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post #11266 of 16803
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The SE-3 is the only Spiral Ear I've tried but I should have my hands on the Music One soon.

 

Is the Lime Ears LE3 still out of budget?

I've listened to Peter's Music One and I've read review of average_joe, but due to your sound taste" I'm very curious about your impressions and how you will rate them in terms of sound quality.

 

I'm considering buying Peter's Pro210. However, I want to chose wisely so I need more options (so I'm also thinkg about Grzegorz's SE 1-way Pro).

 

Unfortunately yes - Lime Ears are out of my budget. I can spend around USD 400. But, from what I have read it seems that LE are rather warm IEMs; so maybe they would not be good for me.

 

What about CTM-200? Alclair Reference or Dual?

 

My new CIEMs don't have to be exact as Etys but I would like to them being as close as possible to Etys in terms of accuracy; more subbass is more than welcome.

post #11267 of 16803
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Upcoming release from EarSonics:


http://theheadphonelist.com/category/news/

 

 

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Originally Posted by Krismarzyk View Post

Unfortunately yes - Lime Ears are out of my budget. I can spend around USD 400. But, from what I have read it seems that LE are rather warm IEMs; so maybe they would not be good for me.

 

What about CTM-200? Alclair Reference or Dual?

 

My new CIEMs don't have to be exact as Etys but I would like to them being as close as possible to Etys in terms of accuracy; more subbass is more than welcome.

 

 

I think you’re thinking of the Lime Ears LE3B. The LE3 is pretty neutral, maybe slightly warm but no more so than a HiFiMan RE-400, for example.

The CTM-200 doesn’t have any more deep bass than the Etys (in fact, I think it drops off a little more quickly) so it doesn’t really fit your requirements.

The Alclair Reference has the bass but lacks the level treble of the Etys. It sounds more like the GR07 at the top with some hotness/peaks. Other than that it’s quite good. Not sure what the Alclair dual sounds like. The quad-driver RSM is pretty consistent with the sound of the 3-driver reference, just better in terms of imaging, bass quality, and overall balance.

Will hopefully know how the Music One sounds in a few weeks!

post #11268 of 16803
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Has anyone found a place to order this thing http://hal-hen.com/cgi-bin/info.cgi?id=2506&ls=dc~P~107 ? I want to be able to extract filters without damaging them.

X2
post #11269 of 16803

Joker what would you recommend as a very bassy (but still good sq) ~20$ iem preferably through amazon? I've been thinking about the she3580 but i'm worried since i would also use these iems for running (mostly just walking from place to place though) and wear my iems cable down that the microphonics would be too much? I listen at 85-90db.

post #11270 of 16803

I'm excited to learn about a new Earsonics product.  Half a dozen times I've come close to pulling the trigger on a set.  Maybe this will be the one.

post #11271 of 16803

HI Joker! I would like to ask, is there any possibility of you reviewing the TDK BA200 in future? I know it is not in your planned review list but still just wanted know. I am very impressed with these iems and to me they sound better than anything I have heard thus far, including the likes of w4, um3x, sm3 v1/2, gr07,xba 40, fidelio s2 and even the heir audio 4a customs. I absolutely love it and it would be of great interest to know your opinion of them relative to all the high end iems that you have heard so far. 

post #11272 of 16803
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Originally Posted by lilboozy View Post

Joker what would you recommend as a very bassy (but still good sq) ~20$ iem preferably through amazon? I've been thinking about the she3580 but i'm worried since i would also use these iems for running (mostly just walking from place to place though) and wear my iems cable down that the microphonics would be too much? I listen at 85-90db.

 

The SHE3580 isn't even that bassy. JVC FX101, maybe? JVC cable is quieter, too.

