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post #1816 of 16803

Hello ljokerl,

 

I found your reviews very helpful... actually, i already have monster turbines .. though i like the bass and sound , but the build quality is very poor .... and even isolation is not very good ( it is more than average but it totally depends on which type of song i am listening)... i am planning to get another one... i don't want to spend more than 70...  i prefer earphone with bass but not bassy ... and as i use them while transit isolation is preferable..

 

i hear all types of music... 

 

what would you prefer based on sound quality, bass and isolation ...  meelectronics a151 , sunrise sw-xcape , nuforce n700, shure se115, fischer audio eterno v1 or v2 , or should i just replace monster s as it was for only 59$ ... if you think any other headphone are good based on my priorities , also let me know,,

 

thanks in advance... :)

post #1817 of 16803

Hey Joker, ever considered the Nakamichi's humble IEM line-ups? From the entry level ones all the way to that Ceramic Housing ones, Just started work (17/1/2011 as of my Day 1 there) at Stereo Singapore, so i might loan and review them, My ears are rusty so its best i see how you think about these, Since i always felt your reviews hit-on and noticed + mentioned some things which i din notice, My ears are shoddy compared to your delicate ones beerchug.gif

post #1818 of 16803
Originally Posted by JamesMcProgger View Post

very well. a new contender then, would you recommend the Maximo imetal 590 for the cause?

altought im almost gone with the M6, might this be my first quality IEM?! tongue_smile.gif


I would HIGHLY recommend the iM-590.  I've listened to the M6, owned the M9 & currently have the M11P+ (takes the best parts of the M6 & M9, refines them & pulls up the mids a bit).. while I enjoy the M11P+ (and find them to be the best of the Mx series.. but I haven't listened to MEElec's latest offerings), I listen to the iM590 on a far more regular basis cause I absolutely love the detail, natural, balanced sound, and accuracy.

 

I think the iM590s beat the M6s in EVERY way if you want a more balanced sound.  It perfectly walks the line between fun & analytical.  It's got the wonderful grado-sound without the harshness, better bass impact and extention, soundstage, and instrument separation.  Also, I have never found an IEM that fits so effortlessly in my ears.. I'm a HUGE fan of the unique quasi-doubly flange tips.

 

I bought the iM590's on the strength that ljokerl mentioned they were his "everyday" IEMs for some time.. that's high praise coming from him & knew I had to have them.  Suffice to say, I cherish them very much and despite having heard a lot of other higher-tiered IEMs since owning the Maximos, the iM590s always draw me back in.  I don't see myself EVER selling them.  Maximo also has terrific customer service too.

 

So, ljokerl.. I'm curious.. what is your current favorite "everyday" IEMs (is it still the iM590) ?  For those who enjoy the 590 sound, what would you recommend as an upgrade in the 100~150 range (and is it a dramatic enough upgrade to warrant the price jump from the iM590) ?

post #1819 of 16803

How do I tell the difference between the M11+ and M11 physically? They both look pretty much the same to me.

post #1820 of 16803
Originally Posted by faideelah View Post

How do I tell the difference between the M11+ and M11 physically? They both look pretty much the same to me.

I've never owned or seen the M11 so I can't help you there.

 

My M11P+ housing design is not what is pictured at MEElec's website either (which has the silver metal ring).  It has the same housing design as the M9 but the M11P+ is all metal (opposed to the M9, which was all plastic).

 

You know.. I haven't gone back to my M11+'s in quite some time.. perhaps MEElec erroneously sent me the M9P instead of the M11P+ I ordered & I've just been too stupid to figure it out (this is very possible.. lol) ?  I'll have to check it out tonight.. 

post #1821 of 16803
Thread Starter 

One thing I just noticed - when I said that the A151's sound is on-par with the Westone 1, I mean literally on-par but then I went and grabbed the W1's pre-SM3 score (which was 0.25 pts higher). So the A151 should be the same as the new W1 score which is 7.75. It'll be changed with the next update which will hopefully also include something new that I like very much.

 

 

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Originally Posted by HeadphoneAddict View Post

I'm sorry to disagree, but I think I might like the NE-700x more than the M2 and M3, for their more open and deep soundstage, and the extra detail and crispness over the others.


That's ridiculous - open arguments are what makes this forum great. I think we all agree that the NE-700 is a solid set of earphones - we just value different things when it comes to picking one to use when the reviews are all said and done. I think the forward mids of the M2 is what appeals to me for casual listening since I also put the M2 ahead of the M3 preferentially (though not technically). Also has a bit to do with the easy fit..



