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post #15091 of 16849

Hey ljokerl & others :)

 

My Sony XBA 1s are on their last legs, right phone needs constant wiggling to start working (had to resolder cable). To replace them I've been looking at:

 

  • Sony MH1C, £11.48
  • Monoprice 9927, £4.78
  • Philips SHE3590, £5.95

 

As I would like to spend only £10/15, although I could stretch to £20/25 if the benefits were worth it.

 

My music taste: I listen to rock and metal, ranging from Pink Floyd and Muse to Mastodon, Gojira, and very intricate and heavy stuff like The Faceless, Animals As Leaders, Meshuggah, Sikth, etc. 

 

Preferred sound signature: I'm looking for something analytical, or in the least balanced or mid. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but for my tastes I think analytical will be best because overpowering bass drowns out the intricacy of the guitars, whilst too much treble can make guitars very tiresome to listen to. Mid is the least worst in this case, although analytical would still be best.

 

I'd like lots of clarity and detail as this can really pick out the intricacies in solos. My XBA 1s did this well but weren't so good in other areas; they distorted easily and the treble could be harsh. 

 

Questions/ Other points:

 

  • Which of the 3 above are most suited to rock/metal?
  • Are any of them actually better than my XBAs?
  • Are there any other IEMs at this price point you would recommend over the above (Piston 2s aren't an option as there's no reliable UK sellers)?
  • If there are any far better IEMs for only a little bit more, I'd appreciate it if you could point them out so I can decide if I want to spend a bit more.
  • I don't mind EQing, so if any of these are considerably better after EQ I'd be grateful if you could point that out.
  • Will the MH1C work fine on my Samsung Galaxy SIII without an adapter, as I've heard some bad things about these so if someone could clear that up for that'd be great.
  • I'm very confused about how the 9927s really compare to the MH1Cs, as both have a very strong following. If someone could point out which is definitively the "best" after EQing and modding I'd appreciate this. 

 

Thanks very much :)

post #15092 of 16849
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Originally Posted by enssorcel View Post
 

Hey ljokerl & others :)

 

My Sony XBA 1s are on their last legs, right phone needs constant wiggling to start working (had to resolder cable). To replace them I've been looking at:

 

  • Sony MH1C, £11.48
  • Monoprice 9927, £4.78
  • Philips SHE3590, £5.95

 

As I would like to spend only £10/15, although I could stretch to £20/25 if the benefits were worth it.

 

My music taste: I listen to rock and metal, ranging from Pink Floyd and Muse to Mastodon, Gojira, and very intricate and heavy stuff like The Faceless, Animals As Leaders, Meshuggah, Sikth, etc. 

 

Preferred sound signature: I'm looking for something analytical, or in the least balanced or mid. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but for my tastes I think analytical will be best because overpowering bass drowns out the intricacy of the guitars, whilst too much treble can make guitars very tiresome to listen to. Mid is the least worst in this case, although analytical would still be best.

 

I'd like lots of clarity and detail as this can really pick out the intricacies in solos. My XBA 1s did this well but weren't so good in other areas; they distorted easily and the treble could be harsh. 

 

Questions/ Other points:

 

  • Which of the 3 above are most suited to rock/metal?
  • Are any of them actually better than my XBAs?
  • Are there any other IEMs at this price point you would recommend over the above (Piston 2s aren't an option as there's no reliable UK sellers)?
  • If there are any far better IEMs for only a little bit more, I'd appreciate it if you could point them out so I can decide if I want to spend a bit more.
  • I don't mind EQing, so if any of these are considerably better after EQ I'd be grateful if you could point that out.
  • Will the MH1C work fine on my Samsung Galaxy SIII without an adapter, as I've heard some bad things about these so if someone could clear that up for that'd be great.
  • I'm very confused about how the 9927s really compare to the MH1Cs, as both have a very strong following. If someone could point out which is definitively the "best" after EQing and modding I'd appreciate this. 

 

Thanks very much :)

 

None of them can be suggested as they are too warm and slow for rock/metal imo. You will loose some midrange clarity because of that warmish sound. I would recommend Vsonic VC02 instead which is on the neutral side. 

post #15093 of 16849
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Originally Posted by ozkan View Post
 

 

None of them can be suggested as they are too warm and slow for rock/metal imo. You will loose some midrange clarity because of that warmish sound. I would recommend Vsonic VC02 instead which is on the neutral side. 

