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post #11281 of 16802
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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post

I think you’re thinking of the Lime Ears LE3B. The LE3 is pretty neutral, maybe slightly warm but no more so than a HiFiMan RE-400, for example.

The CTM-200 doesn’t have any more deep bass than the Etys (in fact, I think it drops off a little more quickly) so it doesn’t really fit your requirements.

The Alclair Reference has the bass but lacks the level treble of the Etys. It sounds more like the GR07 at the top with some hotness/peaks. Other than that it’s quite good. Not sure what the Alclair dual sounds like. The quad-driver RSM is pretty consistent with the sound of the 3-driver reference, just better in terms of imaging, bass quality, and overall balance.

Will hopefully know how the Music One sounds in a few weeks!

Joker, many thanks for you help. I've decided to go for Peter's Pro210 (one of the members of our local Polish audio forum told me that pro210 share commonalities with Spiral Ears' dual driver SE 2-way pro).

 

However, maybe in one year or so I will buy myself more expensive CIEM. Correctly if I'm wrong but if I want to find the sound similar to Ety with more subbass and wider soundstage I should look at: Hidition NT 6 pro, Cosmic Ears BA4 or Canal works CW-L05QD; and what about 1964 Ears V3?


Edited by shakur1996 - 8/23/13 at 2:19am
post #11282 of 16802
Last question : AM800 vs http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/a-jays-one-earphones-black-p32359.htm
I've realised that because the headset isn't in the OP, you've either not heard them or heard of them but any info at all would be very useful. Main question is whether the Am800 +something to turn it into a headset is going to be better than the jays headset
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post #11283 of 16802

One quick question; I am currently eyeing the HiFiMan RE-400 Waterline.

Before I was looking at the rockit sounds r-50, but my songs have a bitrate of 210-224, and was told it would bring out the errors in the compression.

So my question is, will the RE-400 still sound good with those bitrates?

 

Thanks

post #11284 of 16802
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Originally Posted by Krismarzyk View Post

Joker, many thanks for you help. I've decided to go for Peter's Pro210 (one of the members of our local Polish audio forum told me that pro210 share commonalities with Spiral Ears' dual driver SE 2-way pro).

 

However, maybe in one year or so I will buy myself more expensive CIEM. Correctly if I'm wrong but if I want to find the sound similar to Ety with more subbass and wider soundstage I should look at: Hidition NT 6 pro, Cosmic Ears BA4 or Canal works CW-L05QD; and what about 1964 Ears V3?

 

I only have the regular NT6, not the pro. The Pro has an extra crossover and an extra bass driver and is said to have more bass, which is not necessary IMO as the NT 6 already improves on the ER4S with much better subbass response and more natural, fleshed-out bass overall. The 1964-V3 sounds way too colored to be an Ety upgrade.

 

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Originally Posted by AgentJ View Post

Last question : AM800 vs http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/a-jays-one-earphones-black-p32359.htm
I've realised that because the headset isn't in the OP, you've either not heard them or heard of them but any info at all would be very useful. Main question is whether the Am800 +something to turn it into a headset is going to be better than the jays headset
Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk 2

 

I haven't heard the a-JAYS. The t-JAYS were somewhat mediocre-sounding and the j-JAYS were crap.

 

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Originally Posted by Tyow View Post

One quick question; I am currently eyeing the HiFiMan RE-400 Waterline.

Before I was looking at the rockit sounds r-50, but my songs have a bitrate of 210-224, and was told it would bring out the errors in the compression.

So my question is, will the RE-400 still sound good with those bitrates?

 

Thanks

 

I think the RE-400 is more forgiving than the Rock-It but at the same time those bitrates aren't too bad. VBR mp3s can sound quite good. I'd still go with the RE-400 to be safe.

post #11285 of 16802
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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post

 

I only have the regular NT6, not the pro. The Pro has an extra crossover and an extra bass driver and is said to have more bass, which is not necessary IMO as the NT 6 already improves on the ER4S with much better subbass response and more natural, fleshed-out bass overall. The 1964-V3 sounds way too colored to be an Ety upgrade.

