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post #3526 of 16803

Read the whole article.  It is describing the EX1000.  The 7NOFC cable.  Extra short cable accessory.  The EX600 uses aluminum not magnesium according to Sony.  Way off.


Edited by Anaxilus - 7/12/11 at 5:40pm
post #3527 of 16803
Originally Posted by kiteki View Post

OK but I still have a hunch Sony mass-produced the LCP driver and are omitting it from the specs online and on the box to favour marketing for the EX1000, since reviews are saying they sound very similiar, and if the EX600 is using an ML polyethene driver like in the EX700 then it should not sound close to the EX1000 at all especially since the FR graphs are quite similiar and the EX700 already uses a magnesium inner-housing and sounds like crap according to most users! ;) p.s. here is the LCP in the Z1000 driver http://assets.head-fi.org/7/74/1000x500px-LL-748eb9ac_2.jpg

 

Sorry joker for hyping the ex600 a bit in your thread, I realise there are dozens of great IEM's out there like the GR07 which costs less at $156 including shipping, and james444 has pointed out that it's more for "romantic" listening and er-4P/ck10 lovers might not rate the ex600 very highly.. :P

 

 

You could go ahead and make some theories on it, but I trust Sonys' specs. If anything the Japanese companies are the most trustworthy when it comes to specs, JVC being another. Yes, EX600 sounds similar but like I said, they have similar tuning but the EX1000 is still a step ahead and it uses a different driver. I think it's all pretty straightforward and I trust the specs. 

 


Edited by Inks - 7/12/11 at 6:27pm
post #3528 of 16803

 

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Originally Posted by Inks View Post

You could go ahead and make some theories on it, but I trust Sonys' specs. If anything the Japanese companies are the most trustworthy when it comes to specs, JVC being another. Yes, EX600 sounds similar but like I said, they have similar tuning but the EX1000 is still a step ahead and it uses a different driver. The EX700 uses a unique bio-cellulose not a ML like the EX600. I think it's all pretty straightforward, no need to overcomplicate it. 
 


I didn't realise that but you are right Japanese companies tend to be quite honest... apart from the mW input and frequency extension on the CK10??

 

Why do you think EX700 uses bio-cellulose? do you have a source on that? http://www.gadgetlite.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/sony-mdr-ex700lp-headphone-in-ear.jpg

 

 

post #3529 of 16803

Sometimes the frequency extension may seem overblown because they're using a more advanced way of testing that range than just going by ear and perhaps going air movement or something of the sort. 

 

You are right the EX700 uses a ML diaphragm, couldn't double check that as I had to do something. I was probably thinking of another Sony. Anyways, similar frequency response doesn't equal same driver though the EX600/EX700/7550 most likely do. The EX1000 may be using the same driver but dissolved in a polymer solvent or heating it pass it's melting point to create that LCP. Either way it's technically not the same driver at the end. 

 

EX600/700/800=Multi Layer Polymer

EX1000=Multi Layer Liquid Crystal Polymer


Edited by Inks - 7/12/11 at 6:23pm
post #3530 of 16803

Looking forward to the SE215 review^^

Thinking about buying it, but kind of worried about the build quality...

post #3531 of 16803

I'd love to hear how the EX1000 sounds. It's on my "to get" list. =)

post #3532 of 16803
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You have to call them up. Annoyingly, they never respond to email or contact forms.


hmm i live here in the UK, and i can only find international numbers?

 

post #3533 of 16803

I have once again another question! Joker. How would you compare the highs between the q-jays, visonic Gr07 and the FA dba02 (very similar to the Brainwavz B2?)?

It seems i wasnt very comfortable to the crispy highs of the q-jays. I likes the clarity and transparency but not very aggressive.

post #3534 of 16803
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Edit: ok ok fine that article is just posting the ex1000 specs and I was misled/being optimistic hoping Sony put their best driver in the cheap ex600 :/ :/

 

I'm still confused how the EX600 can apparently sound so much better than the EX700 if they are both using the same ML polyethene type driver, and the EX700 even has magnesium inner-housing which should lean it more in favour of the EX1000, but the EX700 is harsh and has weak imaging, is it the shape of the housing? different filters? I cannot rest! Sorry.

 

I don't mean to hype the EX600 I realise there are other offerings out there like the cheaper and more snug GR07, and james444 has pointed out that it's a "romantic" IEM and CK10/ER-4P lovers might not rate it very highly.


you have discovered a glitch in the matrix...

 

matrix3.jpg

 

post #3535 of 16803
Thread Starter 


 

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hmm i live here in the UK, and i can only find international numbers?


Monster probably handles warranty through their local retailers/distributors but I'd give them a call anyway.

 



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Originally Posted by Angelopsaro View Post

I have once again another question! Joker. How would you compare the highs between the q-jays, visonic Gr07 and the FA dba02 (very similar to the Brainwavz B2?)?

It seems i wasnt very comfortable to the crispy highs of the q-jays. I likes the clarity and transparency but not very aggressive.


I think I would stay away from all of those if you found the q-JAYS aggressive. Maybe a smoother dynamic like the RE252 or the slightly darker Westone 2 would be a better match.

 

 

post #3536 of 16803

hi. how is sound quality of vsonic GR07 compared with headphone audio M50? i like very much the sound of M50....GR07 have a sound like M50? or exist better options like FA dba02?

vsonic GR07 still is one of best preice/performance on market?

thanks

post #3537 of 16803
Joker what's your initial impressions of the Sony ex600/ ex1000? If ex1000 is on par with westone 4 I will buy me thinks.
post #3538 of 16803
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Monster probably handles warranty through their local retailers/distributors but I'd give them a call anyway.

 




I think I would stay away from all of those if you found the q-JAYS aggressive. Maybe a smoother dynamic like the RE252 or the slightly darker Westone 2 would be a better match.

 

 



The Q jays are hotter as their responce is a bit more U shaped but the advice is sound. The B2 and is smoother overall but it was still a bit too top prevalent for me.

 

post #3539 of 16803
Thread Starter 

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Originally Posted by possante87 View Post

hi. how is sound quality of vsonic GR07 compared with headphone audio M50? i like very much the sound of M50....GR07 have a sound like M50? or exist better options like FA dba02?

vsonic GR07 still is one of best preice/performance on market?

thanks

 

The GR07 is not as bass-heavy as the M50 is but I think it's a better match than the DBA-02. After trying the Sony EX600 I have to say that with fit/comfort/isolation factored in the GR07 is still my top $150 pick though the EX600 sounds equally good.



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Originally Posted by n-phect View Post

Joker what's your initial impressions of the Sony ex600/ ex1000? If ex1000 is on par with westone 4 I will buy me thinks.


EX1000 is about on par with W4. They have different strengths and weaknesses. 

 

There are no plans for an EX600 review at this time - I only heard it briefly and was able to confirm that 

 

a. There is a noticeable gap in sound quality between the EX600 and EX1000 (though keep diminishing returns in mind)

 

b. The EX600 performs about as well as the similarly-priced GR07 overall, which is very impressive for a big-brand unit

 

c. I like the EX600 better than similarly-priced dynamics from Sennheiser and Audio-Technica.

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by goodvibes View Post

The B2 and is smoother overall but it was still a bit too top prevalent for me.

 

 

 

That's exactly my worry. 

 

post #3540 of 16803
I really am caring less about sound, I just need an iem that I don't have to fuss with. Something I can stick in and go. No pulling my ear, jamming it in my head,ect. I'm sick of this seal CRAP
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