Thanks, these look really good but I can't find any Vsonic earphones anywhere in the UK, and I'm not sure if I want to risk getting them from Hong Kong from eBay, especially as for £28.99 they're a bit more than I'd like to spend. Maybe from a reputable UK seller I would but I can't find any which sucks. 

 

You pointed out speed which I forgot to mention too... I think this is definitely important for the more complex metal songs. I could probably compromise midrange for warmth if speed was up to scratch, as I could try to EQ the bass down a tad (if this is untrue feel free to have a go at my n00b knowledge), so are you saying none of those are fast enough, and if so what other options are there other than VSonic (unless you think the Hong Kong sellers on eBay are OK)?

 

Thank you very much for your help once again.

post #15094 of 16849

I would recommend the VSD1S. It has a very similar quality to the GR07 with almost as good bass speed and sounds excellent for the price. I'm a fan of progressive and power metal and they sound absolutely wonderful with these genres. You can get them here: http://www.lendmeurears.com/vsonic/?setCurrencyId=3. Prices are in Euro, but you can check out with paypal and it will convert to your currency. Right now you can get these at a steal of a price at £18

 

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Originally Posted by enssorcel View Post
 

Thanks, these look really good but I can't find any Vsonic earphones anywhere in the UK, and I'm not sure if I want to risk getting them from Hong Kong from eBay, especially as for £28.99 they're a bit more than I'd like to spend. Maybe from a reputable UK seller I would but I can't find any which sucks. 

 

You pointed out speed which I forgot to mention too... I think this is definitely important for the more complex metal songs. I could probably compromise midrange for warmth if speed was up to scratch, as I could try to EQ the bass down a tad (if this is untrue feel free to have a go at my n00b knowledge), so are you saying none of those are fast enough, and if so what other options are there other than VSonic (unless you think the Hong Kong sellers on eBay are OK)?

 

Thank you very much for your help once again.


Edited by ZapX629 - 11/30/14 at 11:35am
post #15095 of 16849

hey joker..im torn between RE 600 and FIDUE a83..i listen to a rock,metal,jazzvocals and pop...which of the 2 iems would fit the bill?..btw i prefer a balanced signature and dont consider myself as a basshead...TIA

post #15096 of 16849
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Originally Posted by ZapX629 View Post

I would recommend the VSD1S. It has a very similar quality to the GR07 with almost as good bass speed and sounds excellent for the price. I'm a fan of progressive and power metal and they sound absolutely wonderful with these genres. You can get them here: http://www.lendmeurears.com/vsonic/?setCurrencyId=3. Prices are in Euro, but you can check out with paypal and it will convert to your currency. Right now you can get these at a steal of a price at £18

Thank you for your help, I hope it doesn't seem like I'm being difficult but as I'm only 16 I can't pay with PayPal and I'm not too sure about buying from Singapore either, especially considering the PayPal situation. My parents wouldn't order for me either. They look fantastic as they'd only come to £24 but I don't think it's viable. Sorry if it seems like I'm dismissing your suggestions, I am in fact extremely grateful for you helping me. Is there no option other than Vsonic for the UK? I can't find anything as balanced and fast for the same price...
post #15097 of 16849
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Originally Posted by enssorcel View Post


Thank you for your help, I hope it doesn't seem like I'm being difficult but as I'm only 16 I can't pay with PayPal and I'm not too sure about buying from Singapore either, especially considering the PayPal situation. My parents wouldn't order for me either. They look fantastic as they'd only come to £24 but I don't think it's viable. Sorry if it seems like I'm dismissing your suggestions, I am in fact extremely grateful for you helping me. Is there no option other than Vsonic for the UK? I can't find anything as balanced and fast for the same price...


It's not a problem at all. Everyone has a different situation so you have to work with what you've got. Would amazon UK be a viable option? I'm sure there's some good stuff to be had there. 

post #15098 of 16849
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Originally Posted by ZapX629 View Post


It's not a problem at all. Everyone has a different situation so you have to work with what you've got. Would amazon UK be a viable option? I'm sure there's some good stuff to be had there. 

