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post #8446 of 16803

Reading that review about the M5, I'm feeling even more buyer's remorse getting these R1s.


Edited by Sycho - 10/22/12 at 1:31pm
post #8447 of 16803
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Originally Posted by Sycho View Post

Reading that review about the M5, I'm feeling even more buyer's remorse getting these R1s.

hah, wait until you listen to the CKM500

post #8448 of 16803
How are the mtpc compared to the pfe232? I'm planning to downgrade from my pre because I need a straight down iem and want something not significantly worse thanthe pfe232.
post #8449 of 16803
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Originally Posted by freemini View Post

How do the EPH-100 and the X10i's compare? I'm concerned about problems with the EPH-100, their thread has some people saying one of the drivers fail due to moisture and/or condensation (which would happen quite often here in Norway). They are cheaper though, but lack the inline controls. Forgot to mention I listen to rock and heavy metal most of the time.

 

They are similarly warm and bass-heavy but the EPH-100 will have a fuller, more fleshed-out note presentation, a smoother top end, and a less forward overall sound. The X10 is on the intimate side but the EPH-100 is rather well-rounded. 

 

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Originally Posted by rickdohc View Post

Those M5 are a very good deal at that price, i am gonna try them out.  Thanks for the Review Joker!!!

 

 

Question, i got a FXD80 (and 70, but i know you have not heard the 70's), do you think the Tf10 would be a modert, big, huge or a sidegrade over the 80's? i want a big upgrade from those 80's,  big enough to be blown away.   normal_smile%20.gif   i like bass, but if it sacrifices the mids, highs clarity and detail of the 80's its a big No.

 

 I know that the 80's are not the best in those aspects but i looking for something even better, good enough to been blown away for $200, like just plug them on my ears go like "sweet lord, how didnt i buy these before!!"  

 

The TF10 would be a sidegrade or mild upgrade over the FXD80. I don't think you will be blown away. Neither has great midrange presence so I wouldn't worry about that but if you are expecting a great upgrade over the FXD80 for <$200 you'll likely be disappointed, unless of course you didn't like the FXD80's sound signature in the first place. 

 

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Originally Posted by djvkool View Post

I agree with the M5, purchased it 2 weeks ago and I am not able to put it down since then, until today, but thats because I have just receive my R1...

 

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I'm finding it more difficult to get excited about entry-level stuff these days but the M5 does belong in the best-under-$40 club. 

 

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Originally Posted by funsound View Post

How are the mtpc compared to the pfe232? I'm planning to downgrade from my pre because I need a straight down iem and want something not significantly worse thanthe pfe232.

 

It won't be as as clear, crisp, or detailed and generally will have more bass and less treble. Not a great signature match for the PFE232 IMO - I would rather save some $$ get a JVC FXD80, personally.

post #8450 of 16803

Here's a great question: I'd love an IEM that has RE272 response, but bit (not a lot, mind you) more bass, without the hardening cable issue.

 

Theirs is the only signature that almost matched my ears' in shallow insertion.

RE272 only had slight 2k boost and 3k dip, combined with minor super high end shelf, but no rolloff. Great package sound-wise, but not usability-wise.

(In very deep insertion, into the second ear canal bend, TWFK Brainwavz B2 works well - with too much bass instead and slight 5k boost. Bit rough in the midrange and bass due to some distortion. This obviously requires long foams, currently Comply P Slim.)

 

Alternatively, someone willing to properly recable my older RE272 with some reasonable cable - it seems no small feat and the cable is broken near the earpiece.

post #8451 of 16803
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The TF10 would be a sidegrade or mild upgrade over the FXD80. I don't think you will be blown away. Neither has great midrange presence so I wouldn't worry about that but if you are expecting a great upgrade over the FXD80 for <$200 you'll likely be disappointed, unless of course you didn't like the FXD80's sound signature in the first place. 

 


Thanks Joker, so it seems like a No and better save my money for now.  yes, i like the sound signature, i want something with a bigger sound and better mids but with a very good bass so i dont miss the fun whe i need that bass pounding my ears.   Seems like a need to go upper to the 300 tier?

post #8452 of 16803

wow........

