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post #14461 of 16849
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Originally Posted by 1clearhead View Post
 

Hey Joker,

 

Pioneer finally got it right and came out with an incredibly balanced IEM here in mainland China.

 

The Pioneer SE-CL31

 

I just bought them 2 weeks ago and they sound identical to the Grado SR80.

 

How do they compare to the Ivery IS-1? :evil: 

post #14462 of 16849
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How do they compare to the Ivery IS-1? evil_smiley.gif  

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post #14463 of 16849
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How do they compare to the Ivery IS-1? :evil:

 

 

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One thing is Pioneer has a great reputation with high-end audio equipment, but for some reason IEM's were never there strong point (I think), until now. I read in article here in China on how long it took them to get the SE-CL31 perfectly balanced. I personally think they succeeded. Through "taobao" they're constantly rating 5 stars ever since they were released several months. Compared to my IS-1's is a toss-up! I personally like them both, IS-1's for there life-like vocals and sub-bass and the SE-CL31's for there soundstage and crisp sound reproduction.

 

.....On another note, I have my Sidy DGS100's on the way to see how much better my collection can get.

post #14464 of 16849
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Originally Posted by 1clearhead View Post
 

 

 

 

One thing is Pioneer has a great reputation with high-end audio equipment, but for some reason IEM's were never there strong point (I think), until now. I read in article here in China on how long it took them to get the SE-CL31 perfectly balanced. I personally think they succeeded. Through "taobao" they're constantly rating 5 stars ever since they were released several months. Compared to my IS-1's is a toss-up! I personally like them both, IS-1's for there life-like vocals and sub-bass and the SE-CL31's for there soundstage and crisp sound reproduction.

 

.....On another note, I have my Sidy DGS100's on the way to see how much better my collection can get.

Is it perfectly balanced or does it sound identical to the Grado SR80?

post #14465 of 16849
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Originally Posted by peter123 View Post
 

Is it perfectly balanced or does it sound identical to the Grado SR80?

 

I say, both. Though the SR80 tends to edge more towards the bass side the SE-CL31's does sound identical, but does a better job controlling the bass where it never overlaps, but compliments the rest of the spectrum. You could say a cross between the SR80 and SR60, but mostly reminding me of the SR80's signature.

post #14466 of 16849
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Originally Posted by 1clearhead View Post
 

 

I say, both. Though the SR80 tends to edge more towards the bass side the SE-CL31's does sound identical, but does a better job controlling the bass where it never overlaps, but compliments the rest of the spectrum. You could say a cross between the SR80 and SR60, but mostly reminding me of the SR80's signature.

OK, none of those strikes me as particulary balanced so I guess we just hear things really different :wink_face:

post #14467 of 16849
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Originally Posted by 1clearhead View Post
 

 

I say, both. Though the SR80 tends to edge more towards the bass side the SE-CL31's does sound identical, but does a better job controlling the bass where it never overlaps, but compliments the rest of the spectrum. You could say a cross between the SR80 and SR60, but mostly reminding me of the SR80's signature.

 

You know that was a mistake ;) Why say identical instead of a lot like the Grado??

 

Also a bit off on the IEM's as they work with Fostex Japan as OEM for quite a few of their models and have plenty of good in-ears. The CLX60(CLX40 in Japan) that I loaned Joker to review a while back is a perfect example. They have had a bad track record with portable phones esp. on-ears. Pioneer has hybrids now and they have used armatures for a few years and had sound tuning filters way back with the old CLX9. Most are solid offerings.

 

I'll back you up as I'm sure it is a good earphone but not on the Grado thing as I haven't heard the CLX31 and it is probably better to let the Pioneer sit on it's own cause you will only get some backlash/disagreement equating one phone to another esp. an earphone to a headphone.


Edited by jant71 - 9/2/14 at 3:04pm
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Hi Joker

 

I am searching for an upgrade for my Sony MH1 with similar sound sig, but with a more precise Bass and overall sound quailty.

I like it's warmness (could be less though), smoothness and relaxed treble paired with the thick Bass.

 

Price should be under 350$. At the moment I have the FAD Heaven VI and JVX FX850 in mind.

 

Any other suggestions? Thanks for the thread!

post #14469 of 16849
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Originally Posted by peter123 View Post
 

OK, none of those strikes me as particulary balanced so I guess we just hear things really different :wink_face:

Sorry, Pete. I meant when only comparing both.

