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The dip at ~22K makes it a deal breaker for me.. such lazy tuning.

 

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     thats not what you hear .

post #11147 of 16802
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Can one trust manufacturers' FR graphs?

 


     nope , its not totally reliable .

post #11148 of 16802
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Originally Posted by music_4321 View Post

Can one trust manufacturers' FR graphs?

 

Look at the scale. It suddenly drops off 30 dB from 7 kHz to 12 kHz.

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Looks closer to 20dB from 7k. But it also looks really smoothed like Inks said so...
Sexy design though. That's worth a few dBs I think. biggrin.gif
Edited by vwinter - 8/8/13 at 6:31am
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Originally Posted by FlySweep View Post

 

The dip at ~22K makes it a deal breaker for me.. such lazy tuning.

 

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I know!

 

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Originally Posted by suman134 View Post


     nope , its not totally reliable .

 

It was more of a rhetorical question.

 

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Look at the scale. It suddenly drops off 30 dB from 7 kHz to 12 kHz.

 

It's actually 25dB not 30 — yes, a pretty steep dip, but I remain curious. If that graph turns out to be fairly close to the real thing, I wonder what these IEMs will sound like. At least good old grumpy sparrows already know that a FR graph does not always correlate to what they hear in the real world.


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Couple of new higher-end IEM releases from RHA. Hopefully more of the good stuff that made the entry-level MA-350 enjoyable.

 

ljokerl, did you get one yet?  If not, will you be getting one in soon?

 

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Looks nice --- the MA750 looks like the CK100PRO and the K3003 had a baby delivered by Reid Heath. I like the stainless steel tips tray too.

 

Schmexy!  smile.gif  Need someone to cover it for Cymba?  wink.gif

 

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Originally Posted by music_4321 View Post

Can one trust manufacturers' FR graphs?

 

 

Lol, I don't even remotely care about their graph right now... but to answer your question, nope.  smile.gif  I just want to hear the thing

 

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Originally Posted by FlySweep View Post

The dip at ~22K makes it a deal breaker for me.. such lazy tuning.

 

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LOL!  biggrin.gif

 


 

Also, more info and pics here:  http://www.head-fi.org/t/675848/new-rha-iems-the-ma750i-and-ma600i


Edited by warrenpchi - 8/8/13 at 8:16am


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post #11152 of 16802
What's with the supersonic peak? That's probably around 25-30k :O
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Originally Posted by tomscy2000 View Post

Looks nice --- the MA750 looks like the CK100PRO and the K3003 had a baby delivered by Reid Heath. I like the stainless steel tips tray too.

 

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^ Ha, I'd rather say the K3003 had a bit on the side with a FAD 1601. wink.gif

 

No complaints here, I would have all of my favorite IEMs in stainless steel if I could. Especially my customs tongue.gif

 

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The dip at ~22K makes it a deal breaker for me.. such lazy tuning.

 

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Hi,

 

it's time for a new iem and i have limit circa 130$. I read many of reviews and i'm choosing between sennheiser ie60 and hifiman re-400 but i can't find any comparison between them (maybe it's obvious). Or vsonic gr06 seems to be great considering it's price, but is it comparable with ie60 and re400?

I listen to rock-metal, but also classical and accoustic, mostly while traveling (train, bus).

What would you suggest?

 

Thanks!

 

I haven't heard the IE60 but I have the IE6 and it's not as good as the RE-400. Neither is the GR06. If you want a pretty flat/neutral sound with smooth treble, the RE-400 is the one to get in that price range.

 

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ljokerl, did you get one yet?  If not, will you be getting one in soon?


All I got is a press release redface.gif. I'm a sucker for stainless steel, though, so I'll see if I can get one.

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Lol, I don't even remotely care about their graph right now... but to answer your question, nope.  smile.gif  

 

Oh, rest assured I learned my lesson when FAD had claimed the Piano Fortes had a perfectly flat FR curve — when I saw that, I eagerly went ahead and ordered a pair of PF IXs, only to later realise the FR was ever so slightly skewed.

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Oh, rest assured I learned my lesson when FAD had claimed the Piano Fortes had a perfectly flat FR curve — when I saw that, I eagerly went ahead and ordered a pair of PF IXs, only to later realise the FR was ever so slightly skewed.