I can use Amazon.co.uk as I've got a debit card. I'm not sure about amazon.com if that's what you mean, as Vsonic items are only on .com and not the co.uk site.
Edited by enssorcel - 11/30/14 at 12:41pm
post #15099 of 16849
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by MrGuzmanWhite View Post
 

Thank you ljokerl. I asked the team at Noble about the IEM Noble 4 to confirm is it is the same as the Noble 4s/c and they confirmed it is the universal version. Based on your enthusiastic review of the Noble 4s, and your comparisons with the HE-400 and Ety ER4P, two headphones I have and enjoy a lot, I went and ordered a Noble 4 universal. I hope this is the next step up for me. I will report back once I get the Noble 4 and can compare with the HE-400 and Ety ER4P.

 

Thank you again for your kind assistance during the section process!:beerchug: 

 

Enjoy!

 

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Originally Posted by FightBrothers View Post
 

Hey joker

did you hear about the recently released jvc fxt100 and fxt200?

 

No, I'm not familiar with these.

 

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Originally Posted by DanielKRego View Post
 

Hello ljokerl and everyone else on this thread,

 

I'm looking to gift a friend a pair of IEMs for her birthday. I have a budget of about 50 USD. Criteria are:

 

  • Fairly balanced sound, or a 'warm and smooth' signature, without losing much treble presence and air. Don't want something V-shaped. Something balanced and with good presence across the frequency range, without being too exaggerated in any area. Should not have an anaemic low-end, but shouldn't be bloated or basshead either. For reference, the HiFiMan RE-400 fits my sonic criteria, but the build quality is too poor for me to feel confident about gifting it to someone.
  • Clarity and resolution is important, doesn't need to be outstanding, but definitely 'great', to the extent that one can achieve within this budget.
  • Build quality - this gift needs to last. For reference, I consider the HiFiMan RE-400 to be poorly built, and the VSonic GR07 and VSD3S (FIXED cable) to be fairly good.
  • Something not prone to overexposing sibilance. This strikes off the VSonic VSD1S, for example.
  • Isolation should be at least above average.

 

Suggestions and options?

 

Interesting dilemma that eliminates most of the things I normally recommend. The Flux doesn't have the durability you want; the VSonic units are not smooth enough; and so on.

 

If you can increase your budget slightly, the Fidue A63 Ap616 recommended can be a good option though I have some reservations about its fit as far as giving it as a gift goes (the housings have some sharp edges). Isolation is about average but not bad.

 

Here are some others that come to mind:

Etymotic Reseach MC5 - surprisingly may just be your best bet. Very good isolation, strong build, balanced and clean sound, smooth, etc.

VSonic R02 Silver - maybe a bit cheap-looking bit it has better build quality than other similarly-priced VSonics and is not sibilant, though it does have a somewhat mid/upper mid-centric sound. Not v-shaped at all, though.

MEElec A151 - balanced/warm-ish BA sound. Not the best air and treble presence but not bad. Maybe a little riskier in the bass department as it's a little low compared to something like the A63, but not bad.

Rock-It Sounds R-20 - very similar to the MEElec above, just a different form factor.

Brainwavz M2 - blast from the past, but can currently be had for a very good price. The sound is on the warm side but it does meet your requirements.

 

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by enssorcel View Post
 

Hey ljokerl & others :)

 

My Sony XBA 1s are on their last legs, right phone needs constant wiggling to start working (had to resolder cable). To replace them I've been looking at:

 

  • Sony MH1C, £11.48
  • Monoprice 9927, £4.78
  • Philips SHE3590, £5.95

 

As I would like to spend only £10/15, although I could stretch to £20/25 if the benefits were worth it.

 

My music taste: I listen to rock and metal, ranging from Pink Floyd and Muse to Mastodon, Gojira, and very intricate and heavy stuff like The Faceless, Animals As Leaders, Meshuggah, Sikth, etc. 

 

Preferred sound signature: I'm looking for something analytical, or in the least balanced or mid. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but for my tastes I think analytical will be best because overpowering bass drowns out the intricacy of the guitars, whilst too much treble can make guitars very tiresome to listen to. Mid is the least worst in this case, although analytical would still be best.