 

Of course I know the SR80 is mostly V shaped, but with the bass on the SE-CL31's keeping great balance to the rest of the their signature it portrays to resemble more of a balanced IEM. They have a pretty engaging and addictive sound. I hope 'Joker' gets to check them into his list of next reviews.


Edited by 1clearhead - 9/2/14 at 7:03pm
post #14470 of 16849
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Originally Posted by encoreAC View Post
 

Hi Joker

 

I am searching for an upgrade for my Sony MH1 with similar sound sig, but with a more precise Bass and overall sound quailty.

I like it's warmness (could be less though), smoothness and relaxed treble paired with the thick Bass.

 

Price should be under 350$. At the moment I have the FAD Heaven VI and JVX FX850 in mind.

 

Any other suggestions? Thanks for the thread!

For 230$ I'd strongly suggest the ath ckr 9. You can audition them first if you can.

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I'll be getting some of the ones that were requested most over the summer out of the way soon.

 

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Originally Posted by encoreAC View Post
 

Hi Joker

 

I am searching for an upgrade for my Sony MH1 with similar sound sig, but with a more precise Bass and overall sound quailty.

I like it's warmness (could be less though), smoothness and relaxed treble paired with the thick Bass.

 

Price should be under 350$. At the moment I have the FAD Heaven VI and JVX FX850 in mind.

 

Any other suggestions? Thanks for the thread!

 

Can't really think of a perfect match of what you want out of the sets I have tried (no experience with the FX850 or Heaven VI). Sounds like a Brainwavz R3 or Sony MDR-7550 with the bass boosted closer to MH1C level. It seems most sets that have MH1C-quantity bass don't share its smoothness and vice versa. . 

post #14472 of 16849
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Hi Joker

I am searching for an upgrade for my Sony MH1 with similar sound sig, but with a more precise Bass and overall sound quailty.
I like it's warmness (could be less though), smoothness and relaxed treble paired with the thick Bass.

Price should be under 350$. At the moment I have the FAD Heaven VI and JVX FX850 in mind.

Any other suggestions? Thanks for the thread!

The FX850 has a lot of delicacy with a large and powerful bass presentation but it doesn't have relaxed treble like the MH1. Really a great IEM if used with a front vent mod to reduce bass presence IMO, but maybe not what you're looking for. Hope that helps a bit.
post #14473 of 16849
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Originally Posted by SyedZ2ez4 View Post

For 230$ I'd strongly suggest the ath ckr 9. You can audition them first if you can.

I second this.

The treble of the new ckr is relaxed yet defined.

The mids are forward but not sibilant.

The lows are beautiful, eargasmic even.

Not even basshead territory either, or at least not the direction where it overwhelms people.

Soundstaging is phenomenal and beats most iems I have in that regard. Not until I get the havis that is, lol.
Edited by vlenbo - 9/2/14 at 10:54pm
post #14474 of 16849
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Originally Posted by vwinter View Post

The FX850 has a lot of delicacy with a large and powerful bass presentation but it doesn't have relaxed treble like the MH1. Really a great IEM if used with a front vent mod to reduce bass presence IMO, but maybe not what you're looking for. Hope that helps a bit.

This is true. The bass is amazing, but the 850's treble is clear and sometimes outright aggressive with certain tracks/sources.
post #14475 of 16849
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Originally Posted by encoreAC View Post
 

Hi Joker

 

I am searching for an upgrade for my Sony MH1 with similar sound sig, but with a more precise Bass and overall sound quailty.

I like it's warmness (could be less though), smoothness and relaxed treble paired with the thick Bass.

 

Price should be under 350$. At the moment I have the FAD Heaven VI and JVX FX850 in mind.

 

Any other suggestions? Thanks for the thread!

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Originally Posted by vwinter View Post

The FX850 has a lot of delicacy with a large and powerful bass presentation but it doesn't have relaxed treble like the MH1. Really a great IEM if used with a front vent mod to reduce bass presence IMO, but maybe not what you're looking for. Hope that helps a bit.

 

Agreed. I love the FX850 to bits, but "relaxed" isn't how I'd describe their treble lol. ;)

 

How about the Sony XBA-H3? They combine a warm / powerful low end with smooth / relaxed treble and can be easily modded to bring down bass level if desired.

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