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post #6286 of 16802

Joker,

after recieving the HiSound Crystal, I am amazed at how small an IEM can be, and am interested in knowing more about these kind of small but competent IEM's....

Any suggestion? All I know about is my HS Crystal, the Q-Jays, and Philips SHE3580, any other interestingly small IEM with good SQ?

post #6287 of 16802

Is the review for the Ultimate Ears 600 going to be out anytime soon because i am considering to buy it.

 

and among these: UE 600, A-jays Three and the klipsch S4. Which is the best?

post #6288 of 16802
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Originally Posted by Xinn3r View Post

Joker,

after recieving the HiSound Crystal, I am amazed at how small an IEM can be, and am interested in knowing more about these kind of small but competent IEM's....

Any suggestion? All I know about is my HS Crystal, the Q-Jays, and Philips SHE3580, any other interestingly small IEM with good SQ?

The Sony XBA-1 comes out soon (in the US), has gotten solid initial feedback, and looks absolutely tiny.

post #6289 of 16802
Thread Starter 


 

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Originally Posted by Xinn3r View Post

Joker,

after recieving the HiSound Crystal, I am amazed at how small an IEM can be, and am interested in knowing more about these kind of small but competent IEM's....

Any suggestion? All I know about is my HS Crystal, the Q-Jays, and Philips SHE3580, any other interestingly small IEM with good SQ?


Golden Crystals, most of the other TWFK-based sets (UE700, VSonic GR01, Nocs NS800, ATH-CK10, DBA-02 mkII), Monster MD Trumpets, Klipsch X10, Ety HF5, ACS T15


 

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Originally Posted by prosay View Post

Is the review for the Ultimate Ears 600 going to be out anytime soon because i am considering to buy it.

 

and among these: UE 600, A-jays Three and the klipsch S4. Which is the best?


After finding out that there are two versions of the UE700, I am not certain that the SF5 I had is identical in sound to the newer UE600 but either way they would easily be my pick over the S4 unless you were after the S4's v-shaped sound. I have not heard the a-JAYS but I'd pick the UEs over the t-JAYS.

 



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Originally Posted by vwinter View Post


The Sony XBA-1 comes out soon (in the US), has gotten solid initial feedback, and looks absolutely tiny.


It looks tiny next to the other XBA sets, especially the gargantuan XBA-4, but it's pretty much par for the course as far as single-BA sets go (BA drivers are typically pretty small). 

 

post #6290 of 16802

Joker I've been reading your SM3 review, over and over, drooling, for about the last 6 months (and had read it the first time about a year prior) while trying to find something else that could sound similar but cost less, and I've worked my way up the price bracket from the Shure SE215, to the Klipsch X10, EPH100, W3, and most recently ASG-1, until caving/finding a good deal on the SM3, and they are indeed the end of the IEM road for me. I have never heard an IEM and so quickly felt sure that I liked it, not even the Shure SE215. The SM3 is just so full and grand sounding, pianos and full and immediate and gorgeous, the soundstage is big without being obnoxious, the bass is PERFECT for me in quantity...I can't imagine a presentation that is more ideal for my taste. It's because of your description that I've finally arrived at the SM3, and every word you say about it is true to a T. It happens to be the final solution for me.

 

I am mostly leaving head-fi now, except to chat with a few people I've gotten to know and help people outside the US get their hands on gear at something that resembles a reasonable price :P but I have to say, in my hours and days on end of browsing head-fi, bored at work or at home relaxing, I have read this thread probably more than anything and everything else combined, and not for no reason. I think many people, myself included, probably take the scope of this thread for granted, given that it IS the internet and we've learned to expect that SOMEONE will do just about ANYTHING at some point, but this thread is a really incredible accomplishment and compilation of knowledge. It may sound cheesy, but this thread, in a way, exemplifies the best of what the internet has offer us: accessible, condensed knowledge.

 

And so for that, I say thank you, |joker|. I may not know you, and I'm sure very few, if any, people here on head-fi truly do, but you've taken the time to do an enormous service for every single one of us, and even if that's not your sole motivation, it is beautiful in its own way. At least to me.

 

So, thank you beerchug.gif  and happy listening.

post #6291 of 16802
Amen to that! Reviewing close to 300 IEMs on one‘s own time is truly an incredible feat.smily_headphones1.gif
post #6292 of 16802
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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post


Golden Crystals, most of the other TWFK-based sets (UE700, VSonic GR01, Nocs NS800, ATH-CK10, DBA-02 mkII), Monster MD Trumpets, Klipsch X10, Ety HF5, ACS T15

 



What's TWFK short of? I know it's a Knowles based armature design, but I can't seem to find what it stands for....

Also, are the HS Crystals and Golden Crystals TWFK-based too???

post #6293 of 16802
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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post

Dual armature, Knowles TWFK in fact. Listening to them right now - they are good, very good. Closer to DBA-02/CK10 in performance than UE700/Phiaton PS200/q-JAYS but with a less bright signature compared to most TWFK-based phones. I've only A:B'd them vs the UE700 and they were the clear winner for me, though admittedly they cost significantly more.

 


Better than the GR07s, or a sidegrade? 

post #6294 of 16802
Thread Starter 

 

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Originally Posted by Gilly87 View Post

Joker I've been reading your SM3 review, over and over, drooling, for about the last 6 months (and had read it the first time about a year prior) while trying to find something else that could sound similar but cost less, and I've worked my way up the price bracket from the Shure SE215, to the Klipsch X10, EPH100, W3, and most recently ASG-1, until caving/finding a good deal on the SM3, and they are indeed the end of the IEM road for me. I have never heard an IEM and so quickly felt sure that I liked it, not even the Shure SE215. The SM3 is just so full and grand sounding, pianos and full and immediate and gorgeous, the soundstage is big without being obnoxious, the bass is PERFECT for me in quantity...I can't imagine a presentation that is more ideal for my taste. It's because of your description that I've finally arrived at the SM3, and every word you say about it is true to a T. It happens to be the final solution for me.

