutral of the three, I always thought they were a bit on the dark side of things, until I tried the Monster Turbine Pro Gold; now I realize they are the most neutral IEM I have ever listened to. THe bass does not reach down to subterranean levels, nor does the treble extend quite high, but overall it is the best jack-of-all-trades in this case.

Triple.fi 10 Pro
: Definitely tipped towards the treble-side of things, it sounds rough and unrefined at times, and the bass is punchy but light for the most part. As a result, it teds to do metal and other really fast-paced music the best, but at the sacrifice of presenting the music full-bodied.

Westone 3: If price was factored into the question "how good are these IEMs?" I would say this was the worst IEM I ever owned. I'm one of the few that could not understand why these were so highly praised. No matter what tips I tried, they sounded like they were EQ'd to hell and back by a child with no knowledge on how instruments should sound like. The bass was big and bloated, the mids barely passed as being in tune, and the highs were fine most of the time. My memory about them always gets hazy once I get into trying to recall the treble, but I think the highs were acceptable. It still didn't help that the other 2/3 of the sound spectrum was wildly out of whack. In addition to this fundamental flaw, once I listened to something even mildly complicated, let alone fast metal like Meshugga, it was just a digusting wall of sound pushed into my ears. There was no instrument separation or sound quality, just a mess.

Is there a chance that I got a defective W3? Maybe, but I've had PMs from other members saying they too experienced the same thing. And the person who ripped me off of trading the Westone 3 for a beaten-up SE530 posted on the forums saying how wonderful they sounded. So either I have broken eardrums (unlikely!), or the W3 is very picky for who it chooses to impress.

An alternative that you should look at is the Monster Turbine Pro Gold/Copper. It's a more bassy version of the SE530, and while it trades deeper bass for a few tints of accuracy, it's a very fun IEM to have in the stable.
post #10 of 28
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by TheMarchingMule View Post
I just woke up, so these are going to be three short impressions I have/had of each; I've owned all three for awhile, and still own two of the three.

An alternative that you should look at is the Monster Turbine Pro Gold/Copper. It's a more bassy version of the SE530, and while it trades deeper bass for a few tints of accuracy, it's a very fun IEM to have in the stable.
What is the difference between the Copper/Gold Monster Turbines, are the coppers better? Cause they cost more. So I'm trying to decide between the monster/SE530's now, and I'm leaning towards the Monsters cause they have stronger bass and are cheaper.
And where do you get the coppers for $180 like it says on this page: http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f103/t...-often-476315/
post #11 of 28
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Originally Posted by RealityRush View Post
What is the difference between the Copper/Gold Monster Turbines, are the coppers better? Cause they cost more. So I'm trying to decide between the monster/SE530's now, and I'm leaning towards the Monsters cause they have stronger bass and are cheaper.
Gosh I really should remember what I read here haha; from reading past threads throughout the weekend, if I remember correctly the Copper is more neutral with a little big more emphasis in the treble in relation to the Gold which has a stronger lower end.

They are both great in the entire spectrum based on other's reviews however, but... yea; the copper seems more neutral.

I haven't heard any of these and I'm just relaying back what the general opinions of them are from other readers.
post #12 of 28
Thread Starter 
Hmmm so if I wanted a higher end neutral IEM, I could get the Shure SE530s and if I wanted some extra bass I should get the Monster Turbine PRO Gold's?
post #13 of 28
.... A lot of people would say that there's a strong emphasis in the mids for the SE530s... now I'm in no way saying TheMarchingMule is wrong but you should extensively read up on EACH IEM from multiple threads before making your purchase.

This hobby can get really expensive and stressful if you take a "wrong" turn in your purchase... not saying you can't sent them back if you don't like them but this hobby can be fickle if you can't find exactly what you want.
post #14 of 28
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Originally Posted by RealityRush View Post
Hmmm so if I wanted a higher end neutral IEM, I could get the Shure SE530s and if I wanted some extra bass I should get the Monster Turbine PRO Gold's?
If you want a more natural sound id go for the coppers,or even klispch custom 3 or the ortofon which is the most neutral out of the lot

se530 has more forward mids ,but still has great bass if inserted correctly into the ear.
post #15 of 28
I had the TF10 for most of a year, and was almost completely satisfied with its sound, but I had terrible problems with UE's warranty support.

I had the W3 for a week. It's a very powerful IEM that I found to have no soundstage whatsoever. Consequently, I really couldn't stand it. It and the TF10 are the only IEM's I've heard that I would describe as true headphone substitutes, though. The W3 is much more detailed, but the TF10's presentation was infinitely more listenable for me.

I've just ordered the HJE900 because I want to try one more dynamic driver IEM before I completely give up on them. I find their clarity pathetic, and pseudo-analog warmth does nothing for me. (I sold the MTP Copper after less than a day with it last week. Apparently, it requires endless fit tweaking, and burn-in, to provide a good sound. I thought it sounded like a car stereo and wanted nothing more to do with it.) If I dislike the HJE900, I may try the old Shure SE530, nice and cheap on eBay these days. I never bothered with it in the past. Can't remember why. It's either that or the e-Q7, about which there's still little (convincing) feedback.
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