 

I'd like lots of clarity and detail as this can really pick out the intricacies in solos. My XBA 1s did this well but weren't so good in other areas; they distorted easily and the treble could be harsh. 

 

Questions/ Other points:

 

  • Which of the 3 above are most suited to rock/metal?
  • Are any of them actually better than my XBAs?
  • Are there any other IEMs at this price point you would recommend over the above (Piston 2s aren't an option as there's no reliable UK sellers)?
  • If there are any far better IEMs for only a little bit more, I'd appreciate it if you could point them out so I can decide if I want to spend a bit more.
  • I don't mind EQing, so if any of these are considerably better after EQ I'd be grateful if you could point that out.
  • Will the MH1C work fine on my Samsung Galaxy SIII without an adapter, as I've heard some bad things about these so if someone could clear that up for that'd be great.
  • I'm very confused about how the 9927s really compare to the MH1Cs, as both have a very strong following. If someone could point out which is definitively the "best" after EQing and modding I'd appreciate this. 

 

Thanks very much :)

 

That's a very tight budget and I am not sure any of the three low-budget sets you're considering will do it for you coming from the XBA-1. You'll have to relax some of your requirements if you want to get away with spending so little. The MH1C is probably the best of the bunch but its sound is on the warm side and not a great match for what you seem to want in terms of sound signature. However it does have very smooth treble so in that respect it'll be an upgrade. One other low-end set you can check out is the LG Quadbeat F420 - it's not as warm as the MH1C and has mostly comparable performance. Not sure if it's available to you but historically it's been priced at about $25-28.

post #15100 of 16849
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by trinilove View Post
 

hey joker..im torn between RE 600 and FIDUE a83..i listen to a rock,metal,jazzvocals and pop...which of the 2 iems would fit the bill?..btw i prefer a balanced signature and dont consider myself as a basshead...TIA

 

I would pick the RE-600, especially if it's still on the $199 special.

post #15101 of 16849
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Originally Posted by enssorcel View Post


I can use Amazon.co.uk as I've got a debit card. I'm not sure about amazon.com if that's what you mean, as Vsonic items are only on .com and not the co.uk site.


Well, if you have a debit card, you can use that with paypal. If you don't want to do that though the Brainwavz Delta are an intriguing option in your budget. I haven't heard them myself but they're supposedly a very good option with a balanced sound and good separation with clear mids. Available here: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Brainwavz-Delta-IEM-Earphones-Black/dp/B00FSA8VQ2/


Edited by ZapX629 - 11/30/14 at 12:48pm
post #15102 of 16849
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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post


That's a very tight budget and I am not sure any of the three low-budget sets you're considering will do it for you coming from the XBA-1. You'll have to relax some of your requirements if you want to get away with spending so little. The MH1C is probably the best of the bunch but its sound is on the warm side and not a great match for what you seem to want in terms of sound signature. However it does have very smooth treble so in that respect it'll be an upgrade. One other low-end set you can check out is the LG Quadbeat F420 - it's not as warm as the MH1C and has mostly comparable performance. Not sure if it's available to you but historically it's been priced at about $25-28.
That's a shame, I did wonder if I wasn't restricting myself too much but due to the rave reviews and following of the MH1 and Monos I thought perhaps they'd be good enough for my needs. Unfortunately the only UK supplier of the LGs I can find doesn't have them in stock yet.

The reason I was bring so tight is due to it being near christmas, I've never spent more than around £25 on earphones during the rest of the year. If I were to increase my budget, maybe to £30+ (£35/40 would definitely be pushing it) is there anything you can recommend or are my requirements still impossible unless with much more epensive IEMs? I know for exmaple that Etymotic kids or MC5 are available for £36 - £43. Thank you for your help and pointing out my budget problem.
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Originally Posted by ZapX629 View Post



Well, if you have a debit card, you can use that with paypal. If you don't want to do that though the Brainwavz Delta are an intriguing option in your budget. I haven't heard them myself but they're supposedly a very good option with a balanced sound and good separation with clear mids. Available here: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Brainwavz-Delta-IEM-Earphones-Black/dp/B00FSA8VQ2/
I could use PayPal but it's supposed to be for 18+, if something went wrong due to the long distance shipping or something and I had to take it up with PayPal I'm not sure how much conviction I'd have considering I wouldn't be adhering to their terms myself. Maybe I'm being too safe but that's how I see it.

