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post #4831 of 16802

Hey Joker,

 

Since I got my SP-51's, I'm loving them!  I've been using the black plate and the bass is nice, deep, full and impactful.  The treble could be a tad more forward, but I'm mostly listening to drum and bass so it's ok.  My only complaint is it's time consuming getting a perfect seal with them.  Too far in or not far in enough I lose bass, and sometimes when I get a good seal, they need to be readjusted again if I'm moving around or exercising with them.

 

I just got a new Atrio X which hasn't burned in yet, but they are easier to get a seal with and stay in place even if I'm exercising with them.  But the bass isn't as deep and impactful as the SP-51's, although the sub-bass frequencies seem to be more cleanly separated.  I don't know if the bass will become deeper after burn-in as I've only listened to them for about 15 hours now.

 

I was wondering if you could recommend an upgrade to the SP-51's in terms of bass quantity and quality.  Is there anything deeper and more impactful and also stays put if I'm exercising?  I'd like an earphone that would be quite offensive to a non-basshead.  Smooth sound signature and non-fatiguing like the SP-51's.

 

In terms of pricing, I'd like it to be <$70.  Black Friday is coming up so I'm thinking earphones that normally go for $110 might work.  Is there anything that would be a MAJOR upgrade from the SP-51's or is everything just a minor upgrade at this point?  I was looking at the Munitio 9 MM billets, I think they're the cheaper versions of the SITi ones you reviewed before, but audio response graphs for both sets look identical.  They also come with earhooks which I hope keep them in place when I'm active.

 

EDIT:  Or should I look into an amp...maybe a ZO2?  My source right now is a Sony NWZ E354 mp3 player.


Edited by DnB Sublimity - 11/19/11 at 4:50pm
post #4832 of 16802
Thread Starter 


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Originally Posted by RealSlimSeto View Post

Hi joker, I'm back with my GR07s!

 

Right out of the box, I'm already enjoying them! So much more detailed than the Pro Coppers, and with better soundstage/imaging to boot.

 

The only thing is that sibilance is pretty bothersome right now, and the lower treble is spikey. Hopefully they change with burn in.


 

The sibilance will improve, though maybe not enough depending on how sensitive to it you are




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Originally Posted by bmeat View Post


i know what driver flex sounds like, on other headphones it used to make one side less loud until i broke the suction, and youd hear the driver kind of crackle. the sound on these actually cuts off and back on when i give them a push. maybe theyre designed to do this, becuase i dont think ba can have driver flex? this is what im most concerned about

 


No, there shouldn't be any driver flex and the sound shouldn't cut out unless you are using a long tip and sealing off your ear canal when you do that, nor should it sound worse than the SF4. The mids especially should be very strong and smooth and the soundstage should be pretty wide.

 

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Originally Posted by Krypt View Post

Would you say that out of the M6 and the M9, which one has a better value? Even though the prices are almost the same, I wonder which ends up being better. Especially in terms of comfort, i've heard many mixed reviews. 


If they are the same price I'd say the M6. A little less bass and the treble isn't as harsh. It is harder to get a good seal, though. The M9 is very straightforward in fit - pretty much all 'straight' earphones will fit like that. M6 is ergonomic and very comfortable as long as it fits in your outer ear.

 



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Originally Posted by DnB Sublimity View Post

Hey Joker,

 

Since I got my SP-51's, I'm loving them!  I've been using the black plate and the bass is nice, deep, full and impactful.  The treble could be a tad more forward, but I'm mostly listening to drum and bass so it's ok.  My only complaint is it's time consuming getting a perfect seal with them.  Too far in or not far in enough I lose bass, and sometimes when I get a good seal, they need to be readjusted again if I'm moving around or exercising with them.

 

I just got a new Atrio X which hasn't burned in yet, but they are easier to get a seal with and stay in place even if I'm exercising with them.  But the bass isn't as deep and impactful as the SP-51's, although the sub-bass frequencies seem to be more cleanly separated.  I don't know if the bass will become deeper after burn-in as I've only listened to them for about 15 hours now.

 

I was wondering if you could recommend an upgrade to the SP-51's in terms of bass quantity and quality.  Is there anything deeper and more impactful and also stays put if I'm exercising?  I'd like an earphone that would be quite offensive to a non-basshead.  Smooth sound signature and non-fatiguing like the SP-51's.

 

In terms of pricing, I'd like it to be <$70.  Black Friday is coming up so I'm thinking earphones that normally go for $110 might work.  Is there anything that would be a MAJOR upgrade from the SP-51's or is everything just a minor upgrade at this point?  I was looking at the Munitio 9 MM billets, I think they're the cheaper versions of the SITi ones you reviewed before, but audio response graphs for both sets look identical.  They also come with earhooks which I hope keep them in place when I'm active.

 

EDIT:  Or should I look into an amp...maybe a ZO2?  My source right now is a Sony NWZ E354 mp3 player.



