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post #616 of 16802

Yep, the UM3X is a peculiar tool.  I've owned it twice and sold it twice for the same reason.  It has been one of my favorite and poorly fitting earphones I've owned.  I have come to see it more as a tool than a musical device.  I guess that could be a good thing in some lights.  I feel it does some things better than anything else out there.  The lack of realism made me sell it twice.  I came to the conclusion that one of the most important factors for an earphone is to sound real.  There should be a lifelike sense to the music, well enough to be believable.  So few earphones are actually really good about this.  Many present music well.  Few sound real.  I've held onto my OK1 buds for so long for just this reason.  I also valued the CK10 a lot because it offers a very real sound.  The SE530 I had did too although the notes were presented too thinly, well short, so it's more of a ghostly realism that just didn't carry the the raw power and energy.  Again, this is one thing I love about the OK1.  It's aggressive, raw, and the energy is just there.  There's inertia to the sound, a believable amount, the level you'd expect from the real life sound.  I wish more earphones had this sense.

post #617 of 16802

Congratulations on hitting 100!  I'm in awe at how you've managed to average 20 IEM reviews a month for the five months this thread has been existence.  Truly remarkable!

 

I'm certainly looking forward to the next 100.  In the near-term, your plan to review what is essentially the rest of the Ultimate Ears universal IEM lineup seems to be the most interesting.  I'm sure many have been pestering begging you to post your thoughts on the TripleFi.


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post #618 of 16802
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Originally Posted by mark2410 View Post

well what made me surprised was the coppers inability to retain clarity when thing got busy.  that isnt a preference issue that for me was just a failing


Unfortunately that's a characteristic shared by all three Turbine earphones. I don't think it's as drastic as you make it sound but they can't track large pieces for beans.



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Originally Posted by mvw2 View Post

Yep, the UM3X is a peculiar tool.  I've owned it twice and sold it twice for the same reason.  It has been one of my favorite and poorly fitting earphones I've owned.  I have come to see it more as a tool than a musical device.  I guess that could be a good thing in some lights.  I feel it does some things better than anything else out there.  The lack of realism made me sell it twice.  I came to the conclusion that one of the most important factors for an earphone is to sound real.  There should be a lifelike sense to the music, well enough to be believable.  So few earphones are actually really good about this.  Many present music well.  Few sound real.  I've held onto my OK1 buds for so long for just this reason.  I also valued the CK10 a lot because it offers a very real sound.  The SE530 I had did too although the notes were presented too thinly, well short, so it's more of a ghostly realism that just didn't carry the the raw power and energy.  Again, this is one thing I love about the OK1.  It's aggressive, raw, and the energy is just there.  There's inertia to the sound, a believable amount, the level you'd expect from the real life sound.  I wish more earphones had this sense.


Agreed, and please forward this to Yuin. They really need to make an OK1 with a usable IEM form factor. Even the Yamaha EPH-20 form factor will do for me.
 

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Congratulations on hitting 100!  I'm in awe at how you've managed to average 20 IEM reviews a month for the five months this thread has been existence.  Truly remarkable!

 

I'm certainly looking forward to the next 100.  In the near-term, your plan to review what is essentially the rest of the Ultimate Ears universal IEM lineup seems to be the most interesting.  I'm sure many have been pestering begging you to post your thoughts on the TripleFi.


Well, as much as I'd like to claim the superhuman ability to review 20 IEMs per month for five months running, I have to admit that this thread was created because my old thread ran into the old head-fi's post content limits. The original multi-iem review was started in November so it's more like 10 months in total .

 

And you're right - the TF10 is easily my most-postponed earphone. I've had it since I started the original thread so I've essentially been putting off its write-up for 10 months. But to review the rest of UE's lineup and skip the TF10 would be a crime (and probably one not so easily forgiven by all of you guys at that) so I'm bound to get it done now.

post #619 of 16802
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Originally Posted by mark2410 View Post

well what made me surprised was the coppers inability to retain clarity when thing got busy.  that isnt a preference issue that for me was just a failing


Unfortunately that's a characteristic shared by all three Turbine earphones. I don't think it's as drastic as you make it sound but they can't track large pieces for beans.


