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post #4561 of 16802

what do you have to say about these comparisons?

 

Monster Turbine vs Beats Solo HD

Monster Turbine Gold vs Beats Studio

Monster Turbine Gold vs Beats Pro

 

it would help if you could rank these accordingly in terms of which has the best sound quality to the one with worst

post #4562 of 16802

What is your favorite headphone in the under $100 class(either at the time of review or now price has been lowered to under $100).  

post #4563 of 16802

Such an awesome thread. I've been looking for an upgrade over my RE0s, now I'm stuck deciding between the 272 and ck10. It seems like the hifiman is the obvious choice?

post #4564 of 16802
Thread Starter 

 

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Originally Posted by DnB Sublimity View Post

Yeah I'm most likely going for the SP51 especially if I can get a better price on it later.  What would be your top 5 <$50 phones with sub bass extension/warm signature but also clear midrange along with highs that aren't piercing/sharp...in general have an open feeling to them with maximum deep bass impact?   I was thinking about spending a little more for the Hippo VB's bc they seem highly regarded for bassheads, but now I'm not so sure seeing as the bass emphasis drops off quicker than the SP51's.


SP51 would be a contender if you can find it at that price; same goes for the Xears sets, though they will probably come out a bit above $50 with shipping . At regular prices the Soundmagic E10 and Dunu Trident, though the E10 isn't that smooth and the Trident isn't that open-sounding. If you want monster bass there's also the Padacs Aksent around that price. That's more of an M31 competitor in being a touch less refined overall than these others.

 



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Originally Posted by Prazzyp View Post

what do you have to say about these comparisons?

 

Monster Turbine vs Beats Solo HD

Monster Turbine Gold vs Beats Studio

Monster Turbine Gold vs Beats Pro

 

it would help if you could rank these accordingly in terms of which has the best sound quality to the one with worst


MTPG > MTB > Beats Studio > Beats Solo HD. I don't know what the pro sounds like.

 



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Originally Posted by coldmack View Post

What is your favorite headphone in the under $100 class(either at the time of review or now price has been lowered to under $100).  


Purely in terms of sound and now that the Klipsch Custom 3, Panasonic HJE900, and Sunrise Xcape v1 are not available at <$100, probably the Xcape IE or RE0.

 



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Originally Posted by ChavaC View Post

Such an awesome thread. I've been looking for an upgrade over my RE0s, now I'm stuck deciding between the 272 and ck10. It seems like the hifiman is the obvious choice?


Obvious if you want to avoid the aggression/edginess of a BA-based earphone. There's no bad option there.

 

post #4565 of 16802

Joker,

 

Your willingness to give thoughtful responses and suggestions is endlessly amazing. So now I'll ask for one:

 

I'm looking for a gym (mostly) IEM. Budget is $50-ish, and I have PayPal money to spend. They'll be used with a new 16Gb iPod Nano.

 

Sound signature preference: I love both pairs of Fischer DBA-02 (enough bass in my ears) and Sunrise Xcape (v.1). I might have used the Xcape here, but they've become intermittent in the left channel, and being an endangered species with "sketchy' build quality, probably not the best choice for this application. NE-7M, Hippo VB, MEElec M-9 were all to bass-prominent for my tastes.

 

Candidates:

MEElec A151 (great price from Newegg)

MEElec CC51 (pretty good price from Buy.com)

Brainwavz M1

Soundmagic E30 - not sure about the fit with my ears

Soundmagic E10

One of the H20 Audio Surge models - for the waterproof-ness

post #4566 of 16802

Now I just gotta wait for the right price to pull the trigger on any of them on my list.  Thanks a lot for the input Joker!

post #4567 of 16802

Joker, received a couple SoundMAGICs today (E10 & PL30)...Of course you were dead on especially with the cable...the rubbery is driving me nuts...I like the sig though...Thanks...The PL30s need to get with it and give me some bass...The slam is there but the depth needs to get lower...

 

Wait til' I get my JVC Explosives tomorrow, I'll show those PL30s how to reach down and grab some....lol

 

The E10s shine with some guitar rock...I have pressed repeat about 5 times for Alter Bridge- Down To My Last.....The vocals on that track with some phones sound sibilant and the guitars get muddied...The E10s handle it very well.....No sibilance and the guitars are very smooth with edginess....For 35 beans, I have made a great investment....

