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post #5971 of 16803

Seems about right on the score. Never tried the Monoprice but some of the other recent budget phones, the Xeport 5010, Thermaltake Isurus, and the Philips 3580. The CC51 and Xeport 5010 are about equal so a 7.7 score there. I said the Isurus could get an 8 or even more on the Joker scale though I don't subscribe to the AT driver thing(Isurus are a little older than the AT). Dsnuts saying the Philips are better then the Mono's and the Isurus are better still puts the scores right at those levels.  ~$15 gets you near an 8 on the current scale. A year or so ago ~$15 got you an M9 or M6 on sale and you got 5.3 and 5.7.

 

Maybe there is a 9.5 phone out there for $20-$30. That is why some of still play on all the levels. It is fun and there is that holy grail out there somewhere:)

post #5972 of 16803
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Originally Posted by jant71 View Post

Seems about right on the score. Never tried the Monoprice but some of the other recent budget phones, the Xeport 5010, Thermaltake Isurus, and the Philips 3580. The CC51 and Xeport 5010 are about equal so a 7.7 score there. I said the Isurus could get an 8 or even more on the Joker scale though I don't subscribe to the AT driver thing(Isurus are a little older than the AT). Dsnuts saying the Philips are better then the Mono's and the Isurus are better still puts the scores right at those levels.  ~$15 gets you near an 8 on the current scale. A year or so ago ~$15 got you an M9 or M6 on sale and you got 5.3 and 5.7.

 

Maybe there is a 9.5 phone out there for $20-$30. That is why some of still play on all the levels. It is fun and there is that holy grail out there somewhere:)


It's all subjective, I would put the monos above the philips myself but i wouldn't put them above the proalpha that only scored 6.7. Mind you I don't have many hours on the monos, not that I subscribe to burn in much anyway. The main point is the monos are a great find and dsnuts should take a bow....nothing comes near them for the price.
post #5973 of 16803

Yep, it is certainly subjective esp. when the phones are quite close in performance. I like my Panny HJE180 better than the Philips as well which Dsnuts doesn't though that is preference. I think the Philips would score higher but I sold them in favor of the HJE180. Just shows that the scores/SQ levels of these phones are really a bit better than people are thinking preference aside. In another thread, Inks just posted the statement that the Brookstone Clears are "by a fair margin" the best bang for buck. That and the surprise at Joker's score of the Monoprice show some people still aren't taking these budget phones seriously. Something like the Xeport 5010 is clearly a better bargain than the Brookstone and I started the Brookstone thread!

post #5974 of 16803
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Originally Posted by NuckinFutz View Post

Great review Joker!  They really are super smooth, the only negative thought I have is the timbre is off IMO but can't complain......for me they are a 10 for value all day!


I agree, the timbre is off to my ears as well. Not a big deal for $7 and there's plenty of pricier sets that have worse. 

 



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Originally Posted by Mironov View Post

Does MEElectronics A151 sound good with metal and dubstep?


I don't think so. Probably not enough bass for dubstep and not enough treble energy to portray metal properly.

 



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Originally Posted by RealSlimSeto View Post

Great review as always.

 

Thanks!

 




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Originally Posted by Sweden View Post

Any ideas for something with mic and ipod controlls that is good with well produces electronic music, pop, rock and jazz and have great build quality under 150?


Westone T1, Shure SE215 + mic accessory, Beyer MMX 101 iE depending on the sound signature you want. All three are pretty good all-rounders, with the Beyers being the bassiest and the Westones - the most balanced/mid-centric. I think all of these have single-button remotes except the Shures.



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Originally Posted by Gryphus0204 View Post

On amazon there are a few review saying the cable is stiff and breaks easily, also turning green After a while.... Should these be a concern? As I'm planning to buy it for myself maybe a few months later


For which product?

 



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Thanks that is exactly what I was thinking, going with the E30.

 

But quick question I noticed you put the Monoprice 8320 sound rating at 7.5 and the E30 has a 6.9 rating, is the Monoprice iem sound really better than the E30?