You put great effort putting these information together.

Great job.

post #8453 of 16803

I was redirected here from Doc Holliday, I had some questions about IEMs that I was hoping you can help me with. 

 

From reading through your Reviews a few sets of IEMs have caught my eyes, 

 

Monster Turbine Pro Coppers

HiFiMan RE272's

Westone 2's

 

I listen to a lot of different types of music, but the majority of it is trance. I noticed that you gave the 272's and and the Westone's very hight SQ ratings which is what drew me to them, but I'm worried that they might not be as great for the type of music I listen to (not that I want blasting base or anything, just something that is great for listening to everything).

 

Doc Holliday thought that I might like the UE TF10's and after reading this: ( http://www.head-fi.org/products/monster-turbine-pro-copper-in-ear-headphones/reviews ) I think that the Copper's will be the best fit for me, but seeing as I have tried none of them out, I was hoping that you could help me make a decision. 

 

Thanks!

 

Justin

post #8454 of 16803
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Originally Posted by AstralStorm View Post

Here's a great question: I'd love an IEM that has RE272 response, but bit (not a lot, mind you) more bass, without the hardening cable issue.

 

Theirs is the only signature that almost matched my ears' in shallow insertion.

RE272 only had slight 2k boost and 3k dip, combined with minor super high end shelf, but no rolloff. Great package sound-wise, but not usability-wise.

(In very deep insertion, into the second ear canal bend, TWFK Brainwavz B2 works well - with too much bass instead and slight 5k boost. Bit rough in the midrange and bass due to some distortion. This obviously requires long foams, currently Comply P Slim.)

 

Alternatively, someone willing to properly recable my older RE272 with some reasonable cable - it seems no small feat and the cable is broken near the earpiece.

 

I would love that IEMs as well. Unfortunately I haven't found it yet.

 

Regarding recabling, this seems like it might be an ideal option for the 272 assuming it's possible to get into those shells: http://www.head-fi.org/t/601360/universals-modded-with-removable-cables-fischer-audio-dba-02-brainwavz-b2-um3x-sleek-audio 

 

 

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Originally Posted by rickdohc View Post

 


Thanks Joker, so it seems like a No and better save my money for now.  yes, i like the sound signature, i want something with a bigger sound and better mids but with a very good bass so i dont miss the fun whe i need that bass pounding my ears.   Seems like a need to go upper to the 300 tier?

 

$300 doesn't open up that many possibilities compared to $200. I still think I'd go for the GR07 in that price range. Might as well shoot for $400 and get a mid-level custom like the Alclair Reference for a bigger step up from the FXD80.

 

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Originally Posted by nijohc View Post

wow........

You put great effort putting these information together.

Great job.

 

Thanks!

 

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Originally Posted by SmrkngRvng View Post

I was redirected here from Doc Holliday, I had some questions about IEMs that I was hoping you can help me with. 

 

From reading through your Reviews a few sets of IEMs have caught my eyes, 

 

Monster Turbine Pro Coppers

HiFiMan RE272's

Westone 2's

 

I listen to a lot of different types of music, but the majority of it is trance. I noticed that you gave the 272's and and the Westone's very hight SQ ratings which is what drew me to them, but I'm worried that they might not be as great for the type of music I listen to (not that I want blasting base or anything, just something that is great for listening to everything).

 

Doc Holliday thought that I might like the UE TF10's and after reading this: ( http://www.head-fi.org/products/monster-turbine-pro-copper-in-ear-headphones/reviews ) I think that the Copper's will be the best fit for me, but seeing as I have tried none of them out, I was hoping that you could help me make a decision. 

 

Thanks!

 

Justin

 

It really depends on how you like to hear your music. I think the general assumption is that a somewhat v-shaped signature (or at the very least some enhanced bass) would work better for electronic music but that may not be true for everyone. Personally I think that this is more true in reverse - sometimes a not-too-great earphone with a v-shaped signature tends to sound better with EDM than other genres (saw this recently with the JVC FX101, JVC FX40, and even JVC FXD80).