 

Again, thanks so much for the work you do bro.......beerchug.gif


Edited by HeatFan12 - 10/25/11 at 5:51pm
post #4568 of 16802
Thread Starter 

Added two for the bass lovers - Fischer Audio Consonance and Ultimate Ears 350

 

 

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(3A61) Ultimate Ears 350 / 350vi

Ultimate Ears 350 400x300.jpg
Reviewed Oct 2011

Details: consumer-oriented dynamic-driver IEM from UE
Current Price: $40 from bhphotovideo.com (MSRP: $49.99); $59.99 for 350vi with microphone
Specs: Driver: Dynamic | Imp: 16Ω | Sens: 105 dB | Freq: 20-20k Hz | Cable: 3.8’ L-plug
Nozzle Size: 4mm | Preferred tips: Stock single-flanges
Wear Style: Straight down or over-the-ear

Accessories (3.5/5) – Single-flange silicone tips (5 sizes), shirt clip, and plastic clamshell carrying case
Build Quality (3.5/5) – The lightweight housings are made of black and chromed plastic, as with most of UE’s other recent releases. The cable is soft and flexible and the housing entry strain reliefs are impressive. The strain relief on the plastic-shelled 3.5mm L-plug, however, isn’t
Isolation (3.5/5) – Good for an entry-level dynamic-driver earphone
Microphonics (4/5) – Quite low in the soft and flexible cable. Can be eliminated completely with over-the-ear wear
Comfort (4/5) – The housings are small and lightweight, tapering slightly at the front. The long strain reliefs do not pose a problem for over-the-ear wear and an impressive five sizes of eartips are included

Sound (5.9/10) – Priced below the $50 mark, the UE350 is a consumer-oriented dynamic-driver model with a bass-heavy sound signature. By UE’s own admission, the 350 was tuned to provide a club feel, which shows through in the depth and power of the bass. Though not a bass monster in the same way a Sony XB40EX or MEElec M31 may be, the UE350 is unlikely to leave anyone wanting for rumble or power. The Dunu Trident, which has a similar frequency balance, is slightly more controlled at the low end and tends to sound tighter and punchier but the overall bass quantity is comparable between the two. That said, the note presentation of the UE350 is even softer than that of the Trident, causing the bass to sound a touch flabby and muddy, though not offensively so as was the case with many older dynamics of this sort.

The midrange is warm and full, with occasional bass bleed and average detail resolution. Clarity can be slightly disappointing and vocals occasionally sound a touch muffled next to the similarly-priced Dunu Trident and Klipsch Image S3. Smoothness is very impressive, however, making the UE350 much easier to listen to in the long run than the S3 and much more forgiving. The top end is slightly laid-back to avoid listening fatigue and performs similarly to the midrange in clarity and detail resolution. Top-end extension is good but the overall tone is still a touch dark - those looking for more neutral sound with crisp, sparkly treble should invest in the pricier UE500.

The presentation of the UE350 is surprisingly competent – soundstage width is above average and the earphones - while not as well-layered or resolving as the Dunu Trident or pricier UE500 - give a good sense of space for an entry-level product. Klipsch’s similarly-priced Image S3 sounds significantly smaller and more constrained despite boasting better detail and clarity. The note thickness is a little too great for the UE350 to sound as clean and airy as the UE500 does but on the whole the presentation is quite competent.

Value (7.5/10) – Back in the pre-Logitech days, UE released a couple of entry-level dynamic-driver earphones under the MetroFi badge which - while not bad to listen to - were simply priced too ambitiously to be very good value. With the UE350, Ultimate Ears has retained the consumer-friendly sound signature of the old MetroFi earphones while improving the overall usability and lowering the asking price. There are still minor issues such as the new clamshell carrying case - which is small and frustrating to use compared to the old one - but on the whole the UE350 is a solid entry-level product with a clear target audience; audiophiles are clearly expected to save up for the UE500.

