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post #826 of 16802

ljokerl you should be happy to know that I finally bought myself a new pair of CK10's after they have been eating at the back of my mind since I listened to your pair over the summer. It's funny, every other iem I heard since the CK10's I have been comparing to them and I have to say, the ATH keep coming out on top. 

 

My wallet is shedding a few tears...ok a lot of tears and a small brain hemorrhage but in 10 days or so my ears and mind should be back at ease. *crosses fingers* Can't wait to hear nay experience that magic again

post #827 of 16802

Excellent choice there :) The CK10 remains my favorite universal as the best package. It sounds great and is in the top 2 in terms of build quality and cable quality with the CK100 as the other. I don't know which is 1st and 2nd but they can easily be interchanged and you would get no complaints from me.

post #828 of 16802

+1 on the ck10 love. Only thing is the strain relief near the earpiece doesn't look like its molded on.

post #829 of 16802

another ck10 convert.  excellent.  i saw a pair for sale in the forum for $270.  that's kinda pushing it i think.  haha.

post #830 of 16802
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Originally Posted by rawrster View Post

Excellent choice there " class="bbcode_smiley" height="" src="http://files.head-fi.org/images/smilies//smily_headphones1.gif" title=":)" width="" /> The CK10 remains my favorite universal as the best package. It sounds great and is in the top 2 in terms of build quality and cable quality with the CK100 as the other. I don't know which is 1st and 2nd but they can easily be interchanged and you would get no complaints from me.


How does the hje900 compare in build quality to the ck10/ck100? It's been described as being built like a tank with replaceable cables...but then the ck10/ck100 are also said to be among the best built IEMs in production.

post #831 of 16802

Well I did say the CK10/CK100 as top 2 and I own the HJE900 :) I find the CK10/CK100 the better package in terms of build quality than the HJE900 even though neither have replaceable cables. The CK10/CK100 have housings that are built like thanks, soft and flexible cable that has very low microphonics straight down and no memory when wrapped. The HJE900 has very good housings and is user replaceable. The cable is where it falls way short. It retains memory, has a chin slider that is more for show than anything and the cable is much more microphonic. If the CK10/CK100 had user replaceable cables with the same cable then they would further the distance between the next best built universal.

post #832 of 16802
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Originally Posted by germanturkey View Post

another ck10 convert.  excellent.  i saw a pair for sale in the forum for $270.  that's kinda pushing it i think.  haha.


That price is more than pushing it....anyhow, I can't wait to get the CK10's! Have to agree with Rawr on the build quality as well, second to none, it is without question the best I have ever seen and experienced. None of other iem's I have tried or owned have come close to them, I honestly feel that they are the only set of iem's I don't fear any sort of problem with as a result of the build. I think I could abuse them like no tomorrow and they would be no worse for wear, they are that well made.

post #833 of 16802

^^ see, you say that, but i'm still deathly afraid i'll break them somehow.  like when i listen before bed, i'm always ocd about making sure i put them on my bedside table in a way that they don't scratch anything metal i have or fall on the floor.  haha.

post #834 of 16802
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Originally Posted by proedros View Post

Oh i hadn't seen it , so thanx for pointing me there

 

Again , thanx for such a thorough and painstaking review...I am sure i ain't the only one who benefited from this thread

 

Expect some more questions when i decide to upgrade and move to the 200$ area (i will wait to see the feedback on the RE-262...)

 

Cheers

 

Thanks, and good luck on your upgrade path 
 

 

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Originally Posted by kjk1281 View Post

Thanks for the update!  I'm glad somebody got the chance to try both the CX280 and CX281 so I don't have to.

Pretty much in agreement with a majority of the review, particularly the CX280's airiness and occasional lack of intimacy, though I do get the feeling you were hearing more bass than I am.  Then again, the lack of sub-bass weight per your description may be what contributes to that perception.

 

Anyway, if I were to upgrade, I'd probably go for something similar to the CX280.  It's not a perfect canalphone by any stretch of the imagination, but it does many things to my liking.  Not exactly sure what a proper upgrade would be but I'm sure the answer will lie somewhere in this thread (if it doesn't already).