 

I certainly wouldn't go for the RE272 or Westone 2 unless you already know that a balanced sound is what you're after. The TF10 and Coppers are safer choices. I don't recommend the Copper very often these days because I feel that there are some better values out there - the VSonic GR07, JVC FXT90, and Yamaha EPH-100, for example. I don't know what your price limit is but if you're looking at the coppers I am sure you can afford the FXT90 or EPH-100, which are slightly better performers in my book and provide plentiful bass. The TF10 is also a good choice if you're not paying more than $150-200 and think you will be able to get along with its fit. I would still go for the JVCs or Yamahas, personally. 

post #8455 of 16803

Joker right now I have the skullcandy smokin bud (it's complicated rolleyes.gif) and I'm thinking about buying the she3580. How much of an improvement should I expect; better bass quality/quantity, better mids and better treble? BTW I listen to rap/dubstep

post #8456 of 16803
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Originally Posted by lilboozy View Post

Joker right now I have the skullcandy smokin bud (it's complicated rolleyes.gif) and I'm thinking about buying the she3580. How much of an improvement should I expect; better bass quality/quantity, better mids and better treble? BTW I listen to rap/dubstep

 

Well, the Smokin but doesn't really do anything right as far as I'm concerned so I would say the SHE3580 is a big improvement. Don't make the mistake of equating quantity with quality - the Smokin buds have good bass presence but poor quality. If you like a ridiculous amount of bass the JVC FX101 might be a better fit for you than the SHE3580. 

post #8457 of 16803

hi there, have anybody tried the "new" meelec m6 clear? is it really new or same as that from 2009  (driver, housing, cable etc)  ?

thanx!

post #8458 of 16803
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Originally Posted by garcsa View Post

hi there, have anybody tried the "new" meelec m6 clear? is it really new or same as that from 2009  (driver, housing, cable etc)  ?

thanx!

Its basically the same, all colors have the same drivers, build quality etc, I dont think they changed anything..You can just mail @ support@meelec.com to just confirm it though

post #8459 of 16803
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Originally Posted by hitme987 View Post

Its basically the same, all colors have the same drivers, build quality etc, I dont think they changed anything..You can just mail @ support@meelec.com to just confirm it though

thanx, the mail was sent.

post #8460 of 16803
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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post

 

I would love that IEMs as well. Unfortunately I haven't found it yet.

 

Regarding recabling, this seems like it might be an ideal option for the 272 assuming it's possible to get into those shells: http://www.head-fi.org/t/601360/universals-modded-with-removable-cables-fischer-audio-dba-02-brainwavz-b2-um3x-sleek-audio 

 

$300 doesn't open up that many possibilities compared to $200. I still think I'd go for the GR07 in that price range. Might as well shoot for $400 and get a mid-level custom like the Alclair Reference for a bigger step up from the FXD80.

 

 

Thanks!

 

 

It really depends on how you like to hear your music. I think the general assumption is that a somewhat v-shaped signature (or at the very least some enhanced bass) would work better for electronic music but that may not be true for everyone. Personally I think that this is more true in reverse - sometimes a not-too-great earphone with a v-shaped signature tends to sound better with EDM than other genres (saw this recently with the JVC FX101, JVC FX40, and even JVC FXD80).

 

I certainly wouldn't go for the RE272 or Westone 2 unless you already know that a balanced sound is what you're after. The TF10 and Coppers are safer choices. I don't recommend the Copper very often these days because I feel that there are some better values out there - the VSonic GR07, JVC FXT90, and Yamaha EPH-100, for example. I don't know what your price limit is but if you're looking at the coppers I am sure you can afford the FXT90 or EPH-100, which are slightly better performers in my book and provide plentiful bass. The TF10 is also a good choice if you're not paying more than $150-200 and think you will be able to get along with its fit. I would still go for the JVCs or Yamahas, personally. 

Thanks for the recommendations! I really like the Yamaha's and am looking to buy them, but because I live in Canada it is extremely difficult. I haven't been able to find anybody who is selling new ones in Canada, including Yamaha! If anyone has any suggestions on where to look I'd really appreciate it. Thanks!

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