Multi-IEM Review - 352 IEMs compared (Pump Audio Earphones added 04/03/16 p. 1106)
Jun 20, 2013 at 1:50 PM Post #10,697 of 16,931
Hey I recently bought vsonic gr06 and though the sound nice (bass good mids good treble fine) I somehow find sound little congested I.e. iem not seem to sound openly/fully is it normal at start and will this improve after some burn in or they have this little narrow kinda sound? Otherwise they are fine
 
Jun 20, 2013 at 1:50 PM Post #10,698 of 16,931
hello!
one of my weird questions again...hope some of you may relate :)
so...i like to my Sparks / Meelec A161P around the ear,
but what happens is that using this method the cables are always
being a little wrapped around my neck which i really dislike.
if i use a clip to attach the cable to my shirt it solves it,
but i also don't like that..
are all iem like this? it seems if the cable were longer and thicker it might solved it,
but i don't want to spend 100$ for the Shure SE215 just for that matter without
any real sound improvement.....
 
Jun 20, 2013 at 2:08 PM Post #10,699 of 16,931
Jun 20, 2013 at 7:46 PM Post #10,700 of 16,931
At $69.99 shipped, these A161P's are about 40% off from Amazon.  If they were value rated 8.5, before, just curious as to what would you rate these out at the sale price?
 
I picked up a set that I plan on using on motorcycle trips, since these are supposed to isolate well.  I am using a Westone UM2 now and I hope I will like the A161P's much better.  I always thought the UM2's sounded meh.  Not much clarity in the highs, and not great bass.  Just alot of muddy mids, IMHO
 
Thank you for your post.  This has got to be the most comprehensive review of any one type of product I have ever seen.  I appreciate it and have bookmarked it!
 
Jun 20, 2013 at 8:08 PM Post #10,701 of 16,931
Jesus, why don't search a bit before posting?

http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/philips-fidelio-s1-and-s2-ear-headphones

He has a full review of them here and if you had searched this thread you would have known.


Hi sinquito, I did my search about it and have read the IF reviews. I sought for joker's thoughts in regards to the differences to the iems I currently own.

Perhaps you should read through all the post I've posted leading to this post before commenting.

Anyway, it's a long thread and you might have missed some post but please kindly hold your guns before you shoot aimlessly.

Sorry joker for side tracking and thanks again for your thoughts.
 
Jun 20, 2013 at 9:21 PM Post #10,702 of 16,931
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I have found myself struggling with deciding where my next move with IEMs will be. I, like many I'm sure, made small and incremental investments with full size cans, amps and DACs over the years. I am very happy with where I am at at this time. I have, however, been traveling for work more and more and find myself revisiting my IEMs. I have always been content with my IEMs based on the small amount of time per week that I used them, but now that that time has increased I've been looking for more.

I think I would like to stick with an IEM, rather than a CIEM at this time. I have enjoyed the clarity and balance of my GR07 (wishing it had more to offer in the low end), but appreciate the soundstage of the EPH-100 more. Comparing apples to oranges of course, but I have been completely happy with my HD800s in the full size headphone field, so I would ideally like something that has a similar sound signature with maybe a touch more low end. I spend most of my time listening to classic rock, but spend plenty of time listening to acoustic tracks (where my HD800s really shine), classical, techno, etc.

I've toyed with budget, not wanting to play quite so much with several incremental updates in the IEM field as I did with full size cans. I think my preference would be to keep it no more than $800, but flexible. I've drooled a bit over reviews of IEMs like the K3003, but do not want to spend quite that much on IEMs. I spent a lot of time researching the QI and the IE800, but am not convinced that I would be happy with either of those (I can be an incredibly indecisive person). Ive been toying with the idea of trying out the PFE 232s since some can still be found around $400.

Any recommendations?

 
It really does sound like the K3003 is the way to go. Personally, I don't think the PFE 232 will cut it for you. It's similar enough the GR07, especially on the soundstage front, where it is still more like the GR07 than the K3003, that you may well be left wondering where the extra $300 went. 
 
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Ety Kids (300 ohm), does it has the same SQ as "normal" MC3/5 ?

 
It sounds slightly different but is pretty close and a better value IMO if you can deal with the lower volume. My pair has good channel balance, at least that I can hear. Yes, it's a little hard to drive but I still don't come anywhere near maxing the volume on my J3 or E7. 
 
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Hi joker, thanks for the thoughts with regards to the Philips S2.

Have picked them up today and they are really an enjoyable iem to have around.

 
Glad you like 'em!
 