And thank you for the CX280! I did personally think that the (mid/upper) bass was plentiful but then we all know my inclinations towards 'bass-light' phones . The IE7s might indeed be a good choice for you though I've been very impressed with the space and air of the Thinksound TS02 as well. Compared them to IE7s yesterday and couldn't pick a clear winner. If the price of the TS02 drops 20-30% as happened with the other thinksound earphones, they'll be a real strong contender as they can compete with the Eterna/VB/Xears TD100/Brainwavz M2 crop in their own (warm and lush) way. 



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Originally Posted by rawrster View Post

Just out of curiosity but do you have any interest in the PFE Perfect Bass? However I'm assuming the only real difference between that and the one you have reviewed (assuming you have reviewed it) is the different filter.


Interest, yes. I did review the PFE121 but the cables frayed and I don't have it anymore. I've not been keeping up with the news but I take it Phonak won't sell the bass filters separately? 
 

 

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Originally Posted by SolidSnake3 View Post

ljokerl you should be happy to know that I finally bought myself a new pair of CK10's after they have been eating at the back of my mind since I listened to your pair over the summer. It's funny, every other iem I heard since the CK10's I have been comparing to them and I have to say, the ATH keep coming out on top. 

 

My wallet is shedding a few tears...ok a lot of tears and a small brain hemorrhage but in 10 days or so my ears and mind should be back at ease. *crosses fingers* Can't wait to hear nay experience that magic again


Wow, I still find it hard to believe that the CK10s infected someone so badly. Then again, I just spent three hours (instead of 15 mins) drinking tea and listening to the CK10 and SM3 side by side. This hobby is worse than some drug habits.



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Originally Posted by rawrster View Post

Excellent choice there " class="bbcode_smiley" height="" src="http://files.head-fi.org/images/smilies//smily_headphones1.gif" title=":)" width="" /> The CK10 remains my favorite universal as the best package. It sounds great and is in the top 2 in terms of build quality and cable quality with the CK100 as the other. I don't know which is 1st and 2nd but they can easily be interchanged and you would get no complaints from me.


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Originally Posted by slntdth93 View Post

+1 on the ck10 love. Only thing is the strain relief near the earpiece doesn't look like its molded on.



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Originally Posted by germanturkey View Post

another ck10 convert.  excellent.  i saw a pair for sale in the forum for $270.  that's kinda pushing it i think.  haha.

 

Good bit of love for the CK10 here. Glad there's still a few people out there hanging on to them. To illustrate the issue with comparing another IEM to the CK10/CK100 in build quality I will simply post this:

 

P1090821.jpg

 

CK10 is on the top. Bottom is a UE TF10, the cabling of which is far from thinnest among my IEMs. I don't think the picture illustrates the extent of the difference but the CK10 cable is at least 2x meatier and makes  the TF10 look like it's wired with string.



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Originally Posted by JxK View Post

How does the hje900 compare in build quality to the ck10/ck100? It's been described as being built like a tank with replaceable cables...but then the ck10/ck100 are also said to be among the best built IEMs in production.


The HJE900 is very solid, no doubt about that, but it has some design choices that boggle the mind. The crappy cable cinch is one. The hard strain relief on the 3.5mm plug is another. The below-average cord length is a third. And, as rawrster said, the cable simply doesn't feel high-end despite being somewhat thick. It's a bit worse than Turbine cords IMO and a pretty big step down from CK10/CK100 cables. 



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Originally Posted by germanturkey View Post

^^ see, you say that, but i'm still deathly afraid i'll break them somehow.  like when i listen before bed, i'm always ocd about making sure i put them on my bedside table in a way that they don't scratch anything metal i have or fall on the floor.  haha.


