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post #1951 of 16803

Again, thanks, ljokerl :)

 

I was very interested in the review of the new CW31 from Meelec, as I'm not a wooden-earphone guy but I have friends who love them. Now I know how they sound :)

 

As for the CX-21, I had great expectations. Well, I have expectations on all the new Clarity line. When I listen music for fun I prefer the sound signature of the M11+, for example, but when I do critical listening, to spot problems in sounds, etc. I need a more neutral earphone even though I don't like the signature. To date I've been using the PL50 for that, but they are not my piece of cake and I wanted a dynamic alternative. Looks like the CX21 was what I was looking for: reasonably cheap, reasonably neutral, good design for insertion in my weird shaped ears.

 

THANKS! :)

post #1952 of 16803

Hi All,

 

i've been looking for the ideal pair of iphone compatible IEMs (for myself) and my shortlist is:

Meelec cc51

Thinksound ts02

AP PFE022 perfect bass

Denon C560R

 

i've been in touch with joker regarding the first 2 as he has sampled them.  Thought i'd share jokers comments with the rest of the class regarding thinksound ts02 vs Meelec CC51.  Please see below:

 

"they are mostly different in the way music is presented, though I think the CC51 has the upper hand in overall SQ. Both emphasize bass & midrange over treble. The Thinksounds are more textured and prone to bass 'rumble' and win out in overall bass quantity (though not by much). The CC51s are smoother and more prone to bass 'punch'. They are more fluid and remind me more of the Brainwavz earphones in terms of cohesiveness and the way notes are presented. In terms of presentation the TS02s sound more like open-back earphones, with a lot of air and slightly 'hollow' (a.k.a woody) sound. The CC51 sounds smaller but it's got a nice spherical soudstage that is filled completely with music. 

 

For comfort I quite like both but they are different in principle. The Thinksounds are fairly shallow-insertion earphones and aren't really dependent on seal quality. The CC51 has those nozzle-mounted microdrivers and behaves more like an armature when it comes to seal sensitivity. The entire 6mm-wide nozzle needs to go into the ear canal and a relatively deep seal sounds best, In terms of size they are very simliar to the apple dual-drivers which I thought were very comfortable. Of course the ceramic Meelecs are heavier but the fit is still similar."

 

I've been advised that CC51 will become available in the UK in the next 2 to 3 weeks so i'll think i'll wait to purchase them.

 

Thanks Joker

post #1953 of 16803
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Well, Head-Direct (1st link) is actually the manufacturer of the RE0 so I would certainly hope they are genuine. Ampcity is very much legit as well. Counterfeit RE0s is something I would not worry about.

 

400-series complys (T400, Tx400, etc) fit fine.

 

Cheers |Joker| once again! Seems like the first site does not allow me to ship to a UK address. Damn Amazon.com and their awkwardness!

 

Looks like AmpCity might get my £60 for the RE0's or my Dad said he found the MEElectronics A151 for £45 over here too... Decisions Decisions!

 

Any advice on this?

post #1954 of 16803

Is the SP51 almost as good as the Hippo VB? because that'll be good enough for me! biggrin.gif

post #1955 of 16803
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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post

Well, Head-Direct (1st link) is actually the manufacturer of the RE0 so I would certainly hope they are genuine. Ampcity is very much legit as well. Counterfeit RE0s is something I would not worry about.

 

400-series complys (T400, Tx400, etc) fit fine.

 

Cheers |Joker| once again! Seems like the first site does not allow me to ship to a UK address. Damn Amazon.com and their awkwardness!

 

Looks like AmpCity might get my £60 for the RE0's or my Dad said he found the MEElectronics A151 for £45 over here too... Decisions Decisions!

 

Any advice on this?

You can try to buy it from them directly (not through the amazon web store

http://www.head-direct.com/product_detail.php?p=38

post #1956 of 16803

Hey Mr. Joker,

 

Thanks for all your reviews.  You're an asset to the community.  Ok, I'm going to have to return my NE-700Ms.  I'm within the 30 days and this isn't the first time a NuForce product has failed on me.

 

Now, what do you recommend I get?  I definitely do NOT want bass monsters but I do want an iPhone compatible headphone (otherwise RE0s would've been my choice).   Have you ever gotten a chance to try out the Ety HF2s?  I'm not sure if I want a deep insertation, but I'd like some resemblance of sound stage and detail with my next pair.  I want bass, I just don't want it at the forefront of the sound.

 

Thanks for your time.

post #1957 of 16803
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Hey Mr. Joker,

 

Thanks for all your reviews.  You're an asset to the community.  Ok, I'm going to have to return my NE-700Ms.  I'm within the 30 days and this isn't the first time a NuForce product has failed on me.

 

Now, what do you recommend I get?  I definitely do NOT want bass monsters but I do want an iPhone compatible headphone (otherwise RE0s would've been my choice).   Have you ever gotten a chance to try out the Ety HF2s?  I'm not sure if I want a deep insertation, but I'd like some resemblance of sound stage and detail with my next pair.  I want bass, I just don't want it at the forefront of the sound.

 

Thanks for your time.


I think you're wearing the NE-700X inserted too deeply, which can hurt the highs and increase the bass.

post #1958 of 16803
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I think you're wearing the NE-700X inserted too deeply, which can hurt the highs and increase the bass.


Hey Larry, thanks for all your help.  I really value your opinions.  But I played this game last time with NuForce where my NE-7Ms kept failing and I kept having to get them replaced.  The 700Ms failed on me and I think I'm going to pay a premium to own a pair of IEMs that don't break on me in a couple of weeks.

