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Originally Posted by DecentLevi View Post
 

Thanks much guys, I'm interested in the Ortofon EQ 5, seems to tick all my boxes. Another popular in-ear man on HeadFi also seems to highly recommend the Atomic Floyd Darts, based on my sound preferences. Any of you tried their Super Darts Titanium, Super Darts or Mini Darts?

 

He also recommends Shure SE425. Does anyone have any experience with these? But I wonder about the ease of quickly putting in / taking out

 

In my experience you generally don't want a hybrid earphone like the Dart if you're looking for balanced/neutral sound. Of the 20-30 hybrid earphones I've tried I don't think any have fit that description.  

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They should know that the XX IEMs are just not bassy enough for me :rolleyes:

 

 

 

Yes, I'm happy with the Elation so far. Seems to be smoother than my old FX101/FR301 (harshness is my biggest issue with those). 

 

+1 on that being an IE7 clone. Not a bad thing, those were always comfy for me, assuming Kanen got the nozzle angle right.


Okay, two related things on those two earphones. I got the Kanen and they are actually a bit better than the Elation esp. in the clarity dept. Great little value even though the IE7 housing is not my easiest to fit since it is shallow and the memory wire adds to the learning curve at the beginning. All is good with a little practice and the right tips(TF10 grays). Big, airy, pretty quick and a bit of a V but not that much. They do present like the IE7 does due to the housing as far as stage height, depth, and width. I've bought the VSD2S/AN16 combo and the e80 for $52 but the Kanen are the best value phones of late for me. They did show up with only the generic bi-flanges on them and no S/M/L singles.

 

Now, the Elation being the walking phone in my sports arsenal were already beaten by the Philips SHQ5200(think waterproof SHP5401 for sports) in the SQ dept. Something had to be done :)

 

I peeled of the front screens. They are peel and stick so I put them on some wax paper. Now they do the things they say on the box such as quick and solid bass(jabs tighter but harder). A bit bigger and more open since they aren't blanketed over and they are brighter but still not peaky like JVC of old. I look in and see that the driver is metal capped(a center dome and 2mm holes on the perimeter) so their signature comes from that and not the filter screens which just seem to be there to turn them into an "XX". Since they are  still encased I doubt I'll put replacement screens on and just leave them. Still bassy but not basshead.

 

Really jumped them up a level since they are freer, quicker, clearer which shows their detail and what they highlight in their signature even more so now. I recommend the mod for them to be both better and an all-rounder.

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Okay, two related things on those two earphones. I got the Kanen and they are actually a bit better than the Elation esp. in the clarity dept. Great little value even though the IE7 housing is not my easiest to fit since it is shallow and the memory wire adds to the learning curve at the beginning. All is good with a little practice and the right tips(TF10 grays). Big, airy, pretty quick and a bit of a V but not that much. They do present like the IE7 does due to the housing as far as stage height, depth, and width. I've bought the VSD2S/AN16 combo and the e80 for $52 but the Kanen are the best value phones of late for me. They did show up with only the generic bi-flanges on them and no S/M/L singles.

 

Now, the Elation being the walking phone in my sports arsenal were already beaten by the Philips SHQ5200(think waterproof SHP5401 for sports) in the SQ dept. Something had to be done :)

 

I peeled of the front screens. They are peel and stick so I put them on some wax paper. Now they do the things they say on the box such as quick and solid bass(jabs tighter but harder). A bit bigger and more open since they aren't blanketed over and they are brighter but still not peaky like JVC of old. I look in and see that the driver is metal capped(a center dome and 2mm holes on the perimeter) so their signature comes from that and not the filter screens which just seem to be there to turn them into an "XX". Since they are  still encased I doubt I'll put replacement screens on and just leave them. Still bassy but not basshead.

 

Really jumped them up a level since they are freer, quicker, clearer which shows their detail and what they highlight in their signature even more so now. I recommend the mod for them to be both better and an all-rounder.

Sorry dude,

 

i'm interested into buy Kanen as a running rough iem, and i love bass (actually i use a Meelec M6, but they do not convices me); you will reccomed these to me?

 

Thanks a lot

 

Edit: In addition ANYONE can reccomend me a good sport IEM (possibly sweatproof or at least very robust) with Mic with a Bassy/Warm/V-L Shaped Signature? 

THANKS more and more :P 


Edited by wolf230 - 7/31/15 at 2:09am
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Sorry dude,

i'm interested into buy Kanen as a running rough iem, and i love bass (actually i use a Meelec M6, but they do not convices me); you will reccomed these to me?

Thanks a lot

Edit: In addition ANYONE can reccomend me a good sport IEM (possibly sweatproof or at least very robust) with Mic with a Bassy/Warm/V-L Shaped Signature? 
THANKS more and more :P 

You sir should check out the Sony AS800AP. A great iem in its own right, that also happens to be sport focused. Waterproof, durable, comfortable, have a mic, lots of bass (without sacrificing everything else). Love the things. smily_headphones1.gif They come highly recommended from me, especially since they meet all of your criteria.
post #16115 of 16124
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You sir should check out the Sony AS800AP. A great iem in its own right, that also happens to be sport focused. Waterproof, durable, comfortable, have a mic, lots of bass (without sacrificing everything else). Love the things. smily_headphones1.gif They come highly recommended from me, especially since they meet all of your criteria.

Thanks Scrambler,

 

I've never heard about these Sony, but they perfect fit my needs. Thanks a lot!

post #16116 of 16124
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Originally Posted by wolf230 View Post

Sorry dude,

i'm interested into buy Kanen as a running rough iem, and i love bass (actually i use a Meelec M6, but they do not convices me); you will reccomed these to me?