Pros: Lightweight and comfortable; deep and powerful bass; easy-going sound signature
Cons: Frustrating carrying case, no strain relief on L-plug, slightly underwhelming clarity & detail

 

 

 

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(2C43) Fischer Audio Consonance

Fischer Audio Consonance 400x300.jpg
Reviewed Oct 2011

Details: Bass-heavy mid-range earphone from Fischer Audio
Current Price: $64 from gd-audiobase.com (MSRP: $64)
Specs: Driver: Dynamic | Imp: 18Ω | Sens: 105 dB | Freq: 20-20k Hz | Cable: 4.1’ 45º-plug
Nozzle Size: 5mm | Preferred tips: Stock bi-flanges; stock single-flanges; generic bi-flanges
Wear Style: Straight down or over-the-ear

Accessories (3.5/5) – Single-flange (5 sizes), bi-flange, and tri-flange silicone tips; hard plastic carrying case
Build Quality (4/5) – The lightweight shells of the Consonance are plastic but seem like they will hold together well. The nozzle filters are metal and the strain reliefs are sturdy and yet flexible all around. As with the pricier Tandem model, the nylon-sheathed cables are somewhat tangle-prone
Isolation (3.5/5) – The Consonance is vented at the rear and can’t be inserted too deeply due to the large housings but still manages good isolation for a dynamic-driver earphone
Microphonics (3/5) – Bothersome when worn cord-down; good when worn cable-up. The lack of a shirt clip does not help
Comfort (4/5) – The straight-barrel housings are on the large side but the Consonance is lightweight and sounds fine with a shallow fit

Sound (7.6/10) – At the heart of the Consonance is bass, and plenty of it. In terms of low-end power the Consonance is similar to the famed Eterna. It is deep and powerful, elevated most in the mid-bass region and providing tons of impact on demand. Like that of the Eterna, the bass of the Consonance is neither the quickest nor most resolving but it is immensely enjoyable. There is slightly more mid-range bleed compared to the Eterna and a warmer overall sound. The Consonance also sounds a tad thicker and yet the midrange still remains fairly detailed and clean-sounding. The Eterna, as well as the thinner-sounding HiSound Crystal and Beyerdynamic DTX 101 iE, all have the clarity of the Consonance beat by a hair but the latter two haven’t got as much bass to contend with. The Eterna, meanwhile, sounds a bit less lush and liquid than the Consonance.

The overall sound profile of the Consonance is slightly v-shaped, with a lot of bass lift and some treble emphasis. The Eterna is flatter through the mids and treble but lacks the sparkle of the newer model. Sparkle is a two-edged sword, however, and the Consonance is slightly more prone to harshness than the Eterna. In terms of presentation, the Consonance manages good width and very decent depth. Despite a tendency to be the warmer and more intimate counterpart to the more open-sounding and refined Eterna, the Consonance can almost match the soundstage size of the older model. It easily beats the Beyerdynamic DTX 101 iE in soundstaging proficiency and offers better front-to-rear and top-to-bottom space than the HiSound Crystal. Imaging is decent and instruments are well separated and properly layered. The high efficiency of the Consonance doesn’t hurt, either, and it’s not a picky earphone when it comes to sources. This is fun, carefree sound at its very best.

Value (8.5/10) – The Fischer Audio Consonance combines booming bass, warm mids, and a touch of top-end sparkle for a powerful, lively sound capable of competing with the renowned Eterna. The more conventional form factor of the Consonance, complete with a lightweight but durable shell and a soft, albeit microphonic, nylon cable makes them friendlier towards a larger portion of IEM users and the inclusion of a hard carrying case – a first for any Fischer model to fall into my hands – is very welcome (though the cable management system can be a bit time-consuming). All in all, the Consonance runs in the same vein as the Eterna and Panasonic HJE900 – fun first, accuracy second. The amazing thing is that by today’s standards, it is merely a very good earphone. Several years ago, this would have been a world beater at the asking price.

Pros: fun, bassy sound signature with few shortfalls
Cons: tangle-prone cable; microphonic when worn cord-down

 

 

 

 

 


 

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Originally Posted by dfrost View Post

Joker,

 

Your willingness to give thoughtful responses and suggestions is endlessly amazing. So now I'll ask for one:

 

I'm looking for a gym (mostly) IEM. Budget is $50-ish, and I have PayPal money to spend. They'll be used with a new 16Gb iPod Nano.