 

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Originally Posted by omastic View Post

HI Joker! I would like to ask, is there any possibility of you reviewing the TDK BA200 in future? I know it is not in your planned review list but still just wanted know. I am very impressed with these iems and to me they sound better than anything I have heard thus far, including the likes of w4, um3x, sm3 v1/2, gr07,xba 40, fidelio s2 and even the heir audio 4a customs. I absolutely love it and it would be of great interest to know your opinion of them relative to all the high end iems that you have heard so far. 


Yes, there's a good chance I'll get to try them soon.

post #11273 of 16803
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Originally Posted by Krismarzyk View Post

Hidition is very pricey and currently I can't afford them.

Which cheaper CIEM you would consider as most balanced and accurate (and thus similar to Etys). Did you hear Spiral Ear SE 1-way Pro?

I'm curious about your impressions on The Custom Art's Music One; hope to see the review soon.

Regarding remold I actually use my Etys with custom tips made by piotrus-g (I stop using triple flange due to that sometimes I very easily lost seal and this was very annoying).

I think that you should check out project86's review of the cosmic ears BA4 either here or on innerfidelity. Just be sure to look at the review of the R-revision and not the F.
post #11274 of 16803

I still hope that joker will begin to review philips iems sometime soon...

post #11275 of 16803
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I still hope that joker will begin to review philips iems sometime soon...

well, he's pretty much reviewed the fidelio s1 and s2 on innerfidelity, so I guess he might add them here soon when he decides on the final scores.

post #11276 of 16803

My trusty SHE3570s finally died out and I need a recommendation for a new go to IEM.

 

Based on my price range, I've narrowed it down to the Sony MH1C, LG Quadbeat, Dunu Trident, JVC HA-FX40, and the Sony MDR-EX300. I do enjoy a good V-shaped sound signature, but I can't stand poor microphonics which is why I haven't immediately chosen the MH1Cs. If anyone has any personal insights and comparisons to the SHE35XX series, I'd love to hear them.

post #11277 of 16803

Hey joker, I bought the SHE3580 and was looking for an upgrade and was hoping you could help me out. I was looking for something with more bass than the SHE3580, better build quality and slightly better isolation. Any suggestions?

post #11278 of 16803
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Posted a short article on IEM fitment on InnerFidelity, now linked on the front page of this thread:

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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post

For a brief overview of IEM fitment, see my article on InnerFidelity:

How to Insert In-Ear Monitors


 

 

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by kova4a View Post

well, he's pretty much reviewed the fidelio s1 and s2 on innerfidelity, so I guess he might add them here soon when he decides on the final scores.

 
Yep, will add them when I get a chance. There seems to always be several in-progress reviews I want to finish ASAP. 
 
I do use the Fidelios as a benchmark these days and even included the S1 in the short buyer’s guide.
 
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Originally Posted by puckshock View Post

My trusty SHE3570s finally died out and I need a recommendation for a new go to IEM.

 

Based on my price range, I've narrowed it down to the Sony MH1C, LG Quadbeat, Dunu Trident, JVC HA-FX40, and the Sony MDR-EX300. I do enjoy a good V-shaped sound signature, but I can't stand poor microphonics which is why I haven't immediately chosen the MH1Cs. If anyone has any personal insights and comparisons to the SHE35XX series, I'd love to hear them.

 

The MH1C and Trident aren’t notably v-shaped IMO. The Quadbeat has some cable noise, though it’s a little better than the MH1C. The EX300 and FX40 are much better in this regard.
 
How about the VSonic VSD1? It’s v-shaped, but not too v-shaded (reminds me of the VSonic GR07 Bass Edition) and the cable noise isn’t terrible, especially when worn cable-up.
  
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Originally Posted by Prakhar View Post

Hey joker, I bought the SHE3580 and was looking for an upgrade and was hoping you could help me out. I was looking for something with more bass than the SHE3580, better build quality and slightly better isolation. Any suggestions?

 
 
Hmm… that sounds like the Yamaha EPH-100 to me. Great bass with good depth, very good isolation for a dynamic-driver earphone, and the build is pretty solid.
post #11279 of 16803
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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post

 

The SHE3580 isn't even that bassy. JVC FX101, maybe? JVC cable is quieter, too.