 

I am mostly leaving head-fi now, except to chat with a few people I've gotten to know and help people outside the US get their hands on gear at something that resembles a reasonable price :P but I have to say, in my hours and days on end of browsing head-fi, bored at work or at home relaxing, I have read this thread probably more than anything and everything else combined, and not for no reason. I think many people, myself included, probably take the scope of this thread for granted, given that it IS the internet and we've learned to expect that SOMEONE will do just about ANYTHING at some point, but this thread is a really incredible accomplishment and compilation of knowledge. It may sound cheesy, but this thread, in a way, exemplifies the best of what the internet has offer us: accessible, condensed knowledge.

 

And so for that, I say thank you, |joker|. I may not know you, and I'm sure very few, if any, people here on head-fi truly do, but you've taken the time to do an enormous service for every single one of us, and even if that's not your sole motivation, it is beautiful in its own way. At least to me.

 

So, thank you beerchug.gif  and happy listening.




Great, very glad that you like the SM3! I know no review can really tell you how something sounds but knowing approximately what you're getting into (hopefully) helps. I took quite some time to warm up to the SM3, personally. 



 

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Originally Posted by Xinn3r View Post



What's TWFK short of? I know it's a Knowles based armature design, but I can't seem to find what it stands for....

Also, are the HS Crystals and Golden Crystals TWFK-based too???


Well, the FK is a single armature model designation (not sure where that driver is used - it's quite small) and I'm guessing the 'TW' stands for 'twin'.

 

Crystals and Golden Crystals are dynamic. There are other IEMs that use dynamic microdrivers (<6mm) - the Monster MD Tributes, JVC FXT/FXC-series, MEElec CC51s, etc.



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Originally Posted by 50an6xy06r6n View Post


Better than the GR07s, or a sidegrade? 

 

Not sure yet but realistically most if not all universals may be but a sidegrade from the GR07 depending on preferences, tolerance to the treble spikes, etc.
 

 

post #6295 of 16802

Hi :D! New here, but this looks like a great thread for recommendations! I'm starting my IEM journey, and was hoping you could give me a top 5 list or something to start off with. What IEMs in the $300 and under category have the most 3-D like presentation, and most accurate detail? I don't exactly know all the Head-Fi terms yet :/. But I think I like instrument separation and layering, and being able to see and visualize the different, individual sounds. I also like hearing every detail, and like voices to sound realistic. Thanks!!! :)

post #6296 of 16802
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Originally Posted by sarahbear View Post

Hi :D! New here, but this looks like a great thread for recommendations! I'm starting my IEM journey, and was hoping you could give me a top 5 list or something to start off with. What IEMs in the $300 and under category have the most 3-D like presentation, and most accurate detail? I don't exactly know all the Head-Fi terms yet :/. But I think I like instrument separation and layering, and being able to see and visualize the different, individual sounds. I also like hearing every detail, and like voices to sound realistic. Thanks!!! :)


A good first place to look would be ljokerl's IEM review thread, which has a pretty exhaustive list of the IEMs out there, and ranks them really nicely, though you'll need to read the reviews for more details. 

Off the top of my head though, some good contenders are the GR07, e-Q5, RE272, SM2, ER4, EX600, and CK10. Note that this is mostly based on SQ and the detail-oriented side, as I don't know too much about their soundstaging abilities, except that the GR07 lacks a bit in depth. Go check out that thread and come back when you have more specific questions, perhaps.

post #6297 of 16802
This IS ljokerl‘s IEM review thread tongue.gif
post #6298 of 16802

Joker, have you ever had the chance to hear the Yamaha EPH-100?

If so, how well can you describe the SQ? What is it on par with?

post #6299 of 16802
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Originally Posted by 50an6xy06r6n View Post


A good first place to look would be ljokerl's IEM review thread, which has a pretty exhaustive list of the IEMs out there, and ranks them really nicely, though you'll need to read the reviews for more details. 

Off the top of my head though, some good contenders are the GR07, e-Q5, RE272, SM2, ER4, EX600, and CK10. Note that this is mostly based on SQ and the detail-oriented side, as I don't know too much about their soundstaging abilities, except that the GR07 lacks a bit in depth. Go check out that thread and come back when you have more specific questions, perhaps.



I actually did read most of his post thread, but it's a bit overwhelming lol. I picked out a few, and was actually looking at the um3x, sm3, ex1000, fx700, AGS-1, and e-Q5. I was also looking at the ER4 and CK10, and they seemed perfect, except the fact they're bass light :/. I don't really want them to be bass light. And not too bloated either! I like deep detailed bass as I listen to bass heavy music, but would prefer the 3-D imaging thing if it came down to the 2 criteria. :)

 

As you can see, there's a lot of choices, and I don't even know if they're fully suited for what I want (as I don't really understand the difference between soundstage, imaging, separation, layering, 3-D presentation, etc.) So I just wanted to explain the sound I wanted to Joker, and see if he could rank the top suggestions for me. :)

 

Thanks anyways for the response and suggestions! I'll have to check some of the other ones out.

post #6300 of 16802
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Originally Posted by Joe Bloggs View Post

This IS ljokerl‘s IEM review thread tongue.gif


Oh boy, do I feel silly... I seem to be getting all my threads mixed up... For some reason I thought the question was directed at me...

 

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