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Hey I recently bought vsonic gr06 and though the sound nice (bass good mids good treble fine) I somehow find sound little congested I.e. iem not seem to sound openly/fully is it normal at start and will this improve after some burn in or they have this little narrow kinda sound? Otherwise they are fine

 
I think what you're hearing and not liking is the forward mids. The GR06 is the "worst" of the VSonic IEMs in this regard. You may get used to it (i.e. "brain burn-in") over time. 
 
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hello!
one of my weird questions again...hope some of you may relate :)
so...i like to my Sparks / Meelec A161P around the ear,
but what happens is that using this method the cables are always
being a little wrapped around my neck which i really dislike.
if i use a clip to attach the cable to my shirt it solves it,
but i also don't like that..
are all iem like this? it seems if the cable were longer and thicker it might solved it,
but i don't want to spend 100$ for the Shure SE215 just for that matter without
any real sound improvement.....

 
Running the cables down your back might work better. I do so when I'm doing housework or otherwise being active to prevent them getting caught on stuff.
 
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At $69.99 shipped, these A161P's are about 40% off from Amazon.  If they were value rated 8.5, before, just curious as to what would you rate these out at the sale price?
 
I picked up a set that I plan on using on motorcycle trips, since these are supposed to isolate well.  I am using a Westone UM2 now and I hope I will like the A161P's much better.  I always thought the UM2's sounded meh.  Not much clarity in the highs, and not great bass.  Just alot of muddy mids, IMHO
 
Thank you for your post.  This has got to be the most comprehensive review of any one type of product I have ever seen.  I appreciate it and have bookmarked it!


Probably the same. There's no getting around the mediocre cable so it would take a very deep discount for me to rate them a 9/10 or higher. Although I haven't heard the UM2, the A161 shouldn't have any issues with clarity. 
 
Jun 20, 2013 at 11:25 PM Post #10,703 of 16,931
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Hi sinquito, I did my search about it and have read the IF reviews. I sought for joker's thoughts in regards to the differences to the iems I currently own.

Perhaps you should read through all the post I've posted leading to this post before commenting.

Anyway, it's a long thread and you might have missed some post but please kindly hold your guns before you shoot aimlessly.

Sorry joker for side tracking and thanks again for your thoughts.

You know what, for some I reason I miss read your post and thought that you were asking for his thoughts about the philips s2, anyway, I'm sorry if I offended you, was a real mistake but I should take note to read well before posting something, it's just that I have read so many post here asking things that have been asked before, it's not cool. I apologise and promise to read well before posting some righteously crap. Must quit drugs...
 
Jun 21, 2013 at 12:29 AM Post #10,704 of 16,931
You know what, for some I reason I miss read your post and thought that you were asking for his thoughts about the philips s2, anyway, I'm sorry if I offended you, was a real mistake but I should take note to read well before posting something, it's just that I have read so many post here asking things that have been asked before, it's not cool. I apologise and promise to read well before posting some righteously crap. Must quit drugs...


Hi sinquito,

No worries man, just needed to clear the misunderstanding.

As I said, it's a long fast flowing thread. It does occurs to me that I could forget what was mentioned before and have to back track.

Let's move on.
 
Jun 21, 2013 at 11:51 AM Post #10,706 of 16,931
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Is there such a thing as a universal IEM with an Etymotic class isolation, but WITH a better soundstage?
I love my HF5 for isolation and accuracy, but hate it for not having a soundstage. (


Not that I've heard. 
 
Jun 21, 2013 at 12:02 PM Post #10,707 of 16,931
It really does sound like the K3003 is the way to go. Personally, I don't think the PFE 232 will cut it for you. It's similar enough the GR07, especially on the soundstage front, where it is still more like the GR07 than the K3003, that you may well be left wondering where the extra $300 went. 


I was afraid you were going to say that. Sorry about my wallet :blink:

Thanks for the feedback. Sounds like it may be time to save a bit more.
 
Jun 21, 2013 at 1:37 PM Post #10,709 of 16,931
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Hi sinquito,

No worries man, just needed to clear the misunderstanding.

As I said, it's a long fast flowing thread. It does occurs to me that I could forget what was mentioned before and have to back track.

Let's move on.

Thanks, you are a better head-fi'er than I am 
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Jun 21, 2013 at 9:14 PM Post #10,710 of 16,931
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I was afraid you were going to say that. Sorry about my wallet
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Thanks for the feedback. Sounds like it may be time to save a bit more.

 
Sorry 
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if the HF5 gives 35-42 db of isolation, how much can a Custom give?


Not a clue, but my Spiral Ear silicone custom isolates more than even my silicone-tipped Etymotic ER4S. I use it for flights. Can't hear the announcements even with no music playing. 
 

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