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post #8326 of 16803

If AKG K3003 is too expensive for you and you can live with the treble filters, Fischer Audio DBA-02 or Brainwavz B2 are quite comparable.

If you cannot, then perhaps VSonic GR01.


Edited by AstralStorm - 10/7/12 at 6:06am
post #8327 of 16803
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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post

I only have a stock TF10. The e-Q5 is a more balanced than that and than the FX500 as well. Definitely no recessed mids there. It's actually still one of the most 'pleasant' earphones I've heard, maybe not the best at anything but so refined and relaxed that wanted to listen to it instead of reviewing it. 

 

Hi joker,

 

Thanks for your quick responsewink_face.gif

 

I have another question about it

 

does the e-Q5 have similar sound signature of brainwavz m1? because I've already sell my brainwavz m1 which does not fit my preference..

 

My preference is similar to tf10 or U shape sound signature, mostly I listen to rock, rnb, pop, acoustic and hip hop

 

My max budget for the new iem will be 200usd

 

I'm just worried about e-Q5's treble it might not suit me, because I like sparkly and extended highs

May be dba02 mk-II might suit mepopcorn.gif

 

but I wonder the bass of it, is it similar to tf10 and without metallic timbre? angry_face.gif

 

if yes I might go for itbeyersmile.png

 

if you have any other suggested iem, I will be gladly to consider it

 

Thank you very much for enlightening me for my next purchasebiggrin.gif

post #8328 of 16803

Brainwavz B2 and Fischer Audio DBA-02 (mkI; mkII probably as well, as they measure very much the same) doesn't have metallic timbre to my ears - only high amounts of 4-6k brightness if used with foams.

Interestingly enough, this brightness is reduced noticeably (to near zero?) with silicone tips.

(e.g. included single flanges or even better, VSonic single flanges)

 

9/10 in my scale - pity they don't have any better subbass handling. The signature with silicones is relatively flat to my ears with minor dip in the center midrange (pushing female vocals back) and very minor aggressive boost at 5-6 kHz.

No metallic 2-3 kHz boost, no metallic "bell-like" 4k resonance.


Edited by AstralStorm - 10/7/12 at 7:20am
post #8329 of 16803
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What's the output impedance of the Zodiac? You really don't want a high output impedance for a BA monitor such as the UM3X. 

 

Mismatch sounds like a much more plausible theory than mine.  tongue.gif

 

Looked it up and there are conflicting reports online, some say 120 ohm, some say 5 ohm.  

post #8330 of 16803
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Originally Posted by AstralStorm View Post

Brainwavz B2 and Fischer Audio DBA-02 (mkI; mkII probably as well, as they measure very much the same) doesn't have metallic timbre to my ears - only high amounts of 4-6k brightness if used with foams.

Interestingly enough, this brightness is reduced noticeably (to near zero?) with silicone tips.

(e.g. included single flanges or even better, VSonic single flanges)

 

9/10 in my scale - pity they don't have any better subbass handling. The signature with silicones is relatively flat to my ears with minor dip in the center midrange (pushing female vocals back) and very minor aggressive boost at 5-6 kHz.

No metallic 2-3 kHz boost, no metallic "bell-like" 4k resonance.

 

AstralStorm, wow, that's a good news, no metallic timbre makes me jump and grab those dba-02 mkII right away

 

usually I use silicone tips in my iems, foam tips is very expensive for me

 

now the search begins and if possible I will audition this in our local store first

 

thanks a lot for your advice


Edited by walkman_heart - 10/7/12 at 9:05am
post #8331 of 16803
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Originally Posted by walkman_heart View Post

 

Hi joker,

 

Thanks for your quick responsewink_face.gif

 

I have another question about it

 

does the e-Q5 have similar sound signature of brainwavz m1? because I've already sell my brainwavz m1 which does not fit my preference..

 

My preference is similar to tf10 or U shape sound signature, mostly I listen to rock, rnb, pop, acoustic and hip hop

 

My max budget for the new iem will be 200usd

 

I'm just worried about e-Q5's treble it might not suit me, because I like sparkly and extended highs

May be dba02 mk-II might suit mepopcorn.gif

 

but I wonder the bass of it, is it similar to tf10 and without metallic timbre? angry_face.gif

 

if yes I might go for itbeyersmile.png

 

if you have any other suggested iem, I will be gladly to consider it

 

Thank you very much for enlightening me for my next purchasebiggrin.gif

 

No, the M1 is thicker and more mid-centric. The e-Q5 is more balanced and clean-sounding. However, it's really not v- or u-shaped. Neither is the DBA-02 mkII, but it does have more treble energy than the e-Q5. Leaner bass, though.  And both have less bass than the TF10. Even the UE900 has less bass than the TF10, and that's UE's own follow-up.