 

 


To me it does (with the best possible fit) - better bass control, bit more clarity, less grain, and wider soundstage albeit with poorer depth. I would still recommend the Soundmagics though if you can afford them.

 



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Originally Posted by ravefire View Post

Are the numbers you give weighted? Or in other words, are you saying that (despite the very different sound signature) the Monoprice's are, in your opinion, roughly on par with Monster Turbines? I don't really use the numbers too much but I was just curious about that.


The numbers are not weighted so yes, I think the Monoprice are roughly on-par with Turbines. Each will do some things better than the other.

 



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Originally Posted by Flahbah View Post
Thank you for all your help for a audio newbie like me beerchug.gif After reading your review of the FXT90 and various others it sounds perfect for what I'm after, went ahead and ordered them from accessoryjack as someone already snapped up those used Sennheisers!

 


Sure thing, hope you like them!

 



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Originally Posted by kmhaynes View Post

I'm very sure the Monoproce earphone is the ONLY IEM in |joker|'s list that has a SQ value (7.5/10) that is higher than it's cost in US dollars ($7)!!!  If only the cable weren't so attrocious. 

 

I didn't care for the extremely open build, so I stuffed some small bits of hose/stocking into the ports on the inside body below the nozzle -- bass punch and clarity has gone up, and the overall focus is much better -- even for $7.  I'm also using the small size 3-flange eartips from MEElec; otherwise I have a hard time getting a good seal, as they rotate/swivel too much; the 3-flange tip goes deeper and stabalizes the movement, and gives me a good seal and clear sound everytime.



That's a fun factoid. 

 

I can get a stable fit with them using foam tips and putting the housings with the cable exit bulges pointing upward/slightly forward, then looping the cable over-the-ear and tightening it at chin level with a homemade cable cinch. The ridges still hurt my ears after 1-2 hours though.



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Originally Posted by jant71 View Post

Seems about right on the score. Never tried the Monoprice but some of the other recent budget phones, the Xeport 5010, Thermaltake Isurus, and the Philips 3580. The CC51 and Xeport 5010 are about equal so a 7.7 score there. I said the Isurus could get an 8 or even more on the Joker scale though I don't subscribe to the AT driver thing(Isurus are a little older than the AT). Dsnuts saying the Philips are better then the Mono's and the Isurus are better still puts the scores right at those levels.  ~$15 gets you near an 8 on the current scale. A year or so ago ~$15 got you an M9 or M6 on sale and you got 5.3 and 5.7.

 

Maybe there is a 9.5 phone out there for $20-$30. That is why some of still play on all the levels. It is fun and there is that holy grail out there somewhere:)


I got the SHE3580 as well and I am far, far less impressed with it than the Monoprice. In comparison to the MEP-933 it sounds just like a cheap IEM should - boomy, grainy, harsh, poor treble extension, small soundstage, etc. 

 

post #5975 of 16803
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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post

 

To me it does (with the best possible fit) - better bass control, bit more clarity, less grain, and wider soundstage albeit with poorer depth. I would still recommend the Soundmagics though if you can afford them.

 



Thanks still plan on getting the E30 (actually ordered early today) but was curious about those Monoprices, they get alot of praise on here.

 

Hopefully you get to test out the Audio-Technica ATH-CKM50 too (another $30 IEM getting alot of praise), curious how they would fair in your ranking system. 


Edited by boost3d - 2/13/12 at 12:48pm
post #5976 of 16803

I must say I'm surprised @ the Monoprice scoring so high. I figured that Monoprice thread was just a hype machine. Guess I'll have to give this a try then.

post #5977 of 16803
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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post


I got the SHE3580 as well and I am far, far less impressed with it than the Monoprice. In comparison to the MEP-933 it sounds just like a cheap IEM should - boomy, grainy, harsh, poor treble extension, small soundstage, etc. 

 


Yep same as.  They sound quite good with EDM but are very V-shaped and the soundstage is ultra narrow.