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Originally Posted by joe24 View Post

what would you prefer based on sound quality, bass and isolation ...  meelectronics a151 , sunrise sw-xcape , nuforce n700, shure se115, fischer audio eterno v1 or v2 , or should i just replace monster s as it was for only 59$ ... if you think any other headphone are good based on my priorities , also let me know,,

 

thanks in advance... :)



Of those the A151 will have the most isolation but it's not a bassy earphone - just a bit above baseline when it comes to mid-bass. Same goes for the Xcape. Eternas have a hair more bass than the Turbines and the Nuforces are about on-level with the Monsters (the way I hear them). I generally prefer the Eterna to the Turbine so that would be my choice for bass assuming you can't just exercise the warranty on the Turbines and get a new one.

 


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Originally Posted by kendric View Post

Hey Joker, ever considered the Nakamichi's humble IEM line-ups? From the entry level ones all the way to that Ceramic Housing ones, Just started work (17/1/2011 as of my Day 1 there) at Stereo Singapore, so i might loan and review them, My ears are rusty so its best i see how you think about these, Since i always felt your reviews hit-on and noticed + mentioned some things which i din notice, My ears are shoddy compared to your delicate ones

 
Nope, never considered those. I do have the MEElec ceramics which I quite like (and which are much cheaper) so I'll just start with those if I may wink.gif

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Originally Posted by FlySweep View Post

I bought the iM590's on the strength that ljokerl mentioned they were his "everyday" IEMs for some time.. that's high praise coming from him & knew I had to have them.  Suffice to say, I cherish them very much and despite having heard a lot of other higher-tiered IEMs since owning the Maximos, the iM590s always draw me back in.  I don't see myself EVER selling them.  Maximo also has terrific customer service too.

 

So, ljokerl.. I'm curious.. what is your current favorite "everyday" IEMs (is it still the iM590) ?  I really enjoy the 590 sound signature so what would you recommend if one were to upgrade and wanted to spend no more than $100-150?

I think the Brainwavz M1 is the iM-590's biggest problem in my book since it also offers a very balanced and detailed sound at pretty much the same price point but with a seductively smooth midrange and less treble unevenness. I still like the iM-590 myself but there were a few complaints about the treble and build quality back when it was popular so I find the M1 to be the 'safer' choice as far as recommendations go. The M1 is very difficult not to like for the money.
 
Lately I find myself picking up the Brainwavz M2, ECCI PR401, or Phiaton PS 20 as budget IEMs for casual listening. Phiatons are just nice around the house for low isolation and the M2 and PR401 are fun IEMs with opposing signatures.
 
As for a ~$100-150 upgrade from the iM-590, that's a pretty tough one. I think if you don't mind moving a bit closer to the analytical side of the spectrum, the DBA-02 would be a good option since it maintains the balance but improves on the iM-590 overall.
 
 
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Originally Posted by faideelah View Post

How do I tell the difference between the M11+ and M11 physically? They both look pretty much the same to me.


They should look the same - the only difference is the drivers which you wouldn't be able to tell just by looking at them.



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Originally Posted by FlySweep View Post

 

I've never owned or seen the M11 so I can't help you there.

 

My M11P+ housing design is not what is pictured at MEElec's website either (which has the silver metal ring).  It has the same housing design as the M9 but the M11P+ is all metal (opposed to the M9, which was all plastic).  

 

I'm confused about this - the M9 is not plastic and looks nothing like the M11P+.

post #1822 of 16803

Thanks for your opinions re: the 590, joker.. I've got the DBAs & love them too.. I was thinking you'd probably mention them as the next step up.. I might look into those ECCI's for fun.. seems like a winner around HF.

 

Re: the MEElecs.. I'm fairly sure I got the wrong version of something from MEElec.  All indications state that I have a silver M9P.. but the thing is, I had never seen MEElec selling the M9P in silver (only the M9)..  Collectors' item? LOL.  I ordered these way back in November.. I wonder if MEElec would be so kind to send me the M11P+ I actually ordered (it's been a little past the 72 hrs) ?

post #1823 of 16803

Which IEM would you recommend if vocals is important. I dont listen to instrumental music like dance or classical. All music i hear is with people singing in it. What kind of characteristics should i look for in a IEM?

 

budget max 100$.

 

 

 

 

 

post #1824 of 16803
Thread Starter 

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlySweep View Post

Re: the MEElecs.. I'm fairly sure I got the wrong version of something from MEElec.  All indications state that I have a silver M9P.. but the thing is, I had never seen MEElec selling the M9P in silver (only the M9)..  Collectors' item? LOL.  I ordered these way back in November.. I wonder if MEElec would be so kind to send me the M11P+ I actually ordered (it's been a little past the 72 hrs) ?