What about Canal works and Cosmic Ears BA4 (I found on innerfidelity that Cosmic Ears 4 driver model Reference is very similar to Ety).

post #11286 of 16802
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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post

I think the RE-400 is more forgiving than the Rock-It but at the same time those bitrates aren't too bad. VBR mp3s can sound quite good. I'd still go with the RE-400 to be safe.

Okay, thanks, also. Is the RE-400 the best neutral IEM I can get while still sounding good with those bitrates?

post #11287 of 16802

The R-50 almost require different tips than the stock ones to not be sibilant. Or they require very well mastered records with singers who don't emphasize their "S"-es. But I haven't heard Re-400.

post #11288 of 16802
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Originally Posted by MoonYeol View Post

The R-50 almost require different tips than the stock ones to not be sibilant. Or they require very well mastered records with singers who don't emphasize their "S"-es. But I haven't heard Re-400.

I think I would get the etymotic tri-flange tips.

post #11289 of 16802
Hmm… that sounds like the Yamaha EPH-100 to me. Great bass with good depth, very good isolation for a dynamic-driver earphone, and the build is pretty solid.
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Thanks for the reply joker. I thought the EPH100 seemed like the best option as well. My only concern was the size of the nozzle. I use the small tips on the SHE3580, so do you think I would have fit/comfort issues?
Edited by Prakhar - 8/23/13 at 12:39pm
post #11290 of 16802
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Originally Posted by Prakhar View Post

Hmm… that sounds like the Yamaha EPH-100 to me. Great bass with good depth, very good isolation for a dynamic-driver earphone, and the build is pretty solid.
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Thanks for the reply joker. I thought the EPH100 seemed like the best option as well. My only concern was the size of the nozzle. I use the small tips on the SHE3580, so do you think I would have fit/comfort issues?

Am I right that the Philips is some 15 USD - and the Yamaha is some 150 USD ? What we're talking about   ???  blink.gif

post #11291 of 16802
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Originally Posted by Prakhar View Post

Hey joker, I bought the SHE3580 and was looking for an upgrade and was hoping you could help me out. I was looking for something with more bass than the SHE3580, better build quality and slightly better isolation. Any suggestions?

post #11292 of 16802

So then Joker, any ideas what the iem is going to be that is number 300 (!) in the review list?  Perhaps the tf10 finally :P ?

 

Thanks for all the help and recommendations along the way.

post #11293 of 16802
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Originally Posted by davidcotton View Post

So then Joker, any ideas what the iem is going to be that is number 300 (!) in the review list?  Perhaps the tf10 finally :P ?

Thanks for all the help and recommendations along the way.

If he ever posted that TF10 review, it would likely break the internets.
post #11294 of 16802

Joker,

I asked about an alternative to the Brainwavz B2. I have since found it is very sensitive to sources IMO. Direct from my iPhone, it just hurts. But when I add in the little Fiio E6 amp, it really takes the edge off. Also the Bass Eq really does wonders for these things. 

 

In the mean time, I am trying the GR07 BE again (had a set before) and the Yamaha EPH-100. I am still burning in the EPH-100s. The GR07s are loaners and broken in. I must say, I prefer the sound of the EPH-100s much better. The GR07s have a little more presence at the top but do not seem nearly as coherent overall. I am not sure how to put what I am hearing but the Yamaha's just have a fuller sound. Not really in a bass-mid-treble sort of way but fuller in that they just sound more musical to my ears. And this is with all types of music. 

 

So for now, I am going to put some more time in this weekend but I am leaning to giving my buddy the 07s back and just keeping the Yamaha's to supplement the B2s. 

post #11295 of 16802

Why are people asking for reviews of IEMs that have been covered in depth by countless other reviewers?  For me the best part of this thread is that Joker covers esoteric and less popular options sometimes uncovering gems in the process.

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