 

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Originally Posted by sphinxvc View Post

 

Mismatch sounds like a much more plausible theory than mine.  tongue.gif

 

Looked it up and there are conflicting reports online, some say 120 ohm, some say 5 ohm.  

 

That's a pretty wide gap rolleyes.gif

post #8332 of 16803
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That's a pretty wide gap rolleyes.gif

 

I know, it's harder than it should be to find detailed information on Antelope products.  

post #8333 of 16803
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I know, it's harder than it should be to find detailed information on Antelope products.  

 

Indeed. Tech specs really shouldn't be a matter of opinion. 

post #8334 of 16803
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Originally Posted by AstralStorm View Post

If AKG K3003 is too expensive for you and you can live with the treble filters, Fischer Audio DBA-02 or Brainwavz B2 are quite comparable.

If you cannot, then perhaps VSonic GR01.


Sorry to ask, but what do you mean by "treble filters"?

post #8335 of 16803
Thread Starter 

A full review of the MEElec A161P and Fischer SBA-03, with measurements, has been posted at InnerFidelity here. I'll be adding the MEElec A161P to the chart as a separate entry in the near future. The cable, plug, and accessory pack are different from the Fischer version. Everything else is pretty much the same. 

 

 

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Sorry to ask, but what do you mean by "treble filters"?

 

The K3003 comes with 3 sets of tuning filters that affect the sound - bass boost, treble boost, and reference. There's some info on them in the beginning of my write-up as well. 

post #8336 of 16803

256. Nice round number for us IT people.

 

Are you testing the Rock-It R50 already? Would they reach at least 8.5 on your rating scale?

post #8337 of 16803

hi ljokerl! I want to recommend some U (or even V)shaped headphone to one of my friend that listen to pop and  rock & metal songs

I want to recommend him tf10 and w3 or even ie8 (I heard w4r and ex1000 and ie8)

 

when I listen to metal songs with ex1000 I hear a lot of harshness in treble (in ie8 case the treble was good without any harshness) so  are w3 or tf10 safe choices?

can you suggest me some U (or even V)shaped headphone which have not a hot treble like ex1000? (I think that something  like ie8 whit less bass quantity and tighter bass will be suitable.)

 

thanks


Edited by heart banger-97 - 10/9/12 at 9:10am
post #8338 of 16803
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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post

A full review of the MEElec A161P and Fischer SBA-03, with measurements, has been posted at InnerFidelity here. I'll be adding the MEElec A161P to the chart as a separate entry in the near future. The cable, plug, and accessory pack are different from the Fischer version. Everything else is pretty much the same. 

 

 

 

The K3003 comes with 3 sets of tuning filters that affect the sound - bass boost, treble boost, and reference. There's some info on them in the beginning of my write-up as well. 


 Thanks for the answer joker, I didn't understand he was refering to the K3003

post #8339 of 16803
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by PMAP View Post

256. Nice round number for us IT people.

 

Are you testing the Rock-It R50 already? Would they reach at least 8.5 on your rating scale?

 

Yes and yes

 

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Originally Posted by heart banger-97 View Post

hi ljokerl! I want to recommend some U (or even V)shaped headphone to one of my friend that listen to pop and  rock & metal songs

I want to recommend him tf10 and w3 or even ie8 (I heard w4r and ex1000 and ie8)

 

when I listen to metal songs with ex1000 I hear a lot of harshness in treble (in ie8 case the treble was good without any harshness) so  are w3 or tf10 safe choices?

can you suggest me some U (or even V)shaped headphone which have not a hot treble like ex1000? (I think that something  like ie8 whit less bass quantity and tighter bass will be suitable.)

 

thanks

 

The TF10 has less treble energy than the EX1000 in my experience but it's by no means laid-back. The W3 is highly tip depend and can sound somewhat harsh. I would consider the Yamaha EPH-100 or Monster Miles Davis Trumpet as alternatives. The Trumpet is more v-shaped but not harsh or bright while the EPH-100 is a bit more laid-back up top and has a heavier midrange emphasis. 

post #8340 of 16803
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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post

 

Yes and yes

 

 

The TF10 has less treble energy than the EX1000 in my experience but it's by no means laid-back. The W3 is highly tip depend and can sound somewhat harsh. I would consider the Yamaha EPH-100 or Monster Miles Davis Trumpet as alternatives. The Trumpet is more v-shaped but not harsh or bright while the EPH-100 is a bit more laid-back up top and has a heavier midrange emphasis. 

 

thanks, my friend think that the bass quantity of klipsch s4 is too much (boomy) for him. do you think that eph-100 has less bass quantity? (as you said in your review, eph-100 has less bass quantity than Monster Miles Davis Trumpet)


Edited by heart banger-97 - 10/10/12 at 2:44am
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