 

Sound signature preference: I love both pairs of Fischer DBA-02 (enough bass in my ears) and Sunrise Xcape (v.1). I might have used the Xcape here, but they've become intermittent in the left channel, and being an endangered species with "sketchy' build quality, probably not the best choice for this application. NE-7M, Hippo VB, MEElec M-9 were all to bass-prominent for my tastes.

 

Candidates:

MEElec A151 (great price from Newegg)

MEElec CC51 (pretty good price from Buy.com)

Brainwavz M1

Soundmagic E30 - not sure about the fit with my ears

Soundmagic E10

One of the H20 Audio Surge models - for the waterproof-ness


I wouldn't use the CC51 at the gym and the E10 will be way to bassy if you couldn't handle the NE-7M. The H2O sets are nice but don't really compete with these others on sound. Truth be told, the only H2O that gives great value for money these days is the $19 Flex. I think you will like all three of the rest and they are about evenly matched in performance. It would depend on how you would like to complete your collection at that point - with the more detailed but slightly dark A151, the smoother, thicker, more mid-centric M1, or the more bassy but surprisingly spacious and clear E30.

 



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Originally Posted by DnB Sublimity View Post

Now I just gotta wait for the right price to pull the trigger on any of them on my list.  Thanks a lot for the input Joker!


Good luck!

 



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Originally Posted by HeatFan12 View Post

Joker, received a couple SoundMAGICs today (E10 & PL30)...Of course you were dead on especially with the cable...the rubbery is driving me nuts...I like the sig though...Thanks...The PL30s need to get with it and give me some bass...The slam is there but the depth needs to get lower...

 

Wait til' I get my JVC Explosives tomorrow, I'll show those PL30s how to reach down and grab some....lol

 

The E10s shine with some guitar rock...I have pressed repeat about 5 times for Alter Bridge- Down To My Last.....The vocals on that track with some phones sound sibilant and the guitars get muddied...The E10s handle it very well.....No sibilance and the guitars are very smooth with edginess....For 35 beans, I have made a great investment....

 

Again, thanks so much for the work you do bro.......beerchug.gif


In a way Soundmagic already responded to all criticisms of the PL30's bass with the E30. Both are great value, the E10 is (IMO) nearly unbeatable for straight-up fun at its price point.

 

post #4569 of 16802

what would you recommend as a better earphone for bass lovers the consonance or the eterna?

post #4570 of 16802

void


Edited by bmeat - 8/15/14 at 11:07am
post #4571 of 16802

Glad to see UE IEMs surfacing in your comparisons, Joker!

post #4572 of 16802
Thread Starter 

 

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Originally Posted by jnd3344 View Post

what would you recommend as a better earphone for bass lovers the consonance or the eterna?

 

 

For a significant overall improvement you'd have to spend a lot more, along the lines of a Radius DDM or JVC HA-FX500 or Future Sonics Atrio.

 

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Originally Posted by bmeat View Post

and becuase of the lack of a port they create an intesnse seal sometimes if i push them in too deeply, and it kills the driver volume of one or both sides. anyway to avoid this? appreciate it greatly



It's called driver flex and there's a thread about it somewhere. 

 

 


 

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Originally Posted by nikp View Post

Glad to see UE IEMs surfacing in your comparisons, Joker!



It'll take some time to sort through them but at least the first step has been made.

post #4573 of 16802
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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post

 

 

 

For a significant overall improvement you'd have to spend a lot more, along the lines of a Radius DDM or JVC HA-FX500 or Future Sonics Atrio.

 

but if you could only pick between the two?

post #4574 of 16802

Hey joker, your reviews are awesome! i had been using the meelec M9 for quite sometime and i love the treble and bass it gives me.. im not so much of an audiophile so i don't really need high-end IEMs.. Currently i am looking for an upgrade from my M9 and i don't wish to spend more than $50 on it.. my question is, is the Brainwavz M1 a worthy upgrade over the M9 if treble and bass were my priority?

 

Thanks!

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