 


oh yeah its something i definitely grade harshly for, prominent treble and beginning to break up just gets scratchy and abusive to my ears.  if they had lost clarity and begun to just hide the treble that would have been far less offensive to me.  keeping it there and just making it more and more coarse was just like waiting till i have a head ache then poking me with a stick.

post #620 of 16802

I'm a bit late to the 100th review celebration party, but congrats anyway on hitting the 100 milestone!  You da man!  

post #621 of 16802

yea joker

you da man!

post #622 of 16802

just wanted to point out that the pl-30's now come with a right angle plug and the cables very similar to the pl-50's(i have both) 

 

post #623 of 16802

Congrats on the 100th IEM review. Waiting eagerly for your review on TF10, hopefully soon :)

post #624 of 16802

Hey joker just wanted to say thanks for this amazing thread and all that you have contributed the community. Also, the ck10 loan may have exposed me to my ideal and final iem. 

post #625 of 16802

Well averaging 10 or so and having a portable headphone review thread at the same time is indeed impressive :P Although your wallet might not have been too impressed..

 

@SolidSnake3: I thought the same way about the CK10 until I got into customs and now I'm saving up for some more expensive customs. The CK10 is great however and I do wish I still had it but needed to sell it to fund stuff. If I can get a good price on them I may buy them again but they are the one sale I do somewhat regret.

post #626 of 16802
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I'm a bit late to the 100th review celebration party, but congrats anyway on hitting the 100 milestone!  You da man!  

 

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Originally Posted by 2rooi123 View Post

yea joker

you da man!


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Congrats on the 100th IEM review. Waiting eagerly for your review on TF10, hopefully soon :)


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Hey joker just wanted to say thanks for this amazing thread and all that you have contributed the community. Also, the ck10 loan may have exposed me to my ideal and final iem. 


Thanks, everyone. Much appreciated 
 

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just wanted to point out that the pl-30's now come with a right angle plug and the cables very similar to the pl-50's(i have both) 

 

 

Thanks, I've been meaning to update this for a long time. Soundmagic changed the cabling on the PL30 around the same time the PL21 was released, which is close to a year ago now. I'll get it done 

post #627 of 16802
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Well averaging 10 or so and having a portable headphone review thread at the same time is indeed impressive :P Although your wallet might not have been too impressed..

 

@SolidSnake3: I thought the same way about the CK10 until I got into customs and now I'm saving up for some more expensive customs. The CK10 is great however and I do wish I still had it but needed to sell it to fund stuff. If I can get a good price on them I may buy them again but they are the one sale I do somewhat regret.

for me customs regardless of price will, for the most part, never really be a good option because of my other hobby's outside of audio. I enjoy bjj and mma which along with wrestling are a great way to end up with Cauliflower Ear meaning that any sort of customs probably won't last long without a refit. Even as it is I notice occasional changes in my ears on a monthly basis and at that rate the amount of refits needed would be staggering. 

 

As a result either the ck10's or W3's after I test those will be my final iem for a long, long time. Unless some sort of universal comes out that is somehow leaps and bounds better than any of the current top tier I don't see myself changing once I find that ideal sound signature for me *ck10 or W3*
 

post #628 of 16802

I guess it doesn't make sense for you but I'm not planning on doing that anytime soon and well I don't have the time for it even if I wanted to. I didn't spend much on mine so it's not as bad although I do wish I had the CK10 still but my Eterna seems to fit the bill although nowhere close to my preferred signature. The Zero aren't slouches either.

 

Choosing between the CK10 and W3 is pretty interesting? Why those two? If it was CK10 or e-Q7 it would be more understandable since those are closer in signature than that and W3.

post #629 of 16802
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I guess it doesn't make sense for you but I'm not planning on doing that anytime soon and well I don't have the time for it even if I wanted to. I didn't spend much on mine so it's not as bad although I do wish I had the CK10 still but my Eterna seems to fit the bill although nowhere close to my preferred signature. The Zero aren't slouches either.

 

Choosing between the CK10 and W3 is pretty interesting? Why those two? If it was CK10 or e-Q7 it would be more understandable since those are closer in signature than that and W3.

 


Well I know the 2 choices seem odd as they are quite different iem's however what I have found is that in the Coppers I missed some of the detail of the ck10's. The Coppers just were not as clear and detailed as the ck10's. Also, the Coppers gave me odd fit issues every now and then, I would get a good few days and than bad one's where I just couldn't shake the feeling that there was something foreign in my ears. With the ck10's I got a wonderful fit every time and they totally vanished in my ears, the sound was just there. They were just about perfect but lacked a bit of "fun" to me.

 

Anyhow, the reason the W3's are in there is that fit wise I'm pretty sure they will be just as comfortable as the ck10's. Also, I have read that they have great detail and are more clear/detailed than the Coppers. Also, I do enjoy some fun and bass every now and then so I figure that sound signature might be nice. 

 

I should be able to listen to a pair in a few days and from there make my decision 

 

I get that their sound signature are quite different, ck10 vs. W3 and I won't really know which I prefer until I hear the W3 I guess...

post #630 of 16802

We need to get some 535s into the hand of Joker :D

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