Hah, it helps that I got my CK10s used. They've been in use since 2008 and I've never been careful with them - probably least careful out of all my earphones. I have to say that the titanium faceplate is very difficult to scratch. If the light falls on it a certain way I can see a couple of very thin scratches on the surface but I've been pretty rough on them so the fact that there's no deep gashes is a testament in itself. I take very good care of the rest of my earphones but the CK10s just scream 'abuse me'. The plastic bits, strain relief, and cable on my set are still in excellent condition. You should really worry more about the damage your CK10s will do to whatever they land on 

post #835 of 16802

It's a bit odd I know but the CK10's are the first and only iem's I have listened to that made me forget I had iem's in. It was that ah ha! sort of moment that is what keeps sticking in my head. It's not that they infected me with their speed or anything like that, it's just that the sense of real music was so strong. That is what I miss most and what eventually caused me to buy a pair. It's not like I dream about them or anything like that it's just that when I logically review or think about my iem's and those I have heard I can't help but admit they come out on top the stack. I guess that's what I'm trying to say in a sometimes overly poetic and enthusiastic sort of way.

 

I think this sums it up well:

 

With the CK10's I wasn't listening to an IEM, I was listening to music
 

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Originally Posted by SolidSnake3 View Post

ljokerl you should be happy to know that I finally bought myself a new pair of CK10's after they have been eating at the back of my mind since I listened to your pair over the summer. It's funny, every other iem I heard since the CK10's I have been comparing to them and I have to say, the ATH keep coming out on top. 

 

My wallet is shedding a few tears...ok a lot of tears and a small brain hemorrhage but in 10 days or so my ears and mind should be back at ease. *crosses fingers* Can't wait to hear nay experience that magic again


Wow, I still find it hard to believe that the CK10s infected someone so badly. Then again, I just spent three hours (instead of 15 mins) drinking tea and listening to the CK10 and SM3 side by side. This hobby is worse than some drug habits.

 

post #836 of 16802
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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post

Good bit of love for the CK10 here. Glad there's still a few people out there hanging on to them. To illustrate the issue with comparing another IEM to the CK10/CK100 in build quality I will simply post this:

 

P1090821.jpg

 

CK10 is on the top. Bottom is a UE TF10, the cabling of which is far from thinnest among my IEMs. I don't think the picture illustrates the extent of the difference but the CK10 cable is at least 2x meatier and makes  the TF10 look like it's wired with string.

 


How does the CK10 go with the E7? That's looking like the portable rig I'm aiming for at the moment (iPod>L3>E7>CK10). I'd like to say that it'd be my 'final' portable rig, but y'know... This website is a black hole. I need to find gainful employment and get some cash together.

post #837 of 16802

They do sell the filters separately and I've been toying with getting myself a pair with the grey and black filters as well.

http://store.audeoworld.com/shared/StoreFront/default.asp?CS=audeoworld&StoreType=BtoC&Count1=949871242&Count2=867011666

 

post #838 of 16802

I had the e7 for a while, so i'll give my impressions from what i remember.  (so you can rightfully infer that i returned it.)  let me say that apparently, it goes super well with the re0, which many people seem to think is a lesser ck10.  however, when i plugged it in to my ipod via lod or into my computer via usb, it widened the sound stage in such a way that it made the music sound distant.  something i'm unfamiliar with since i don't use full sized headphones.  i had become accustomed to the intimate, yet completely enveloping sound that the ck10s produced.  so to have a "gap" between where the sound was coming from and where i was hearing the sound actually turned me off from the device.  i figured a slight boost in bass (which was actually pretty nice) wasn't worth the change in sound.  so i ended up returning the device.  of course, its only my opinion, so someone else might have a more favorable view.

 

joker, i probably won't let go of my ck10s ever.  if you dig up the ck10 thread, there's a record of me searching high and low for a few months looking for them.  haha.


Edited by germanturkey - 9/28/10 at 8:31am
post #839 of 16802
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Originally Posted by germanturkey View Post

 

joker, i probably won't let go of my ck10s ever.  if you dig up the ck10 thread, there's a record of me searching high and low for a few months looking for them.  haha.


I feel the same way about my Eterna V1's. I got them right when the V2 came out because I knew they wouldn't be on sale for much longer. I don't think I will ever sell them, maybe give them to a friend some day so they can experience the awesomeness but other than that they are staying firmly in my drawer or in my ears 

post #840 of 16802

Too bad I don't feel the same way about my Eterna v1. They been in an altoids can and have barely seen anything outside of the darkness inside that can in the past month or so.

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