Also do they have decent stock tips because i don't have any extras? Then again they are only $15 so i could get some sony hybrids if needed

post #11280 of 16803
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Signature Acoustics Elements C-12 review below

 

 

(3A82) Signature Acoustics Elements C-12
 

Added Aug 2013

 
Details: Entry-level earphone from the first Indian IEM manufacturer 
Specs: Driver: Dynamic | Imp: 18Ω | Sens: 102 dB | Freq: 17-20k Hz | Cable: 3.9' L-plug
Nozzle Size: 5.5mm | Preferred tips: Generic single-flanges
Wear Style: Straight down or over-the-ear
 
Accessories (3.5/5) - Single-flange silicone tips (3 sizes), replacement filters, shirt clip, and genuine leather zippered carrying pouch (limited first run also comes with heavy screw-top brass case)
Build Quality (4/5) – The wooden housings of the C-12 are a little plain but well put-together. The earphones feature replaceable filters, which is a rarity these days. The textured cable is nice and sturdy, reminding me of the cords on the Brainwavz M1/M2/M3 earphones. No cable cinch is present
Isolation (3/5) – Shallow fit results in average noise isolation
Microphonics (4.5/5) – Good with cable-down wear; even better when worn over-the-ear
Comfort (4/5) – The wooden housings are very lightweight and not overly large, allowing for a comfortable fit
 
Sound (7.3/10) – The C-12 is an unabashedly bass-heavy earphone that focuses on presenting listeners with a big and impactful low end. The midbass region is hyped up, resulting in a slightly boomy sound and making the deep bass appear less prominent. Earphones such as the VSonic GR02 Bass Edition and Dunu Trident, which are by no means lacking in bass, both yield to the C-12 in overall impact, offering a more linear response better balanced between midbass and subbass. Suffice it to say that no one will find the bass of the C-12 deficient. 
 
As a result of the bass boost, the mids of the C-12 are mildly veiled but at the same time maintain a warm and rich tone. Note thickness is rather good, though for my tastes the earphones could use more midrange presence and clarity. Clarity and detail levels are about on-par with the Brainwavz M2 and the older bass-heavy Xears models. The top end rolls off gently for a slightly dark overall tone and has a smoother character than, for example, VSonic earphones and the Astrotec AM-800. This makes it less fatiguing and more tolerable at high volumes. At the same time, the C-12 has a bit more sparkle than the aging Brainwavz M1 and M2 models, which is a plus.
 
The presentation of the C-12 is nice and spacious, making competitors such as the Dunu Trident sound closed-in and congested in comparison. It’s not quite at the level of the pricier Astrotec AM-800 but comes very close, which is all the more impressive considering the more bass-heavy balance and darker tone of the C-12. Combined with the powerful bass, the spacious presentation makes for a very enjoyable listening experience.
 
Value (8/10) – The Signature Acoustics Elements C-12 is a very capable earphone from the first India-based IEM manufacturer. A solid all-rounder with even more solid bass response, the Elements C-12 boasts slightly rolled-off treble and a spacious, reverberant presentation. The wooden housings are lightweight and comfortable in the ear while the twisted cables are strong and non-microphonic, making for convenient listening while out and about. Minor details such as packaging are slightly rough around the edges but one thing is certain: the Elements C-12 doesn’t look – or sound – like a freshman effort. 
 
Pros: Lightweight housings & strong cables; impactful bass; good sense of space
Cons: Somewhat veiled midrange

 

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by lilboozy View Post

Also do they have decent stock tips because i don't have any extras? Then again they are only $15 so i could get some sony hybrids if needed

 

In my experience stock JVC tips are usually acceptable. I didn't have any trouble with the FX101.


Edited by ljokerl - 8/26/13 at 5:46pm
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