or Connect
Head-Fi.org › Forums › Equipment Forums › Portable Headphones, Earphones and In-Ear Monitors › Multi-IEM Review - 352 IEMs compared (Pump Audio Earphones added 04/03/16 p. 1106)
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Multi-IEM Review - 352 IEMs compared (Pump Audio Earphones added 04/03/16 p. 1106) - Page 51

post #751 of 16803
Thread Starter 

Quote:

Originally Posted by kantongkresek View Post

Hi Ijokerl,

 

Right now I have 2 iems: Phonak PFE & Fischer DBA 02. do you have input for upgrade? i love more pfe compare to dba 02 due to forward and smooth vocal. dba02 is laid back except i plug the right into left and the left itu right.  

 

Thanks


That's a tough one. My first thought was the Westone UM3X, which is really smooth and forward in the midrange and still extremely detailed, much like the PFE, but if you like the aggressive presentation of the PFE you may find the UM3X slightly boring, much like I do. The Ortofon e-Q7 fits the bill too if you can live with a bit less treble extension than the UM3X/PFE are capable of providing. Everything else I can think of with that signature wouldn't really be a clear step up over the PFE in overall SQ (though I haven't tried the SE535 or SM3.. yet).

post #752 of 16803

This guide has been extremely helpful. I read it all the time, depite me already having IEMs. I also suggest it to everyone in the IEM market. Fantastic guide |joker|! Thanks for all the new additions as well!

 

I remember when I bought the Pro Gold a few weeks ago. I thought to myself, "|joker| gave this a 9.25 in SQ! It's up there with some of the best!". I was really quite excited to hear a "really good" IEM, as my previous IEM was the Philips 9850.

 

Well, unfortunately for me, I'm not incredibly impressed with the SQ. Now, I'm in sort of a state of dispair, knowing that I am disappointed with a "9.25" in SQ. Yes, I know sound is subjective an all, but I think all of |joker|'s ratings are definitely in the ball park, if not nearly dead accurate. So now, I don't plan on upgrading at all, rather I'm going to actually downgrade. I will be looking for an IEM with more of a certain "ability or function". I guess the statement is slightly true then that people will pay "extra money" for that 10-15% increase in SQ...

 

For now, I'm stuck with the Golds. I feel bad saying that, because they are such a "nice" headphone to many others, but for me it's almost a waste of money. Even at the $162 I paid for them! (What on earth is wrong with me?) Eventually, I hope to sale them or trade them for something else, probably here on the forums. But, when I do go back to buying a slightly cheaper IEM, I am definitely coming back to this thread! I may just go with something cheap and to the point, such as the PL50 or even the S4. I dunno, a bit confused really.

 

I may just be a full sized user. IEM's may just not be my thing. Hmm.


Edited by Katun - 9/13/10 at 1:57pm
post #753 of 16803

Okay, okay, I admit it! So I do like them!

 

I actually was comparing them to all my headphones today, and they sound better than all of them, including the M50. They absolutely stomp my 9850, which is a good thing. They sound very, very thick, and have a nice, rich, full sound with excellent bass. They sound wonderful (not jaw dropping, but wonderful) but that isn't the problem...

 

My absolute biggest problem is the fitting. I really cannot get a consistent fit with any of the 17 tips! It's really bothering me, because it's really frustrating. I guess I should start buying a bunch of different "fit kits" to see which eartip is best for me. Obviously, Monster's tips don't work for me. Maybe some Sony Hybrids, a MEelec fit kit, or even a Shure fit kit? I'm not sure, but all I know is I like the sound. It's the fit that is really irritating me.

 

Anyone recommend a tip other than the Monster brand? I am willing to buy all different kinds just to find one that works for me.

post #754 of 16803
Thread Starter 

Funny but the Golds really aren't an earphone that you like right away, especially after spending time around head-fi. I know I walked away unimpressed at first listen. However, my reviews take 3-4 weeks for a reason - give the Golds time and their sound signature will blossom to provide no-compromises enjoyment. They really don't do anything in particular better than every other earphone (except maybe smoothness) but it all comes together very nicely - just have to give them time (and be sure that their signature is one you may like).

 

I'm not a big fan of Hybrids on the MTPG (though they are far worse on the MTPC). Shure tips won't fit (except de-cored Olives). That leaves you with the Meelec fit kit - a bit pricy for the big (M11+) one but worth it if you really want some tips to play with. The short and long bi-flanges both work for me on the MTPG/MTPC though I prefer the gray M9 "balanced" biflanges to the thicker ones that come with the M11+.

post #755 of 16803

2 things:

 

1-DBAs laid back?  Hmm, I suspect other issues not related to ears being different.

