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Better bass control than CX300, not sure why you would consider moving down to the Sennheisers from the S4. The S3 packages all of the flaws of the S4 with fewer of the strengths. Aside from having good detail and clarity in its price range, I really wouldn't recommend the S3. The E10 is softer-sounding and a lot more spacious, with less peaky treble. Much easier to recommend. The Turbine is less trebly, period. Also warmer and much smoother. I've always like the Turbine better than the S4.



the headphones i have right now are the cx300 and i was thinking of upgrading upto either the klipsch s4 or the soundmagic E10

 

which is better in terms of bass and overall?

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Edited by bmeat - 8/15/14 at 2:57pm
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joker

a question about the isolation score

the high isolation you get with the Crystal and the 3 audio-technica is it because the deep insertion? is it possbile to achieve the same level with a less deep insertion? 

4.5/5 is pretty high. ety's level (mc5)


Yeah, the Crystal isolates a lot with a good eartip (e.g. Meelec tri-flange), probably more than any other dynamic except the MC5. 

 



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Thanks joker. The store don't allow testing so I don't know the difference between the two. Good thing you're here or else people might end up buying IEMs with too much bass. I guess I'm one of the few people who don't like too much of it.tongue.gif  It's getting more common nowadays that more bass =  good IEM so research is important.  Tried the Grado i9i and it was too bassy as well.  The store owner says that I can try looking at other brands but it won't be better than Grado. Love your own as they say.ksc75smile.gif


If you thought the iGi was too bassy just go with the A151. Pretty balanced except for the relaxed treble. By the way, that wasn't me replying above tongue.gif

 



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The CC51 has "monster bass" to you? I thought it was fairly even handed in comparison to real bass monsters like the DUNU Hephaes and SP51 but that's just me.


Same, CC51 bass is definitely enhanced but not at all overbearing.

 



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the headphones i have right now are the cx300 and i was thinking of upgrading upto either the klipsch s4 or the soundmagic E10

 

which is better in terms of bass and overall?


S4 has aggressive, punchy bass. E10 is a little softer but not far off in quantity. Unless you anticipate fit issues with the larger housing of the E10 I would not recommend paying any more for the S4. Going into the $60-70 range you could have a Fischer Consonance or something.

 

post #4789 of 16802

When I had the CC51s I thought they had more bass quantity than the ATH-M50s. But then you have that whole M50 white box/blue box confusion, so who knows.

 

Hey Joker, what would you say your favorite "bassmonster" IEM is? Just out of curiosity.basshead.gif

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joker

a question about the isolation score

the high isolation you get with the Crystal and the 3 audio-technica is it because the deep insertion? is it possbile to achieve the same level with a less deep insertion? 

4.5/5 is pretty high. ety's level (mc5)


Yeah, the Crystal isolates a lot with a good eartip (e.g. Meelec tri-flange), probably more than any other dynamic except the MC5. 

 

and the ATH- ?

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Originally Posted by Selenium View Post

Hey Joker, what would you say your favorite "bassmonster" IEM is? Just out of curiosity.basshead.gif


The FX700


 

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and the ATH- ?


?

 

post #4792 of 16802
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Interesting product in the K2. Monitors are quite the products. The Westone UM series are certainly stage monitors as the sounds is colored in a way to reduce fatigue and create a surround kind of feeling with a lack of forward projection (well illustrated by James444). Then you have the studio monitors but what is sometimes overlooked is the compensations IEMs/headphones need, IEM makers need to compensate for bypassing the pinna. It's not an exact science but ideally a small hump in the lower regions is ideal, though the amount would be subjective (IMO the SE530/EQ-7 and Q-Jays sound very realistic in amount here). Then the higher mids/lower treble are problematic as there is an increased gain there that pretty much requires a dip for the IEMs due to the increase gain. In the higher treble lots of resonant issues reside going up and too much emphasis can overlook the fact that filtering is needed since the IEMs are so close to the ear. Getting the most realistic lower/higher treble is perhaps the hardest feat. My worry about so called "flat" IEMs is their lack of compensation which makes them sound artificially forward in details and somewhat treble lenient. Like reference speakers, imo reference flat (not textbook flat) IEMs would be pretty much midrange focused with the a pinch of body coming from the lower regions and without bringing in harmonics and high frequency details in the high regions too forward with a natural smoothness.

