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post #1216 of 16803

Yes please with the SM3...when you give it a 10 send them over here.eek.gif

post #1217 of 16803

Joker, been meaning to ask you...what's your take on break-in as far as IEMs are concerned?  Do you feel they benefit at all from doing it?  I think unlike a full size phone or something with capacitors in it they don't seem to need it, especially with armature designs.  I suppose a small dynamic speaker would react much like a full size one does though, and some break-in would help.  In your testing and reviewing process do you just take them as they are out of the box, or do you have any sort of guideline for break-in?  Thx. in advance!

post #1218 of 16803

Hi Joker

 

Just wanted to add +1 vote on you reviewing these 2 IEM's (if they come your way of course ,no stress)

 

 

RE-262

GR-10

 

 

I am finally starting to swim on my own here and not feel like a complete noob, but i will NEVER forget what a HUGE help this thread was in helping me decide on my first serious IEM (a pair of re-zero)

 

Keep up the good work my friend beerchug.gif

post #1219 of 16803
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Originally Posted by proedros View Post

Hi Joker

 

Just wanted to add +1 vote on you reviewing these 2 IEM's (if they come your way of course ,no stress)

 

 

RE-262

GR-10

 

 

I am finally starting to swim on my own here and not feel like a complete noob, but i will NEVER forget what a HUGE help this thread was in helping me decide on my first serious IEM (a pair of re-zero)

 

Keep up the good work my friend beerchug.gif

 

 

1+ still waiting on the SM3, I'm thinking a bullying session must take place. ksc75smile.gif
 


Edited by Confispect - 11/18/10 at 12:19pm
post #1220 of 16803
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Originally Posted by Golden Monkey View Post

Joker, been meaning to ask you...what's your take on break-in as far as IEMs are concerned?  Do you feel they benefit at all from doing it?  I think unlike a full size phone or something with capacitors in it they don't seem to need it, especially with armature designs.  I suppose a small dynamic speaker would react much like a full size one does though, and some break-in would help.  In your testing and reviewing process do you just take them as they are out of the box, or do you have any sort of guideline for break-in?  Thx. in advance!


 

I always give my dynamics a flat 100 hours of burn-in to rule out any variables. I do think that some of my dynamics have changed (not necessarily improved) with burn-in but I've never heard a difference from an armature-based earphone though, to be fair, I've only purchased a couple of armature-based earphones with crossovers brand new. I keep BA burn-in at around 40 hours just to be safe but don't really believe in it.

 

My burn-in rig is consistent - a Fiio S3 (used as a low-voltage USB-powered DAP) and a 5-way 3.5mm splitter. I level the volume to just above listening volume with the lowest-impedance earphone/headphone that's connected. The player has a 256mb SD card loaded with pink noise/white noise/random music and a 30 min 'blank' track. Played sequentially it gets to the 30 min 'break' every loop so about every 3.5-4 hours.

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by proedros View Post

Hi Joker

 

Just wanted to add +1 vote on you reviewing these 2 IEM's (if they come your way of course ,no stress)

 

 

RE-262

GR-10

 


I have the RE262 - I just forgot to add it to the 'planned review' list. Hope to get to it soon as I actually do enjoy it quite a bit.


Edited by ljokerl - 11/18/10 at 12:07pm
post #1221 of 16803

Just curious but have you gotten a pair of Xcape? I have a pair in my ears right now and think they might be something you enjoy. It's not analytical like a CK10 but it's still pretty enjoyable at least from my short listening time with them so far.

post #1222 of 16803

Hi!

 

I saw on in the Fischer Audio DBA-02 Review that you used etymotic triple flanges or the shure tips if I remember well.

I don't like the tips provided from fischer but I find the foam tips from q-jays to do the job. The thing is it doesn't git well.

Do you know of any foam tip that is the size of the q-jays tips but that has the nozzle size of DBA-02. I ask so because I use the foam tips that came with my triple fi 10, but they are too lengthy which absorbs the highs I think.

post #1223 of 16803
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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post

I have the RE262 - I just forgot to add it to the 'planned review' list. Hope to get to it soon as I actually do enjoy it quite a bit.



Is the fact that you have the RE262 in your signature now as your portable any indication of how much you like them? IIRC, that spot has been graced by the CK10 for quite some time :)

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Originally Posted by rawrster View Post

Just curious but have you gotten a pair of Xcape? I have a pair in my ears right now and think they might be something you enjoy. It's not analytical like a CK10 but it's still pretty enjoyable at least from my short listening time with them so far.

 

Yeah, I have an Xcape and I do like it. Very very dry sound (been using the RE262 and M3 lately) but excellent for the price on the whole.
 

 

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Originally Posted by mcnoiserdc View Post

Hi!

 

I saw on in the Fischer Audio DBA-02 Review that you used etymotic triple flanges or the shure tips if I remember well.

I don't like the tips provided from fischer but I find the foam tips from q-jays to do the job. The thing is it doesn't git well.

Do you know of any foam tip that is the size of the q-jays tips but that has the nozzle size of DBA-02. I ask so because I use the foam tips that came with my triple fi 10, but they are too lengthy which absorbs the highs I think.