 

Just a tad off in spots eh?  biggrin.gif


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post #11156 of 16802

That is a really weird, compressed FR graph.

 

Anyways, joker, I guess neither of the PNY headphones intrigued you as they're on the "not going to get a full review" list, but how are the cables?  They midtowns are cheap, I figured I might get them just to cannibalize the cable for another project.

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Originally Posted by jekostas View Post

That is a really weird, compressed FR graph.

 

Anyways, joker, I guess neither of the PNY headphones intrigued you as they're on the "not going to get a full review" list, but how are the cables?  They midtowns are cheap, I figured I might get them just to cannibalize the cable for another project.


Actually there are a whole bunch of earphones I haven't had a chance to categorize yet (thanks for the reminder!).

 

I have the PNY Midtowns and the Uptowns and they are both not bad. Nice deep bass that's reasonably tight, and good overall clarity. They sound like a lot of other cheaper earphones that are decent but generally lackluster - the Noontec Rio, for example. Good news is the PNYs are like $15 on Amazon and at that price I have no complaints.

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Hey Joker, great thread you have here! I'm just getting into IEMs and need something portable to replace my full-sized cans. What would you recommend that's "fun" but still relatively neutral, with tight bass and easy highs? For reference I love my FA-003/HM5, although I wouldn't mind something a little more exciting either. The one thing I can't stand is harsh highs. I'm just going to be using these while walking around campus, so I couldn't care less about soundstage and detail retrieval, but isolation needs to be good. I'm really just interested in getting that sound signature and clarity. $150 is my budget but buying used is totally a possibility.

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Hi Joker, hope you are doing good... Now what would be an ideal upgrade to MH1c and Quadbeat, i got both and although i think both are superbly good for the price, would GR07BE at discounted prices be worth the investment? Or RE400?

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Hey Joker, great thread you have here! I'm just getting into IEMs and need something portable to replace my full-sized cans. What would you recommend that's "fun" but still relatively neutral, with tight bass and easy highs? For reference I love my FA-003/HM5, although I wouldn't mind something a little more exciting either. The one thing I can't stand is harsh highs. I'm just going to be using these while walking around campus, so I couldn't care less about soundstage and detail retrieval, but isolation needs to be good. I'm really just interested in getting that sound signature and clarity. $150 is my budget but buying used is totally a possibility.

 

A few that come to mind:

HiFiMan RE-400 - smooth and very clear, with tight bass and neutral tone. However, it has less bass than what I remember of the FA-003. If you're using them primarily in noisy environments you may not be satisfied with the bass response.

Yamaha EPH-100 - these are the opposite of the RE-400 on the bass front, deep and powerful. They are a warm and fun-sounding IEM with pretty inoffensive treble. Too much bass might be a problem in this case but I thought the low end was rather well-done on these and their isolation would work nicely for use outside.

Sony MH1C - much cheaper than the others but they have a very smooth sound with bass that is pretty well-controlled considering its quantity. Isolation is above average and clarity is generally good, though behind the two sets mentioned above.

Shure SE215 - somewhat similar to the MH1C but a bit less refined. Makes up for it in user-friendliness, construction quality, and isolation. Again, a warmer sound, but this type of signature is probably your best bet if you want smooth treble and a bit of added "fun".

 

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Hi Joker, hope you are doing good... Now what would be an ideal upgrade to MH1c and Quadbeat, i got both and although i think both are superbly good for the price, would GR07BE at discounted prices be worth the investment? Or RE400?


While I do consider the VSonic and HiFiMan to be upgrades over those two, you may be surprised how close the Sony/LG already are to the good $100-200 earphones. Anyway, you should expect something along these lines:

 

RE-400: good if you like the clarity and more neutral tone of the Quadbeat over the warmer, fuller sound of the MH1C. It won't have the bass depth of the Sony or the soundstage width of the LG, but it makes up for it with a balanced and neutral presentation, treble smoothness, and very clean bass.

GR07BE: bassier than the RE-400 but also has more prominent treble a-la Quadbeat. Wider presentation than the RE-400 but the top end is not as smooth.

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