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post #496 of 16803

I was eagerly awaiting your CK90PRO review.  Very interesting direction that AT has taken with that particular model, from the peculiar placement within the company's lineup to its more monitor-like presentation.  I'm a bit unsure of whether I'll enjoy their sound signature, but their lower price in Japan (around $150) will probably force me to keep an eye on them.

 

I'd also love to see some AKGs (and some of the other makes you mentioned) in your review.  I've been intrigued by them, particularly the K370, but they're a bit too expensive here in the US for me to try sound unheard.

 

Also, my two cents regarding the continuation of the review: I'll just say that time spent segmenting or splitting the review is time better spent listening to headphones and/or reviewing them.

 

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Originally Posted by tacomn View Post

the iem market right now seems to be changing in front of my eyes and just O so exhilarating


These are quite exciting times for the headphone forum poster... I mean headphone listener.


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post #497 of 16803
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Originally Posted by rawrster View Post

The M6 is indeed good for workouts and such now that their memory wire isn't so difficult to move. First their cables are very good and not just very good for the price but very good regardless of price. They are cheap and have a memory wire which makes workouts and any physical activity a good choice for the M6. I'd use it for that but I like the sound of the PL30 better.

 


Hmm... good points. Microphonics need to be kept to a minimum when working out or it'll drive you crazy. Sitting still is one thing, but jammin' on a run or bike or treadmill... whatever, the last thing you want is cable sounds in your head.

 

Decent sound and not bank-breaking. I can see that.

 

shane
 

post #498 of 16803
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Originally Posted by shane55 View Post

Two surprises.

1) No DBA-02 mentioned. Any particular reason?

2) H20 Audio... really? I've never seen a review of them (never looked for one either), so I know ZERO about their sound, but nonetheless, kinda surprised.

 

And... lastly, what makes the M6 specific to workouts? (sorry if that's a really stupid question...)

 

Well, the DBA-02 wasn't mine so it really can't be one of my 'regulars', at least not anymore. If I had the choice I'd still use the CK10 as I prefer the sound by a hair and the build/form factor by a mile.

 

Perhaps I should have phrased what I said about the H2O buds differently... they are much better than I thought they would be given the 'enhanced bass' marketing buzzwords, mass-market slant, and the fact that they are waterproof. I think they actually keep up pretty well with 90% of the sub-$50 earphones I've heard and the ability to just rinse them off after returning home from my cycling trek is quite nice. 

 

Which brings me to the M6. Rawrster got most of it - no microphonics and very secure fit (quite Westone-like, actually, but with the added security of the memory wire) are the big factors. There's also the fact that they are 100% flush with my ears and unlike most earphones are not at all susceptible to wind noise, which is vital for cycling down the coastline. Also the isolation is just average, which means that I (probably) won't be hit by a car. Lastly, I feel that the slightly v-shaped sound signature is perfect for low-volume listening (again so that I won't be hit by a car) as it keeps them engaging but not distracting. Also I listen to a lot of trance/electronica during my workouts and the M6 are excellent for that.

 

 

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Originally Posted by kjk1281 View Post

I was eagerly awaiting your CK90PRO review.  Very interesting direction that AT has taken with that particular model, from the peculiar placement within the company's lineup to its more monitor-like presentation.  I'm a bit unsure of whether I'll enjoy their sound signature, but their lower price in Japan (around $150) will probably force me to keep an eye on them.

 

I'd also love to see some AKGs (and some of the other makes you mentioned) in your review.  I've been intrigued by them, particularly the K370, but they're a bit too expensive here in the US for me to try sound unheard.

 

Also, my two cents regarding the continuation of the review: I'll just say that time spent segmenting or splitting the review is time better spent listening to headphones and/or reviewing them.

 


I assume, then, that the CK10 is actually more expensive than the CK90Pro in Japan? That would make a lot more sense to me than the weird import-based pricing we have here that puts the CK90Pro in the same price category.

 

And thanks, the review will keep going, at least until I run out of earphones 

post #499 of 16803
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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post

I assume, then, that the CK10 is actually more expensive than the CK90Pro in Japan? That would make a lot more sense to me than the weird import-based pricing we have here that puts the CK90Pro in the same price category.

 

That seems to be the case.  The lowest price listed for the CK10 according to Kakaku.com is ¥20270, or about $230.

 

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And thanks, the review will keep going, at least until I run out of earphones 

 

Thankfully for me (and perhaps unfortunately for you), that's probably not happening anytime soon.

post #500 of 16803

^Don't forget that the m6 are relatively shallow insertion, which when combined with the over ear design negates any and all microphonics.

Also, the shallow fit, while providing decent isolation, lets you hear enough that they're almost safe for street use as well.

post #501 of 16803

Thanks to all who commented on the M6.