 

post #5978 of 16803
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Originally Posted by Fimbulvetr View Post

I must say I'm surprised @ the Monoprice scoring so high. I figured that Monoprice thread was just a hype machine. Guess I'll have to give this a try then.


It's not going to break the bank tongue_smile.gif

 

post #5979 of 16803

How does the monoprice MEP-933's sound signature compare with Etymotic's?

I couldn't get a good fit with the monoprice, and sounded very airy and lacking in bass - which is how I always imagined Ety would sound (but never actually experienced).

post #5980 of 16803

^ The Monoprice 933 is fairly balanced as a dynamic earphone, with a warmer, fuller, more musical and slightly wider sound than the Ety house sound.  And while it sounds pretty clear, it falls a good bit behind the Ety, esp ER4, in terms of details and calrity, as you would expect.  But comparing $7 vs $299, the Monoprice is a wonder of an earphone!

 

The very open build of the housing is what led me to clog up the ports with some very slightly porous material, which closed it in some and tightened and deepened the bass.

 

The Etymotic HF5 and ER4 both have good bass response, especially clarity and extension, but just not the fullness, body and some impact that is typical with most dynamic drivers.


Edited by kmhaynes - 2/13/12 at 3:04pm
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La Yamaha sembra interessante - i loro modelli di fascia bassa non sono terribili, ma chiaramente sintonizzati per un suono mainstream. L'EPH-100 sembra certamente diversa. Suppongo che tu li avrebbe messi al di sopra dei FXT90s.

 


 

 

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Yea I think they sound a bit better than the FXT90's.  They have more detail and better bass in quality and quantity, also the mids are one of the best I've heard in a under $200 IEM.  

 



 

Wow!
 
 I took a look at thread relative and it seems from the comments that are used primarily for genre ' Hypnos '; he expressly says that are not suitable for listening to classical music and lack of tremble.
 
 I was attracted, but all these limitations I have dismissed.

 

As soon as ordered. smile.gif

 

This is what has prompted me to do so. I hope deadhorse.gif....biggrin.gif.....beerchug.gif

 


Edited by joe it - 2/13/12 at 3:18pm
post #5982 of 16803
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As soon as ordered. smile.gif

 

This is what has prompted me to do so. I hope deadhorse.gif....biggrin.gif.....beerchug.gif

 


Hope they work out for you.  I myself much prefer the FXT90 over them.

 

post #5983 of 16803

There is really something that is going for the dynamic drivers. I still like how my Sony Fontopias sound today. I bought more than 10yrs ago, and nowadays DDIEMs are selling 10x cheaper but the performance as we can see from joker's list is very competitive.

Hooray for DDs! :D

post #5984 of 16803

Great review! :D

post #5985 of 16803
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Originally Posted by jjmai View Post

How does the monoprice MEP-933's sound signature compare with Etymotic's?

I couldn't get a good fit with the monoprice, and sounded very airy and lacking in bass - which is how I always imagined Ety would sound (but never actually experienced).


If you compare them side by side they're actually pretty different. Etys generally have better soundstage width than depth, like the Monoprice, but they don't sound this open, have some semblance of imaging, and generally tend towards a much more analytical/clinical presentation - very fast attack/decay times, high levels of detail, cooler tonality, etc.


 

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Originally Posted by kmhaynes View Post

^ The Monoprice 933 is fairly balanced as a dynamic earphone, with a warmer, fuller, more musical and slightly wider sound than the Ety house sound.  And while it sounds pretty clear, it falls a good bit behind the Ety, esp ER4, in terms of details and calrity, as you would expect.  But comparing $7 vs $299, the Monoprice is a wonder of an earphone!

 

[..]

 

The Etymotic HF5 and ER4 both have good bass response, especially clarity and extension, but just not the fullness, body and some impact that is typical with most dynamic drivers.

 

+1
 

 



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Originally Posted by ronnel0918 View Post

Great review! :D



Thanks!

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