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Indeed - the reason I didn't add it to the guide is that I couldn't neatly categorize it. To me it's somewhere between "balanced" and "v-shaped" as they are currently defined by the guide. It's close to balanced, but still not at the level of the VSonic VC02 or an Ety. At the same time, it's doesn't have as much bass as the sets I have categorized under "v-shaped". It's unfortunate but it's bound to happen when you try to pidgeonhole a whole bunch of different earphones into a few sound categories.

Quadbeats 2 coming out next month anyway. According to measurements better subbass and less sibilant as claimed by the manufacturer :)

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Originally Posted by kova4a View Post

That's interesting. I personally don't find VSD1 sounding wider - more like a bit fuller in the lower mids giving the impression the soundstage is bigger but rather in depth and very slightly in height than in width. But yeah, the VSD1S is a bit less prone to pointing out sibilance and to be honest lately I'm also leaning more towards it because of that and because of its flatter bass. Both are still great though.

 

Maybe you're right - the soundstage just seemed larger on the VSD1. In any case I had a good session with the VSD1S last night. They really can run with some very high-end earphones. 

 

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Quadbeats 2 coming out next month anyway. According to measurements better subbass and less sibilant as claimed by the manufacturer :)

 

That's good news. Would be nice if they also came with tips that didn't collapse.


Edited by ljokerl - 9/1/13 at 11:47am
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Thanks for the useful info ljokerl beerchug.gif

 

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Maybe you're right - the soundstage just seemed alrger on the VSD1. In any case I had a good session with the VSD1S last night. They really can run with some very high-end earphones. 

 

 

That's good news. Would be nice if they also came with tips that didn't collapse.

VS1S, second-best Vsonic dynamic yet?

 

Luckily LGQ2s will use fairly reliable single flange tips.

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VS1S, second-best Vsonic dynamic yet?

 

I think both the VSD1 and VSD1S are amazingly good for the price and IMO the best bang for buck vsonic has released (especially in China where it's like $32). It's a shame the VSD1 Limited Edition that's coming out on 15th next month was only for the Chinese market coz I really wanted to try it but it sold out in 2 days - aside from the higher impedance it's supposed to be tuned like the new VSD7.

Anyway, with such a price to performance ratio from vsonic I'm really wondering what their VSD9 will be like coz for a single dynamic driver iem from vsonic to cost $600 it should really be spectacular. Unfortunately, we might never get the chance to here it given there will be only 120 units made a year and how big the Chinese market is.


Edited by kova4a - 8/30/13 at 5:31am
post #11346 of 16803

I want vsd7 like astrotec ax60 or t-peos h-200)))

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Originally Posted by Bloodflowerz View Post

The problem I have with IEM is they never last long. I've had 2 x Beyer DTX101, Yuin PK2, Audio Technica and they've all developed a cable fault within a year. My GF is now in the market for a new IEM since her 20 month old Phonak IEM have developed an problem.

 

Is there such a thing as a solid, well built IEM?
 

Heck yes, take a look at the shure SE series. They have detachable cables. Actually, every IEM with detachable cables is way more durable, since you can easily swap the flimsiest part of it.

post #11348 of 16803
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Sounds like you just want something relatively accurate with punchy but tight bass. I would probably go for the GR07 Bass Edition from VSonic (unless the treble of the EPH-100/FX700 was too energetic for you, in which case I take that back). If you want to spend more the EarSonics SM64 may be a good option, with good bass, more (lower) midrange emphasis, and less energetic treble compared to the GR07

 Thanks.     i love the treble on the fx700  [and my ety er4:-) ].    is there any other higher end like the earsonics sm64- but with better trebble?

post #11349 of 16803
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Heck yes, take a look at the shure SE series. They have detachable cables. Actually, every IEM with detachable cables is way more durable, since you can easily swap the flimsiest part of it.

Instead you can have a failing connector. That's the new weakest link. But I like replacable cables. Thinking about my cat chewing up a pair of IE800's sends shivers down my spine..
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Thanks for the useful info ljokerl beerchug.gif

 

 

Any time beerchug.gif

 

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VS1S, second-best Vsonic dynamic yet?

 

Luckily LGQ2s will use fairly reliable single flange tips.

 

Sure looks that way.

 

I also find myself enjoying the VC1000. Thought I was over TWFKs...