The Deltas look good, I read a very positive review of them on the /r/heaphones board on Reddit too. I can't really see there being many better options in my price range to be honest... Bearing in mind what I've said above do you think it would be worth saving up for something slightly pricier, such as the Etys (unless you know of something better)?
Edited by enssorcel - 11/30/14 at 1:28pm
post #15103 of 16849

Just made an accout here at Head-Fi to thank ljokerl for this thread and everybody who posted in it.

 

I've been reading it carefully for the past year and a half and I must be honest, I discovered it by mistake, but it has now made me apreciate sound more than I can say. I've bought my first pair of IEM two months ago (HiFiMan RE-400) and since then I'm just the happiest when listening to them. I discover new sound every day, it's awesome.

 

I also have a question for whomever wants to answer, I'm thinking about a pair for my gf, something cheap but great, and i've heard only good things about the Havi B3 Pro I. Without a portable amp, how will her smartphone behave with the pair?

post #15104 of 16849
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Originally Posted by Vlad17 View Post
 

Just made an accout here at Head-Fi to thank ljokerl for this thread and everybody who posted in it.

 

I've been reading it carefully for the past year and a half and I must be honest, I discovered it by mistake, but it has now made me apreciate sound more than I can say. I've bought my first pair of IEM two months ago (HiFiMan RE-400) and since then I'm just the happiest when listening to them. I discover new sound every day, it's awesome.

 

I also have a question for whomever wants to answer, I'm thinking about a pair for my gf, something cheap but great, and i've heard only good things about the Havi B3 Pro I. Without a portable amp, how will her smartphone behave with the pair?

 

I don't recommend Havi B3 without an amp. You should better get RE300H if she is on the phone and not a serious audiophile.


Edited by ozkan - 11/30/14 at 2:36pm
post #15105 of 16849
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by enssorcel View Post


That's a shame, I did wonder if I wasn't restricting myself too much but due to the rave reviews and following of the MH1 and Monos I thought perhaps they'd be good enough for my needs. Unfortunately the only UK supplier of the LGs I can find doesn't have them in stock yet.

The reason I was bring so tight is due to it being near christmas, I've never spent more than around £25 on earphones during the rest of the year. If I were to increase my budget, maybe to £30+ (£35/40 would definitely be pushing it) is there anything you can recommend or are my requirements still impossible unless with much more epensive IEMs? I know for exmaple that Etymotic kids or MC5 are available for £36 - £43. Thank you for your help and pointing out my budget problem.
I could use PayPal but it's supposed to be for 18+, if something went wrong due to the long distance shipping or something and I had to take it up with PayPal I'm not sure how much conviction I'd have considering I wouldn't be adhering to their terms myself. Maybe I'm being too safe but that's how I see it.
 

 

Yeah, the MC5 would be a very good one but even your updated budget is a bit tight for it. All the other things I would recommend won't be available from your local dealers so you'll run into the same issues with paying/processing/shipping as with the inexpensive VSonics. 

 

I guess in that case what I'd do is go with the MH1 (make sure it's the right version for you device and/or you have the appropriate adapter) and lower the bass via EQ to try and balance it out.

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vlad17 View Post
 

Just made an accout here at Head-Fi to thank ljokerl for this thread and everybody who posted in it.

 

I've been reading it carefully for the past year and a half and I must be honest, I discovered it by mistake, but it has now made me apreciate sound more than I can say. I've bought my first pair of IEM two months ago (HiFiMan RE-400) and since then I'm just the happiest when listening to them. I discover new sound every day, it's awesome.

 

I also have a question for whomever wants to answer, I'm thinking about a pair for my gf, something cheap but great, and i've heard only good things about the Havi B3 Pro I. Without a portable amp, how will her smartphone behave with the pair?

 

Thanks, that's awesome to hear. 

 

There's lots of options for inexpensive but great earphones depending on requirements. I've really been enjoying the VSonic VSD3S lately (and it comes in some funky colors if she's into that), as well as the Ostry KC06 and of course "budget" staples such as the Xiaomi Piston 2 and Philips SHE3590. 

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