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post #4591 of 16802

Sigh - you've done it again, Joker - will have to make room for the Consonance, but I absolutely agree re FA's retail presence. Old biases die hard, but dealing with a company in Russia still concerns me (as opposed to handing my credit card details to every Chinese e-merchant advertising on Head-Fi ...)  eek.gif

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Edited by bmeat - 8/15/14 at 11:15am
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Originally Posted by estreeter View Post

Sigh - you've done it again, Joker - will have to make room for the Consonance, but I absolutely agree re FA's retail presence. Old biases die hard, but dealing with a company in Russia still concerns me (as opposed to handing my credit card details to every Chinese e-merchant advertising on Head-Fi ...)  eek.gif


I suppose you could ask FrogBeats if they intend to stock the Consonance if you trust them more. Their prices for the other Fischer stuff are reasonable.



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Originally Posted by bmeat View Post

joker i knows this sounds really redundant but i need your help one last time. do you like the superfi4 or ue500 better? i mostly listen to rock metal and rap. i want the drums and cymbals, instruments everything to stand outaccurately and clear on the metal and rock and on the rap to have fun bass thanks in advance


I like the UE500 better. It is more v-shaped but it has better clarity and good detail across more of the spectrum, as well as a bigger/more open soundstage. The SF4 struggles with high/low extension and sounds a little dry overall. It's most likely based around a Knowles Siren but out of the Siren-based earphones I definitely prefer the A151 to it and probably the PL50 as well.

 

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I already got the UM Miracle in this fashion biggrin.gif. There's a thread about it.


Talk about being late on the balletysmile.gif

However when you hit 500 I'm sure those miracle will be called mediocre instead of miracle...wink.gif
 

 

post #4595 of 16802

ljokerl, first of all, as a regular reader/follower of your reviews, let me congratulate you for your excelent work! normal_smile%20.gif

 

Now, about those Vsonic GR07, I've been reading a lot about them, as I might buy them. According to your table in the first page, in that price range, they are the best buy model, right? I'm just concerned about everyone saying they're quite sibilant at first, and then they settle down after some hundred hours of burn-in. Well, as I hate sibilance, and I easilly get annoyd with it, are these IEM for me? Does that sibilance everyone says they have really goes away after burn-in, or is it just reduced but still quite present?

 

I'm looking for a good pair of IEM, with good mids, soft (easy, but detailed) highs and, the most important for me, good bass and strong impact (as a drummer, I really enjoy "feeling" the beats)! 

 

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MTPG > MTB > Beats Studio > Beats Solo HD. I don't know what the pro sounds like.

 

 


wow so the regular turbines are better sounding that the beats studio?

 

how do each of the headphones rank in terms of bass only?

 

post #4597 of 16802

This weekend...MEElectronics SP51 for $27 http://www.meelec.com/Sound_Preference_In_Ear_Headphones_s/330.htm.  Coupon codes:  "SPooky51" "SHIPPING_COUPON"

 

I just got one!!!   SOOOO EXCITED!!!!!!  Best $27 I've spent in a while!!!!  Woo-hoo!!!

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So just got a used GR07...really impressive. Quite shocked at this price point. Just fantastic. Not perfect, but, wow, these things are good. To think this kind of quality can now be found at this price point... It's a good day to love music.

 

Now, I'm enjoying all kinds of music on the GR07. But it wouldn't be my first pick for the classical side. Right now, I got a W2 (which I ordered before reading you didn't like it). The more I listen to the more I likeit  (especially w/ the Shure Olives; olives are almost a must w/ W2). It does lots of things decently and the olives open them up quite a bit and shrink the veil back. What do you think we would compliment the GR07 for classical, especially strings/baroque, fast stuff w/ lots of detail. Should I stick w/ the W2, which is definitely not bad, or go for the RE272? From reading, it seems like the RE272 could be a great compliment to the GR07...

 

Thanks as always!

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by putente View Post

ljokerl, first of all, as a regular reader/follower of your reviews, let me congratulate you for your excelent work! normal_smile%20.gif

 

Now, about those Vsonic GR07, I've been reading a lot about them, as I might buy them. According to your table in the first page, in that price range, they are the best buy model, right? I'm just concerned about everyone saying they're quite sibilant at first, and then they settle down after some hundred hours of burn-in. Well, as I hate sibilance, and I easilly get annoyd with it, are these IEM for me? Does that sibilance everyone says they have really goes away after burn-in, or is it just reduced but still quite present?

 

I'm looking for a good pair of IEM, with good mids, soft (easy, but detailed) highs and, the most important for me, good bass and strong impact (as a drummer, I really enjoy "feeling" the beats)! 

 

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Some of those who found them moderately sibilant at first still find them very mildly sibilant after burn-in. Some don't even find them sibilant to start with. It varies a lot based on ear geometry, personal sensitivity to sibilance, and maybe even individual unit. They are a safe buy for most people but in the end there is no way to know for sure without trying them. 



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Originally Posted by Prazzyp View Post


wow so the regular turbines are better sounding that the beats studio?

 

how do each of the headphones rank in terms of bass only?

 

 

Bass is perceived differently between in-ears and full-size headphones. I would say both of the headphones are more tactile and impactful in the conventional sense than the in-ears but it's nasty one-note bass rather than the rich, textured bass of Turbine Golds (and to a lesser extent regular Turbines).

 



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Originally Posted by imackler View Post

So just got a used GR07...really impressive. Quite shocked at this price point. Just fantastic. Not perfect, but, wow, these things are good. To think this kind of quality can now be found at this price point... It's a good day to love music.