 

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Originally Posted by kova4a View Post

I think both the VSD1 and VSD1S are amazingly good for the price and IMO the best bang for buck vsonic has released (especially in China where it's like $32). It's a shame the VSD1 Limited Edition that's coming out on 15th next month was only for the Chinese market coz I really wanted to try it but it sold out in 2 days - aside from the higher impedance it's supposed to be tuned like the new VSD7.

Anyway, with such a price to performance ratio from vsonic I'm really wondering what their VSD9 will be like coz for a single dynamic driver iem from vsonic to cost $600 it should really be spectacular. Unfortunately, we might never get the chance to here it given there will be only 120 units made a year and how big the Chinese market is.

 

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I want vsd7 like astrotec ax60 or t-peos h-200)))

 

You mean a BA-dynamic hybrid?

 

Anyway, I’m not super impressed with how Astrotec tuned their TWFK-based AX7. Time will tell if the AX60 is a hit or a miss. 

 

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Originally Posted by docked seaman View Post

 Thanks.     i love the treble on the fx700  [and my ety er4:-) ].    is there any other higher end like the earsonics sm64- but with better trebble?

 

Not without giving up something else. The UE900 for example, has more treble energy and extension but doesn’t have the bass of the SM64.

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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post

 

 

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You mean a BA-dynamic hybrid?

 

Anyway, I’m not super impressed with how Astrotec tuned their TWFK-based AX7. Time will tell if the AX60 is a hit or a miss. 

 

Well, apparently VSD9's diaphragm is made of something super rare and hard to obtain, so they can produce only a limited number of units a year. Vsonic's ceo said they changed the diaphragm like 5 times until they settled on this one.

As far as Astrotec's ax60 I'm slightly interested as vsonic is still silent about their k3003 clone but it's pretty funny how the vsonic's ceo is constantly making fun of Astrotec and even offered to help them with the ax60's tuning coz they obviously didn't know what they are doing.

edit: I just saw that Rin actually measured the ax60 and his opinion is that ax60 is "more of a fun college product gone weird" LOL, so I guess vsonic's ceo has a reason to mock them.


Edited by kova4a - 8/31/13 at 10:47am
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Originally Posted by kova4a View Post

Well, apparently VSD9's diaphragm is made of something super rare and hard to obtain, so they can produce only a limited number of units a year. Vsonic's ceo said they changed the diaphragm like 5 times until they settled on this one.

As far as Astrotec's ax60 I'm slightly interested as vsonic is still silent about their k3003 clone but it's pretty funny how the vsonic's ceo is constantly making fun of Astrotec and even offered to help them with the ax60's tuning coz they obviously didn't know what they are doing.

edit: I just saw that Rin actually measured the ax60 and his opinion is that ax60 is "more of a fun college product gone weird" LOL, so I guess vsonic's ceo has a reason to mock them.

 

That's an interesting culture they've got over there. Can't imagine a US brand issuing such a condescending statement about one of their competitors. 

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From the people who took 3 years and 3 months to get the GR07 out and didn't seem to finish the tuning till another year and a half with the MKII. They release a VSD1 and then a month later a limited edition of a low model like that. Why, cause they didn't finish tuning it! Annnnnd there will be another VSD1 re-tuned again early next year.

 

They should talk about tuning. They can't seem to finish tuning one before they put it out. Why buy a VSD7 when it comes out? They won't have finished tuning it yet, lol. Wait a couple months for the Limited or Flagship, or Silver, or MKII, or whatever version comes next.

 

The CEO should pipe down. At least Aurisonics, Dunu, Astrotec, TPEOS got their flagship products out there for better or for worse. Where is your flagshipwink_face.gif?

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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post

 

That's an interesting culture they've got over there. Can't imagine a US brand issuing such a condescending statement about one of their competitors. 

Well, in his defense, he usually deletes these posts shortly after he's made them but I guess he either can't stand competition or just finds it hilarious or insulting that Astrotec is considered vsonic's competitor. Who knows? He often bashes on other companies for their high prices and low performing products. Maybe he just feels obliged to share his opinion and findings on certain stuff. 

post #11355 of 16803
When vsonic's "half-assed" tuning is better than most balls to the wall tunings that other companies are putting out, they might get an occasional pass.

Other companies probably take just as long; they just don't tell you how long they've been working on it.
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