 

Wonder what approach J-Phonic took with these in the high regions, lots of things about it look promising. Monitors like the 7550 and GR07 seem to be taking some compensation in mind. I would say that sometimes IEMs that don't have the monitor marketing get the sound quite right like the PFE, SE530/5 and EQ5. SM3 sounds like a stage monitor but I don't think I've seen it marketed as such. I will disagree on the 535's approach in being solely a consumer product, I think it was tuned based with compensation in mind for professionals. 

With this in mind, do you think the J-Phonic has some compensation in the treble? You mention less peaky than CK10, but I didn't find that too peaky just too forward which consequently made those small bumps stand out. Then you say it's aggressive which worries me that it may have a forward treble. 

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I've actually been looking at the FX700s on ebay lately. I don't need another bassmonster so my wallet thanks you!tongue.gif

 

I don't need any other headphones period...damn it.

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With this in mind, do you think the J-Phonic has some compensation in the treble? You mention less peaky than CK10, but I didn't find that too peaky just too forward which consequently made those small bumps stand out. Then you say it's aggressive which worries me that it may have a forward treble. 


I didn't see your post.

 

To be fair, the whole thing is aggressive, and I think the treble is more or less in line with the midrange. I mentioned that it flows better than with the CK10 in the review and then in a subsequent comparison when someone asked, but I don't think it dips down as you want. Oh and the CK10 has some peaks higher up, which with some tracks can make it sound spitty, hot, tizzy, splashy, whatever you want to call it. It's not often a problem but on the rare track where the CK10 does put a foot wrong, the K2 sounds a lot better. 

 



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Originally Posted by Selenium View Post

I've actually been looking at the FX700s on ebay lately. I don't need another bassmonster so my wallet thanks you!tongue.gif

 

I don't need any other headphones period...damn it.


I have reservations about calling the FX700 a bass monster personally since there is a lot of cheap bass-heavy crap I would like to reserve that label for but if you found the CC51 bassy then I've no doubt that that's what it will be to you.

 

post #4795 of 16802

i was asking about the 3 audio technica which you rated 4.5/5 on isolation, is it possbile to get the same level without too deep insertion, with other tips?

post #4796 of 16802

Joker, was set the rating of Fischer Eterna based on rev.2, or on both?

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Oops, didn't see the reply source hehe. Thanks Niyologist!

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i was asking about the 3 audio technica which you rated 4.5/5 on isolation, is it possbile to get the same level without too deep insertion, with other tips?



Not unless you have a short-nozzle custom that fits very tightly.



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Joker, was set the rating of Fischer Eterna based on rev.2, or on both?


Rev.2. It was the only one in production at the time.

 

post #4799 of 16802

Which one of the two would you reccomend more?

In case you don't remember I like to listen to:

alternative, pop, rap, and techno, and is looking for a fun, bassy, sound.

 

( out of the M2, and the NE-700x )

 

The build quality, looks, and isolation ( as long as it isn't completely mediocre ) is also of a major part of my decision.


Edited by StereoNoodles - 11/15/11 at 12:31pm
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Originally Posted by StereoNoodles View Post

Which one of the two would you reccomend more?

In case you don't remember I like to listen to:

alternative, pop, rap, and techno, and is looking for a fun, bassy, sound.

 

( out of the M2, and the NE-700x )

 

The build quality, looks, and isolation ( as long as it isn't completely mediocre ) is also of a major part of my decision.



I don't know what I could tell you that isn't already in the reviews. Just get whichever appeals to you more - both are fun and bassy, both are well-built, both isolate about the same. I prefer the fit, the looks, and the sound signature of the M2 but it's your money and your decision.

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