 

2-Golds better than the M50?  Wow, I like the Golds, Coppers and MDs but better than the M50?  Again, I suspect issues.

 

If you can, pick up some Meelec M11+ tips.  The whole set will be great for the Golds and any or all dynamic driver IEMs you may hear in the future w/ the same size aperture. 

post #756 of 16803

@ james & IjokerI, Thanks for the input. may be i have to wait other model realese to make the updgrade worted. 

 

@ anaxilus, Yes DBA02 more laid back in vocal compare to PFE. except you try to put the left side in the right ears and vice versa


Edited by kantongkresek - 9/13/10 at 10:06pm
post #757 of 16803

^ Watch this thread. I just got the Final Audio Design FI-BA-SB and from first impressions they are very similar to the e-Q7 with a bit more treble extension and energy. They are also similarly priced, so maybe they'll turn out being the better choice for treble lovers.

post #758 of 16803

The FA-SB-A1 is a bit more laid back up top than the SB, but both are excellent. You are right about fit: they fit deeper than Ortofon eQ7.

post #759 of 16803

Thanks for the input |joker|. I may indeed try one of the MEelec fit kits sometime. But I actually found out the pure foam tips work best for me now, because foam always fits...
 

Quote:
Originally Posted by Anaxilus View Post

2-Golds better than the M50?  Wow, I like the Golds, Coppers and MDs but better than the M50?  Again, I suspect issues.


Yes indeed, to my ears at least. I listed to a song with a nice beat with the Golds about 3 times in a row. I then quickly switched to the M50 right before the chorus so I could hear a difference.

 

What I found was that the Golds had a MUCH thicker sound that the M50. The M50 sounded a bit hollow, the bass wasn't as good, and I think I may have finally heard and distinguished a bit of sibilance for the first time. (I've never heard sibilance before, well not where I could actually distinguish it).

post #760 of 16803
Quote:
Originally Posted by Katun View Post

Thanks for the input |joker|. I may indeed try one of the MEelec fit kits sometime. But I actually found out the pure foam tips work best for me now, because foam always fits...
 


Yes indeed, to my ears at least. I listed to a song with a nice beat with the Golds about 3 times in a row. I then quickly switched to the M50 right before the chorus so I could hear a difference.

 

What I found was that the Golds had a MUCH thicker sound that the M50. The M50 sounded a bit hollow, the bass wasn't as good, and I think I may have finally heard and distinguished a bit of sibilance for the first time. (I've never heard sibilance before, well not where I could actually distinguish it).


That sounds like a source/amp issue w/ the M50 being underdriven perhaps.  I will say w/ the right tips and the Golds plugged in closer to your brain they can really pound out deep, full bass.

post #761 of 16803

it's not that hard to drive the M50 however although the M50 being hollow with bad bass doesn't exactly describe them.

post #762 of 16803
Quote:
Originally Posted by rawrster View Post

it's not that hard to drive the M50 however although the M50 being hollow with bad bass doesn't exactly describe them.


Sure, it is not hard to drive the M50.  The question is how well they sound driven by a Clip+ or the like.  Half of my IEMs don't get driven properly from it IMO, let alone the M50.  I mean lets be real about driving 40-50mm drivers from certain DAPs.  It would certainly be expected that an IEM should sound better from an underpowered source than a full sized headphone.  I only mentioned because its not at all how the M50 sounds to me or many others.

post #763 of 16803

Well that depends on if they have an amp in between :) I probably wouldn't pair a headphone with my clip+ however and if someone is doing that they are a bit too optimistic.

post #764 of 16803

I've just noticed something odd... the CK10 are £249.99 in the UK, haven't seen anyone selling locally below that. The CK100, only available through import, come to ~ $430, which is ~£275. So if for some reason you didn't want to save £50+ by buying the CK10 from somewhere outside of the UK, there's only a £25 discrepancy between the two.

This is bad, I'm suddenly considering that I might possibly afford the CK100 one day. Stupid UK prices...

post #765 of 16803

I was using the M50 off my iAudio 7.

 

And no, they didn't have bad bass, I just thought the Golds was better. It's like the perfect mix of depth, presence, and quality.

 

M50 did sound a bit hollow compared to the Golds, as did ALL my headphones. The Golds just have this super thick sound that I actually really enjoy.

 

(By the way, I'm sending my M50's back, so I can't compare them anymore)

New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
Head-Fi.org › Forums › Equipment Forums › Portable Headphones, Earphones and In-Ear Monitors › Multi-IEM Review - 352 IEMs compared (Pump Audio Earphones added 04/03/16 p. 1106)