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CTM-200 vs W4 ?

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You've requested about a dozen comparisons in the past few weeks. I don't mind doing them but they do take time. If you're asking only out of curiosity, I recommend just reading the reviews. If you're actually looking to make a buying decision, it might be best for you to state what you're looking for. It's easier for me to say which fits your criteria better than to come up with a from-memory comparison of two products you might not even want in the first place.

Wow, how much time do you put into these reviews to start with joker?  About time you put the foot down on frivolous requests
 

Agree with |joker|, you should look through reviews if out of curiosity, but if you want a recommendation, please give details about what you're looking for.

3 weeks ago he was asking me about the PFE232 and W4...

Hope there will be joker's review for sony MH1C, here....with sound quality rated out of 10. 

OK
i'll rephrase my question.. which is now, officially, a problem of mine- both financially AND of taste...;
 
I have the Sennheiser IE80.
I find it too warm and veiled on the mid's.. especially when listening to classical music.
 
my "baseline" for comparison, is the Shure 940.
BUT, besides that; IF classical music wasn't an issue, I would sell the Shure's, in favor of the IE80.
I really like the portability, the comfort, the better isolation, and the easier-to-drive factor, an IEM offers.
 
 
I looked at the table, and saw the 232 above the W4, then read the "battle of 50...", there the W4 is above..  i cannot buy both, and then decide.
 
UPDATE (from today): I heard that W4 is somewhat less bassy then IE80, but still might be of a disappointment to me (for my issue at hand).
I am looking for more AIR, and probably less bass- more Neutral kind of HP. already using bass level 1 (lowest setting) on the IE80,
and it is still sometimes too bassy for my tastes.
 
Now, what remains are three (i might be missing something..):
PFE232 (been told they are less warm than W4)
ER-4s
and... -your advise comes here-
 
Then i looked at the table again, and noticed that the CTM-200 is lower cost than both (I CAN go to an audiologist if necessary) 
 
BTW i have an RE0 on its way.. just because i wanted to try those, and the resale value is something i can live with...
 
thanks for your help!
and sorry for asking so many questions... But I really have to know.. 
 
...help
/Eyal

Given your criteria I think you will be happy with the RE0.  Why not wait for them to arrive and listen to them before thinking of buying other stuff?

this is probably the right thing to do..
it's just that, from my experience with full size cans.. there is no such thing as a 59$ beating a 450$+ can..
 
BTW the 232's are selling for 420$ now at some coupon sites.
but if i understand that "monitor" / "analytic" is my type of sound.. then an upgrade would be to ER-4s
and then maybe the CTM-200, right?
 
 
EDIT: not going to buy the 232.. V / U is certainly NOT my type.

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Hope there will be joker's review for sony MH1C, here....with sound quality rated out of 10. 

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They certainly look intriguing, given the price.

joker, I'm wondering if there is an universal IEM that has slightly less bass than JVC FX700, but equal or better than FX700 in terms of sound quality in all the other regions. Well, except mids, since FX700 seems has slightly recessed mids.
Ignoring the price, some IEM that comes to my mind are Sony EX1000, AKG K3003 with maybe treble filter and Sennheiser IE 800.
 
I just want an idea so I can eliminate the iems that I probably won't like. Thanks

Hello joker, had a lot of fun reading through your reviews.
 
Would you, or anyone else with experience of the two IEMs, say that the PFE-232's are a significant upgrade to the Miles Davis Tributes? I currently have the Miles Davis, but I'm looking for something with a bit more clarity and detail. By going to the PFE-232's will I expect to lose much in the bass department? As I still want the impact for the type of music I listen to.
 
How do the two sound signatures compare?
 
 
Cheers

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Wow, how much time do you put into these reviews to start with joker?
 

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Probably too much 
 
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eyal1983 said:

this is probably the right thing to do..
it's just that, from my experience with full size cans.. there is no such thing as a 59$ beating a 450$+ can..
 
BTW the 232's are selling for 420$ now at some coupon sites.
but if i understand that "monitor" / "analytic" is my type of sound.. then an upgrade would be to ER-4s
and then maybe the CTM-200, right?
 
 
EDIT: not going to buy the 232.. V / U is certainly NOT my type.

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I agree, try the RE0 - another data point always helps. If you like the accuracy compared to the IE80, you'll know where to go from there. If you find yourself missing bass or otherwise bored with it, you'll know that you need something between the two.
 
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joker, I'm wondering if there is an universal IEM that has slightly less bass than JVC FX700, but equal or better than FX700 in terms of sound quality in all the other regions. Well, except mids, since FX700 seems has slightly recessed mids.
Ignoring the price, some IEM that comes to my mind are Sony EX1000, AKG K3003 with maybe treble filter and Sennheiser IE 800.
 
I just want an idea so I can eliminate the iems that I probably won't like. Thanks

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The K3003 has slightly less bass than the FX700 and slightly less recessed mids. The EX1000 has quite a bit less bass and even more midrange presence but you might not like it as much if you like the warmth and thickness of the FX700. I haven't heard the IE800. 
 
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Hello joker, had a lot of fun reading through your reviews.
 
Would you, or anyone else with experience of the two IEMs, say that the PFE-232's are a significant upgrade to the Miles Davis Tributes? I currently have the Miles Davis, but I'm looking for something with a bit more clarity and detail. By going to the PFE-232's will I expect to lose much in the bass department? As I still want the impact for the type of music I listen to.
 
How do the two sound signatures compare?

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They're an upgrade but also quite a bit different in sound. The PFE 232 still has enhanced bass but not as much as the Tributes. It's still quite impactful but you'll lose some of that power and rumble, as well as the warmth. You'll also lose the lush, prominent mids and the treble smoothness in favor of the better clarity and detail.

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They're an upgrade but also quite a bit different in sound. The PFE 232 still has enhanced bass but not as much as the Tributes. It's still quite impactful but you'll lose some of that power and rumble, as well as the warmth. You'll also lose the lush, prominent mids and the treble smoothness in favor of the better clarity and detail.

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You're going to start having to charge for advice. 
 
When I got the Tributes, I was lead to believe that the bass was more impactful than on the Sennheiser HD25-1 II, but for me this was not the case at all. The HD25's that I had seemed to hit harder, while the Tributes had more sub bass rumble. I'm actually looking for the hard hitting, quick whack of bass/ driver slam, but I guess it would be too much to ask for in IEM's and their small drivers? Do the PFE-232's offer this type of slam at all, or is it only achievable with full size cans?

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The K3003 has slightly less bass than the FX700 and slightly less recessed mids. The EX1000 has quite a bit less bass and even more midrange presence but you might not like it as much if you like the warmth and thickness of the FX700. I haven't heard the IE800. 
 
Does K3003 has the same treble presence as FX700? And am i missing any IEMs that I should consider?

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I had problems laying down with the SE215 and SE535 because of the bulky cable connectors but it's probably just my ears. Other than that they are pretty good all-rounders. 

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I've been using the Shure SE215s for a little over a week now.  You were absolutely correct on the rather bulky feel.  I like the sound signature okay but being my first IEMs, I'm wondering if I should try some other types.  I'm thinking about something with at least dual BA drivers to get a balanced sound.  Any suggestions for something under $200?
 
JJ

i'm wondering which has better sound? creative in-ear 3, shure 215 or ue 700
i noe that they have different sound signature but which is better
i like forward mids and highs, and not too much of bass
all 3 are in the same price range in singapore so ignore the price