I did't have any when I tried the DBA-02 but maybe the Shure/Ety foamies (orange/yellow ones) would work. Might have to stretch the inner core a bit but it should be a nice, tight fit. Those tubby q-JAYS tips are pretty unique though so maybe a reverse adapter mod (using the core from a another tip inside the q-JAYS core to make them stay on the nozzle is an option too.

 


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Originally Posted by EraserXIV View Post

Is the fact that you have the RE262 in your signature now as your portable any indication of how much you like them? IIRC, that spot has been graced by the CK10 for quite some time :)



No, my CK10s are out on loan so I didn't want to keep them in my sig. In their absence I do resort to the RE262 for casual listening but part of that is because some of my other decent IEMs (W2, TF10, IE7) are out also.

post #1225 of 16803

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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post

 


I did't have any when I tried the DBA-02 but maybe the Shure/Ety foamies (orange/yellow ones) would work. Might have to stretch the inner core a bit but it should be a nice, tight fit. Those tubby q-JAYS tips are pretty unique though so maybe a reverse adapter mod (using the core from a another tip inside the q-JAYS core to make them stay on the nozzle is an option too.

What you are recommending me for the q-jays tips, I am doing with the comply foams that came with triple fi 10. but I can't do that with the q-jays tips I have because the q-jays tips are damaged :(
 

post #1226 of 16803
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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post

 

Yeah, I have an Xcape and I do like it. Very very dry sound (been using the RE262 and M3 lately) but excellent for the price on the whole.


No, my CK10s are out on loan so I didn't want to keep them in my sig. In their absence I do resort to the RE262 for casual listening but part of that is because some of my other decent IEMs (W2, TF10, IE7) are out also.



Ah yes, dry is exactly how I would describe the Xcape. There was something peculiar about them and I just couldn't quite put my finger on it. They sound great, but coming from the Custom 3, e-Q7, and RE262 they are dry in comparison, which may be a good or bad thing depending on your preferences.

 

 

Haha interesting how you call it "resorting" to the RE262, as if they are some sort of torture device that you had to be forced to put on.

post #1227 of 16803
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Originally Posted by rawrster View Post

Just curious but have you gotten a pair of Xcape? I have a pair in my ears right now and think they might be something you enjoy. It's not analytical like a CK10 but it's still pretty enjoyable at least from my short listening time with them so far.

 

Yeah, I have an Xcape and I do like it. Very very dry sound (been using the RE262 and M3 lately) but excellent for the price on the whole.
 

 


Ah I'll wait for when the review on them comes out eventually probably not anytime soon. I listened to them most of the day and they are pretty enjoyable. I did get my TS02 back today in the mail so not sure how much time they will get ;p I was expecting the Xcape to be a more bassy earphone such as my HJE900 but I was surprised in a nice way. It's a good thing I have a policy of only owning earphones that I would use often or I'd be buying a whole bunch of earphones lately.

post #1228 of 16803
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Originally Posted by mcnoiserdc View Post
What you are recommending me for the q-jays tips, I am doing with the comply foams that came with triple fi 10. but I can't do that with the q-jays tips I have because the q-jays tips are damaged :(


Doesn't JAYS sell replacement tips? I know you can buy their silicones pretty easily, especially in Europe.

 

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Originally Posted by EraserXIV View Post

Ah yes, dry is exactly how I would describe the Xcape. There was something peculiar about them and I just couldn't quite put my finger on it. They sound great, but coming from the Custom 3, e-Q7, and RE262 they are dry in comparison, which may be a good or bad thing depending on your preferences.

 

Haha interesting how you call it "resorting" to the RE262, as if they are some sort of torture device that you had to be forced to put on.


Perhaps 'resorting' was the wrong word. I like the RE262 quite a bit but I usually try not to use sets that I still have in review for casual listening since I have a tendency to focus on the earphone and not the music. I don't do that with earphones I'm very familiar with so the CK10 would normally be my casual listening implement of choice. 

 

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Originally Posted by rawrster View Post

Ah I'll wait for when the review on them comes out eventually probably not anytime soon. I listened to them most of the day and they are pretty enjoyable. I did get my TS02 back today in the mail so not sure how much time they will get ;p I was expecting the Xcape to be a more bassy earphone such as my HJE900 but I was surprised in a nice way. 


Well Sunrise is responsible for some of the Head-Direct earphones. I didn't read much on the Xcape besides some random posts in recommendation threads and some short comparisons but for some reason it was exactly what I expected. I also like how the shell tapers towards the front - I think more manufacturers need to do that.

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by rawrster View Post
It's a good thing I have a policy of only owning earphones that I would use often or I'd be buying a whole bunch of earphones lately.

 

Yeah well... now I'm jealous tongue.gif.

post #1229 of 16803
Joker,

Using the MEElectronics M9 as the starting point, do you have a suggestion (up to ~$1500) for an IEM (or custom) that has similar bass (or slightly less) quantity, great bass quality, the same 3D headstage, but with great mids and fast ultra clear highs? I've come to appreciate these M9s more than when I first got them (certainly), but the crunchy highs are getting to me. I'm also considering a wholesale rig swap from traditional cans to IEMs (amped at home with desktop amp, no amp portably). The 3D headstage on these M9s is addictive, and going back and forth with my HE-6, the massive difference in bass quantity leaves me wanting IEMs.

Thanks,

Chris
post #1230 of 16803

I have no personal experience with these, but take a look at the JH16, which is supposedly the JH13, but with more bass.

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