I appreciate all the comments and was doing some reading as well about the koss
ESP-950, problem is all I have to be able to install new wires to whatever I buy. The cabling is known to be a weak link, but I have conclusive proof, evidence, call it what you will, that it is more of a problem than most can realize. I will say that while I wait for my new cabling to be made for the HD-800's , they do sound better than I thought they possibly could with stock cable. My re-cabled 702's absolutely obliterate both of my 600 series Senns, making the 600 series sound, dark, boomy, lacking transparency, lacking extension, speed, preciseness and general neutrality. my once highly regarded 600 series, 600 and 650's aren't nearly as high up on the list. I'm at a point in my life that I'm willing to get whatever seems reasonable because having a wonderful listening experience is transcendent.