My E4c's have been my gym cans for years. On certain gym days I will wear the UM2 (just to mix it up a bit). Last few weeks, the SE535 (I've actually had them on almost everywhere) as I break them in and test them out. But that's just temporary. So I'm looking for something for when the E4c's give up the ghost... or just another set to switch out. I figure if I like the DBA-02 well enough I'll have them as my go-to gym cans.

But having inexpensive fall-back alternatives never hurts. 

 

Thanks again.

 

shane

post #502 of 16803

i definitely do not agree with the Re0 being higher on the list than the Eterna.  

post #503 of 16803

maybe you should make your own list then? 

post #504 of 16803

lol
 

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maybe you should make your own list then? 

post #505 of 16803
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Originally Posted by shane55 View Post

Thanks to all who commented on the M6.

My E4c's have been my gym cans for years. On certain gym days I will wear the UM2 (just to mix it up a bit). Last few weeks, the SE535 (I've actually had them on almost everywhere) as I break them in and test them out. But that's just temporary. So I'm looking for something for when the E4c's give up the ghost... or just another set to switch out. I figure if I like the DBA-02 well enough I'll have them as my go-to gym cans.

But having inexpensive fall-back alternatives never hurts. 

 

Thanks again.

 

shane

I'm not sure about the DBA-02 for the gym but then again you do use the E4 for the gym which is something I wouldn't have done when I owned them. I found their cables pretty heavy from regular use. Although back up choices is always a great thing. I have a couple backups if my main earphone ever gets damaged. I also have my M9 in case my PL30 goes back as well. If only I liked the M6 more than the M9 I would get the M6 to go alongside with thePL30.
 

post #506 of 16803

I use my Meelec M6 sport version while motorbiking. I know its not safe to wear earphones but these eaphones does not isolate much and I always keep the volume down. So I can hear the outside noise. They don't touch anything else under the helmet and you can forget about them while riding. Near zero microphonics... 

 

M6 is also my sleeping earphones. They dont touch my pillow and distract me...

 

For more critical listening and all the other times I preffer my Denon AH-C710. They are better in sq.

 

 IjokerI, do you close your eyes while you test these iems? Also are all the room conditions exactly the same while testing different earphones at different times? I appreciate what you're doing so please don't get me wrong, I just wanted to know your test procedure in more detail.

 

I am also planning to buy Fioo E5 amp with RE0 and I have a question, will I be gaining something sonically over the C710's (unamped)? Will the soundstage be wide enough to reach a C710 on the amped RE0? Will the bas be good enough to match the C710's? I have never heard RE0, and I have no opportunity listen them before ordering. So your valuable thaugths are wellcomed.

 

Thanks.

post #507 of 16803
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Originally Posted by rawrster View Post

I'm not sure about the DBA-02 for the gym but then again you do use the E4 for the gym which is something I wouldn't have done when I owned them. I found their cables pretty heavy from regular use. Although back up choices is always a great thing. I have a couple backups if my main earphone ever gets damaged. I also have my M9 in case my PL30 goes back as well. If only I liked the M6 more than the M9 I would get the M6 to go alongside with thePL30.
 


From the looks of things the DBA-02 cable looks similar (but maybe beefier) to the UM2. I like the UM2 for the gym as well, but the E4c cable is great as I use it: Durable, and heavy enough not to get all swinging on me and interfere. That's my main issue with the UM2 at the gym, it's light cable is all over the place...

 

The SE535 cable is marginally microphonic (very dependent on eartips), and a bit thick / stiff for the gym in the long haul.

So far I'm hearing that isolation is not #1 with the M6 (you, Baycode and others). Great for certain things. But at the gym I'm zoning out and really don't want to hear the disco being pumped into the place or the dropped weights or the whirring of the machines. I like it q-u-i-e-t. 

 

shane
 

post #508 of 16803
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Originally Posted by swbf2cheater View Post

i definitely do not agree with the Re0 being higher on the list than the Eterna.  


I don't even know how you can compare them. They are two vastly different IEMs made for different purposes and catering to opposing tastes. Very much apples and oranges. Both are fruit, and that's where the similarity ends.

post #509 of 16803

Good assessment of the q-jays. I generally agree with everything you say, but I would add that the lower mids are actually excellent on these IEMs - they are very rich, clear and detailed. Listen to some piano - it sounds fantastic on the q-jays! Too bad the upper mids are recessed and the treble is a bit harsh, otherwise these would've been superb.

post #510 of 16803

Yeah, Eterna vs RE0 is practically comparing an elephant and a giraffe and saying they're both living animals found in a zoo. They have a head, legs, tail, etc, but that's where the similarity ends.

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