 

Now, I'm enjoying all kinds of music on the GR07. But it wouldn't be my first pick for the classical side. Right now, I got a W2 (which I ordered before reading you didn't like it). The more I listen to the more I likeit  (especially w/ the Shure Olives; olives are almost a must w/ W2). It does lots of things decently and the olives open them up quite a bit and shrink the veil back. What do you think we would compliment the GR07 for classical, especially strings/baroque, fast stuff w/ lots of detail. Should I stick w/ the W2, which is definitely not bad, or go for the RE272? From reading, it seems like the RE272 could be a great compliment to the GR07...

 

Thanks as always!

I definitely like the RE272 better than the W2 but that's just me. I have nothing against the W2 from a technical standpoint but the RE272 does not require different tips to lift the veil (seeing as how there isn't one). It certainly is a less aggressive, more liquid complement to the GR07 if you can be happy with its somewhat recessed deep bass.
 


Edited by ljokerl - 10/28/11 at 3:28pm
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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post

 

I definitely like the RE272 better than the W2 but that's just me. I have nothing against the W2 from a technical standpoint but the RE272 does not require different tips to lift the veil (seeing as how there isn't one). It certainly is a less aggressive, more liquid complement to the GR07 if you can be happy with its somewhat recessed deep bass.
 


Thanks! I like liquid but the lack of bass scares me a little, though I'm fine w/ less than the GR07. I've read that it has less than the etymotic brand...would you say that?

 

I'm not sure what kind of music you like. Apart from the top tier customs, which iem do you think does the best job with a violin or cello solo, or a string quartet? Timber is really important and extended treble w/o grain.  I find that these instruements are just so demanding to reproduce really, really well. So far, I've like what the Westone 4 and ER4P have done (both I've sold off, but I may be crazy...), but I'm interested what you would think, especially in the dynamic driver options?

 

And, just because its interesting, what music have you been listening to a lot of recently?

 

post #4601 of 16802

@joker

 

how's the bass quantity, quality, texture, impact, treble, treble extension of X-IE when compare to Brainwavz M2? Will it be a wise decision to sell my M2 and get the X-IE?

 

How does Thinksound TS02+mic and Phiaton PS20 stand against Brainwavz M2 and also plz compare Thinksound TS02+mic and Phiaton PS20 to the M2 in bass, mids, treble, soundstage, treble brightness and all.


Edited by abhijollyguy - 10/29/11 at 9:15am
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Do you have any plans to review the Monster Tron IEM?

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Originally Posted by imackler View Post


Thanks! I like liquid but the lack of bass scares me a little, though I'm fine w/ less than the GR07. I've read that it has less than the etymotic brand...would you say that?

 

I'm not sure what kind of music you like. Apart from the top tier customs, which iem do you think does the best job with a violin or cello solo, or a string quartet? Timber is really important and extended treble w/o grain.  I find that these instruements are just so demanding to reproduce really, really well. So far, I've like what the Westone 4 and ER4P have done (both I've sold off, but I may be crazy...), but I'm interested what you would think, especially in the dynamic driver options?

 

And, just because its interesting, what music have you been listening to a lot of recently?

 


The bass of the RE272 is a bit odd. On the one hand it is very controlled and detailed. I really don't find it lacking listening to just the RE272 for a while. However, even compared to balanced or analytical IEMs such as the CK10, j-phonic K2 SP, or even ER4S, impact just seems to be less sharp, less tactile. It really seems like lower notes are pushed further into the background and a little softer and more 'rounded' than they should be. In that sense my ER4S can pull ahead of the RE272 but I think it tends to decay a bit too quickly on average.

 

I quite like the JVC FX700 with strings except when the bass gets in the way, as well as the EX1000, though it's not exactly flat. Ditto on the W4, though obviously that's not dynamic. I've been using the FX500 and EX600 lately, courtesy of Inks, and while I think they are reasonable approximations of the EX1000 and FX700, they are a little less refined (a-la GR07) which tends to get on my nerves at times.

 

On my own time I listen mostly to prog rock as well as some metal and electronica. More recently - post-rock, space rock, atmospheric, etc.

 

Track off the album that's playing right this moment:

 

 

and the next one:

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by abhijollyguy View Post

@joker

 

how's the bass quantity, quality, texture, impact, treble, treble extension of X-IE when compare to Brainwavz M2? Will it be a wise decision to sell my M2 and get the X-IE?

 

How does Thinksound TS02+mic and Phiaton PS20 stand against Brainwavz M2 and also plz compare Thinksound TS02+mic and Phiaton PS20 to the M2 in bass, mids, treble, soundstage, treble brightness and all.


I can't recommend buying the X-IE at the moment due to build quality issues. I like the M2 better than the PS20 and TS02. The PS20 is more of a smooth, relaxed sound with less forward mids and lower bass impact. The TS02 is more v-shaped, again with less forward mids, a bit more treble sparkle, and similar bass impact with a little more depth. The PS20 has the widest soundstage. For more specifics you'll have to read the reviews - I haven't listened to the TS02 in a while.

 



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Do you have any plans to review the Monster Tron IEM?


Everything I have plans to review is listed on the front page of the thread, below the table.

 

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How does the JVC HA FX-500 sound like?

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I'm waiting for the day I see the AKG K3003 review up on this thread. rolleyes.gifwink.gifbiggrin.gifredface.gif

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