 

 

post #1959 of 16803

Which is just as expensive as Ampcity but would take at least 3 timesas long to reach me, presumably.
 

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You can try to buy it from them directly (not through the amazon web store

http://www.head-direct.com/product_detail.php?p=38

post #1960 of 16803
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Originally Posted by mywallethurts View Post

@joker: how would you compare the ck10 to the re262? since im planning to buy the former


Two very different earphones - one is fast, bright, flat, accurate, and hyperdetailed and the other is soft, warm, and relaxed.

 


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Cheers |Joker| once again! Seems like the first site does not allow me to ship to a UK address. Damn Amazon.com and their awkwardness!

 

Looks like AmpCity might get my £60 for the RE0's or my Dad said he found the MEElectronics A151 for £45 over here too... Decisions Decisions!

 

Any advice on this?


The A151 for 25% less than the RE0 is a good deal if usability matters to you as much as sound quality but the RE0s still win fairly easily if sound is all you're concerned with. And of course the two do differ - the RE0 is neutral with slightly emphasized treble while the A151 is neutral with slightly emphasize midbass (which makes it darker).

 


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Originally Posted by roker View Post

Hey Mr. Joker,

 

Thanks for all your reviews.  You're an asset to the community.  Ok, I'm going to have to return my NE-700Ms.  I'm within the 30 days and this isn't the first time a NuForce product has failed on me.

 

Now, what do you recommend I get?  I definitely do NOT want bass monsters but I do want an iPhone compatible headphone (otherwise RE0s would've been my choice).   Have you ever gotten a chance to try out the Ety HF2s?  I'm not sure if I want a deep insertation, but I'd like some resemblance of sound stage and detail with my next pair.  I want bass, I just don't want it at the forefront of the sound.

 

Thanks for your time.


Broken so soon? It really seemed like the NE-700 was well thought-out compared to the NE-6. 

 

I have the Ety HF3 (and like it) However, I'm not sure you realize how great the difference in bass quantity between the Nuforce earphones and the RE0/HF3/etc is. Whether the NE-700M is a bass monster or not depends on your bass tolerance and maybe seal depth but the HF3 is on the lighter side in terms of impact no matter what you do. Detail is off the charts on the HF-series Etymotics but if you're after a well-rounded soundstage they aren't for you. Like all Etys the HF3 is fairly tubular, i.e. decent width but not much in the way of front-to-rear or top-to-bottom soundstaging. 

 

Have you looked into the mic-enabled Phonak models? The cable issues have supposedly been fixed and the Perfect Bass might have a balance that would work for you. Even the old PFE beats the HF3 in bass quantity, though not by much, and has a more well-rounded presentation. I am tempted to recommend the Maximo iP-HS5 or Meelec CW31P but they are arguably a slight downgrade from the NE-700 from a technical standpoint. I wish I could get the CC51P review up already but the JVC FX700 is taking up all of my time etysmile.gif

post #1961 of 16803
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Originally Posted by ElcomeSoft View Post

Which is just as expensive as Ampcity but would take at least 3 timesas long to reach me, presumably.
 

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Originally Posted by 50an6xy06r6n View Post

You can try to buy it from them directly (not through the amazon web store

http://www.head-direct.com/product_detail.php?p=38


 

I wouldn't know anything about that... If you're sure that Ampcity is a reputable seller, I would say to just go get them there...

post #1962 of 16803
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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post
Broken so soon? It really seemed like the NE-700 was well thought-out compared to the NE-6. 

 

Tell me about it.

 

I really like NuForce and they have great customer service, but I also sent my NE-7Ms back like 4 times before I received a pair that lasted me for a year (the cable got torn because of my carelessness eventually).

 

But yeah, thanks for the recommendations.  I'll look into them.  I don't know if "bass monsters" was the right term, but I think my issue was more about placement.  I guess I was expecting the bass to hang back a bit like it does with my full size and portable headphones.  I'm going to look into the ones you recommended. Thanks again.

post #1963 of 16803
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Originally Posted by 50an6xy06r6n View Post

I wouldn't know anything about that... If you're sure that Ampcity is a reputable seller, I would say to just go get them there...


|Joker| has already confirmed AmpCity's credentials. That doesn't seem to be a problem.

 

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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post


The A151 for 25% less than the RE0 is a good deal if usability matters to you as much as sound quality but the RE0s still win fairly easily if sound is all you're concerned with. And of course the two do differ - the RE0 is neutral with slightly emphasized treble while the A151 is neutral with slightly emphasize midbass (which makes it darker).


Thanks for the cut down version, |Joker|. I was leaning towards the RE0's before but a little bit touchy on whether the price difference was worth it. Will give it some more ponderings but I'm leaning even more towards the RE0 now.

 

EDIT: Ordered my Head-Direct RE0's from AmpCity (Direct, not via Amazon, save myself £4 P&P). Cannot wait :)

post #1964 of 16803

Hey,

 

Which tips do you recommend if I want to get good bass out of Phonak Audeo PFE, I know these are bass light headphones.

 

Thanks.

post #1965 of 16803
Thread Starter 


 

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Originally Posted by vilasn View Post

Hey,

 

Which tips do you recommend if I want to get good bass out of Phonak Audeo PFE, I know these are bass light headphones.

 

Thanks.



I would recommend trying the included complies but would also consider getting the 'Perfect Bass' (green?) filters.

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