I think you need to email MEE about that. I'm pretty sure that if you actually got the wrong earphone and can prove it, they'll make it right.

 


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Originally Posted by tan1415 View Post

Which IEM would you recommend if vocals is important. I dont listen to instrumental music like dance or classical. All music i hear is with people singing in it. What kind of characteristics should i look for in a IEM?

 

budget max 100$.



Something where the midrange isn't recessed would be a good start. I quite like the smooth and liquid way in which the RE-ZERO does vocals but I'd also look at the Fischer Silver Bullet and Brainwavz M2/M3.

post #1825 of 16803
Quote:
Originally Posted by FlySweep View Post

Re: the MEElecs.. I'm fairly sure I got the wrong version of something from MEElec.  All indications state that I have a silver M9P.. but the thing is, I had never seen MEElec selling the M9P in silver (only the M9)..  Collectors' item? LOL.

I briefly had a silver MEElec M9P about 8-10 months ago ago. Decided the cord looked a little too much like jewelry for my tastes and sold it to a female head-fier.
 

post #1826 of 16803
Thread Starter 

Fixed the MEE A151 score and added the ECCI PR401 while I was at it.

post #1827 of 16803

Nice review of the ECCIPR401. I'm wondering though, from a purely personal perspective, ignoring technical proficiency, how do you like it vs your much loved m2? And based upon the review, can I assume you finally have the fx700 in your possession? wink.gif

post #1828 of 16803

Thanks for getting a review of the ECCI PR401 up so quickly, ljokerl.. I really appreciate it (and I'm sure LendMeYourEars.com does too.. I just ordered them).. prodding you further.. how does the 401's detail, instrument separation, and balance/neutrality stack up to the 590?  While the 590 is quite even across the freq range (if not being ever so slightly mid-forward) it sounds like the ECCI is ever so slightly v shaped.. are the mids recessed enough to affect detail in vocals and instruments in that range?

 

The 590s & 401s actually sound like they share a lot of the same characteristics, but could also be somewhat complimentary to each other with the the they render mids..

 

Thanks again..

post #1829 of 16803

@joker,

 

This is what I don't like about this thread. I didn't have to know about ECCI PR401. Must resist. You really should not have mentioned FX700 in the comparison. Just saying!

 

While it may be like comparing apple to an orange, how would you compare Silver Bullets to ECCI PR401? SB is something I wanted to try for sometime now, just trying to decide between the two.

post #1830 of 16803

To |joker| and every other head-fi'er
Thank you for a very detailed thread covering the majority of IEM's out there. I know you probably hear that a lot but give appreciation to wherever it's due. This is my first post here but I have been browsing these forums for the past couple of months. I need some questions answered before making my first serious audiophile purchase. 

A little about my history; Growing up, my brother was a huge audiophile, he used to build speaker boxes and make his own systems for cars and clubs, he used to DJ and he is probably the person who got me into enjoying every detail that music can bring out. I used to love working on cars, making my systems with him but we sort of stopped that and moved on with life.

 

A few years ago I got into "Skullcandy" and was introduced to my first IEM, Skullcandy FMJ's ... Not knowing any better with IEM's I thought they were GREAT!!!!! Mainly because of the "Thump Thump" from the bass and at times hearing good sub-bass. After a year, the wiring rubber wire casing split open, exposing the actual wires, I dropped them in water on accident (a urinal actually hah... stupid kid I was) and I still proceeded to wear them until they were literally shocking my ears... Anyways I got a new pair and then thought, since the name is very recognizable I would buy them, "Klipsch S4" ... which was a new sound, not as boomy, but a little bit more balanced with a different sound signature but having a tendency to be pitchy. After a year (last month) the housing (is that what you call it? Where it holds the electronic parts and the flange) split open....

 

ANYWAYS sorry, long story short I've been in the market, browsing head-fi, just doing my research on my next set... but I want them to be the perfect start to my "head-fi" career. I am looking for something that reminds me of the days testing out systems with my brother, feeling the bass in my chest but without the lows crossing over to the mids. I would like to have a great bass but detailed at the same time to where when I am designing or working out I could be in my own little world.

My favorite genres are: 
Techno (BT, Armin Van Buuren, Infected Mushroom, and Deadmau5 ... to name a few)
Rap (Lil Boosie, Outkast, Kesha)
Some Classical (Rachmaninoff, Tchaikovsky, Saint-Saens, ect)

For under $100 (yeah I know, tall order)

Tell me if I'm wrong in my two top picks for this order:
Either:
Fischer Audio Eterna's ver1

-or-

Hippo VB

And additional IEM recommendations are welcomed! As I am, again, a newb!

Thank you for reading this (and not just to |joker|) to all that may help me!
- Joey 

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