I really don't think there is a major upgrade from the SP51 for <$70, unless they really didn't match your listening preference. I would almost say try some foam tips and a pair of earhooks instead of different earphones. There are few things that can match the bass quantity of the SP51 - maybe the Fischer Consonance/Eterna if you can stand to lose a bit of extension for better sound overall. The Consonance especially will have quite a bit more treble sparkle but I'm not sure it will stay in any better (though it is very lightweight). The Munitio is just different but you will miss the clarity of the SP51 if you go in that direction. I don't know anything about the ZO.

post #4833 of 16802

Hi ljokerl,

 

Any intention of testing out ClarityOne IEMs anytime soon?

Or have you tested them out already?

post #4834 of 16802
Thread Starter 


 

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Originally Posted by Foress View Post

Hi ljokerl,

 

Any intention of testing out ClarityOne IEMs anytime soon?

Or have you tested them out already?



Yeah, I received my pair this week. They are alright earphones but nothing as revolutionary as the marketing claims. Treble is too prominent out of the box.

post #4835 of 16802

Hi ljokerl,

I'm having issue with driver flex and would like to know if it will have any adverse effect on the phone.

Thanks

post #4836 of 16802
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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post


I really don't think there is a major upgrade from the SP51 for <$70, unless they really didn't match your listening preference. I would almost say try some foam tips and a pair of earhooks instead of different earphones. There are few things that can match the bass quantity of the SP51 - maybe the Fischer Consonance/Eterna if you can stand to lose a bit of extension for better sound overall. The Consonance especially will have quite a bit more treble sparkle but I'm not sure it will stay in any better (though it is very lightweight). The Munitio is just different but you will miss the clarity of the SP51 if you go in that direction. I don't know anything about the ZO.



Yeah I'm going to try some Comply T-400's soon as I love the sound from the SP's.  I think they're going to have a black friday deal on them so I'll give it a shot.  Any idea's on where to get earhooks alone.  I saw some Woodees.., are there any other ones?

post #4837 of 16802

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Edited by bmeat - 8/15/14 at 3:02pm
post #4838 of 16802

Hi ljokerl,

 

Any plans to review the vsonic gr06's any time soon?

post #4839 of 16802
ljokerl, in your opinion how does the EX600 compares against it's bigger brother (I'm assuming you've listened to them already).
And would you consider these flat sounding?

Thanks
post #4840 of 16802
Thread Starter 


 

Quote:
Originally Posted by DnB Sublimity View Post



Yeah I'm going to try some Comply T-400's soon as I love the sound from the SP's.  I think they're going to have a black friday deal on them so I'll give it a shot.  Any idea's on where to get earhooks alone.  I saw some Woodees.., are there any other ones?


Those are not the kind of earhooks I had in mind. They just hold the earphones in place while worn cord-down. Not sure how well they work. I was thinking along the lines of conventional earhooks, for over-the-ear wear. MEElec and Phonak both sell them.

 



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Originally Posted by erudite View Post

Hi ljokerl,

 

Any plans to review the vsonic gr06's any time soon?


Unfortunately, no



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Originally Posted by staxxx View Post

ljokerl, in your opinion how does the EX600 compares against it's bigger brother (I'm assuming you've listened to them already).
And would you consider these flat sounding?
Thanks

 

Flat in terms of response? No, not really. The EX1000 isn't flat either - both are colored, albeit pleasantly. They do share a sound signature but the EX1000 is that little bit better all around. The EX600 is about on-par with the GR07 technically but if you're looking for flat the VSonics are a better choice.

post #4841 of 16802

Any word  on the new Brainwavz M4?

post #4842 of 16802

I personally think they're flat, but only from the bass to the midrange to about (1.5-2k). The upper midrange and treble is where things start getting colored. Not sure I'll say the GR07 are more flat, their bass has an added hump, but it does make them sound more natural and probably more flat if related with compensation in mind. I do think the treble is more even though, but not by a big margin. 

post #4843 of 16802

The GR07 has more quantity mid and sub bass vs EX600?

 

Relative to GR07, is EX600 brighter, even to the point of being unpleasant?

 

Which would most say is more musical, GR07, EX600 or FXT90?

 

 

post #4844 of 16802

I see what you're talking about now...thanks!  I'll try and get the MEE ones when they're available.

post #4845 of 16802
Originally Posted by olear View Post

The GR07 has more quantity mid and sub bass vs EX600?

 

Relative to GR07, is EX600 brighter, even to the point of being unpleasant?

 

Which would most say is more musical, GR07, EX600 or FXT90?

Here's my take:

In terms of quantity yes, it has more midbass and subbass. I think the EX600's bass may be a tad tighter though. 

 

The EX600 is brighter, but it isn't too bright. The problem is a lower treble spike, the GR07 has the same issue but the EX600's seems more uneven. 

 

"Musical" is broad and is variable, I actually think a close to neutral presentation is musical so it's hard to say. I did predict a great appeal for the FXT90s due to their very aggressive, exiting signature and the appeal has surely turned out to be there. I think the EX600 is the more clinical one of the 3. The GR07 has a nice amount of bass that gives it a good amount of excitement, same for the treble to a lesser extent. 


Edited by Inks - 11/20/11 at 2:44pm
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