Thanks a lot

Edit: In addition ANYONE can reccomend me a good sport IEM (possibly sweatproof or at least very robust) with Mic with a Bassy/Warm/V-L Shaped Signature? 
THANKS more and more :P 

Westone Adventure Series Beta $50 on eBay seller: Beachcamera

Along with your requirements, it also has detachable cable, and can be worn cable down or up around ears.
I don't have this personally but could be another to consider.
post #16117 of 16124
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Originally Posted by wolf230 View Post
 

Sorry dude,

 

i'm interested into buy Kanen as a running rough iem, and i love bass (actually i use a Meelec M6, but they do not convices me); you will reccomed these to me?

 

Thanks a lot

 

Edit: In addition ANYONE can reccomend me a good sport IEM (possibly sweatproof or at least very robust) with Mic with a Bassy/Warm/V-L Shaped Signature? 

THANKS more and more :P 

 

AS800AP, Beta, and JVC ETR40,are all good and worthy purchases. Kanen is $4.80 shipped from tinydeal so probably don't need to say any more than that. Though Joker loaned me his M6 ages ago and the Kanen are certainly better sounding than that gen M6 though probably not the same as newer ones I believe were changed somewhat.

 

Some good deals if you don't mind buying used(but you are here so probably not)

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/used/1080928/?gclid=CPvgzeCZhscCFZWRHwodcKMETQ


Edited by jant71 - 7/31/15 at 4:00pm
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Originally Posted by esteebin View Post


Westone Adventure Series Beta $50 on eBay seller: Beachcamera

Along with your requirements, it also has detachable cable, and can be worn cable down or up around ears.
I don't have this personally but could be another to consider.

 

The Alpha was the one I thought of. If the Beta sounds similar, should be a great fit as well. 

post #16119 of 16124

The word's out, but in case you didn't didn't hear there's a front-page review of the Aurisonics Rockets:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/products/aurisonics-rockets-solo-precision-micro-dynamic-noise-isolating-in-ear-headphones/reviews/13628

post #16120 of 16124
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Originally Posted by DecentLevi View Post

Hello guys, I'm posting here in hopes to get a suggestion for an IEM. After 500+ postings on head-fi, this is surprisingly my first post about IEMs. So maybe somebody can help me to 'come out of the closet' with IEMs... or even if the thread owner @ljokerl
 would chime in, I would be super tickled!

Last year I had studied the first half of this thread for sub $60 IEMs, and bought both the Soundmagic E30 and Maximo iMetal iM-590. Of these, I found the E30 to be too dark / muddy, and I like the iMetal, but one of the channels died and it sounded a tad too claustrophobic.

So here is what I'm looking for: An IEM under $250-ish, bullet or tube shape, that has fairly neutral FR, good clarity and punch. By bullet / tube shape, I like these as opposed to the full IEM 'hearing aid' type so it's much faster to put in / take out. And more on the sound signature I'm looking for: I like a decent amount of clarity / instrument separation / detail (yet not super analytical), and I like the frequency response to be fairly flat but maybe slightly V-shaped is OK - natural bass response but nothing even remotely resembling 'bass heavy' of 'basshead'; - closer to neutral.

For reference with full size 'cans, I love the sound of the Senn. HD 650 and Stax SR-009, I like the DT 880, but am not into the Audeze LCD2 or Ether headphones sound which seem too 'dark' for me.
Thanks in advance!

Hopefully I'm not to late to the party. I'll vouch for the Titans. Listening to Asbloodrunsblack and some Meshuggah with these and the guitar chugs and cymbals just simply shine. I remember getting that "tight band"sound.

Edit: there's a Paulus mod available that lowers leakage and tunes the bass using medical tape to block 1-3 portholes.
Edited by 1TrickPony - 8/1/15 at 5:16am
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Thread Starter 

Added the Fidue A31s, an IEM that places comfort above all else.

 

As always, the most up-to-date IEM ranking can be found here

 

 

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(3B43) Fidue A31s


Reviewed May 2015

Brief: Ultra-comfortable entry-level headset from Fidue

MSRP: approx. $40 (manufacturer’s page)
Current Price: $30 from amazon.com; $30 from ebay.com; Canada: $39 from CTC Audio
Specs: Driver: Dynamic | Imp: 19Ω | Sens: 101 dB | Freq: 18-20k Hz | Cable: 3.9′ I-plug w/mic & 1-button remote
Nozzle Size: 5.5mm | Preferred tips: Shure Olives; Stock double-flanges; Comply T-100
Wear Style: Straight down or over-the-ear

Accessories (4/5) – Single-flange (3 sizes) and double-flange silicone tips, shirt clip, over-the-ear cable guides (1 pair), and excellent slim plastic carrying case
Build Quality (3.5/5) – The Fidue A31s features compact plastic housings and cabling identical to that of the higher-end A63 model – internally braided and covered in a smooth, glossy sheath. It’s a little stiff and lacks a cable cinch but in my experience these cables tend to be quite durable. Strain relief on the I-shaped 3.5mm plug is average, and there is no external relief on the housings. There are no external L/R markings, either, but the mic makes the right side of the earphones easy to identify
Isolation (3.5/5) – With the stock bi-flange tips or Shure Olives the isolation is very good – the tiny A31s fits in the ear canal very snugly
Microphonics (4/5) – Bothersome when worn cable-down; low when worn cable-up
Comfort (5/5) – It is very difficult to convey just how tiny the A31s is – its disc-shaped housings are barely large enough for a small dynamic driver, making it one of the smallest earphones in my collection. I found that the included eartips run a size small as well – normally I use mediums, but in this case only the largest tips sealed. The design of the stock single-flange tips is somewhat similar to the Westone STAR tips, which is good, but the deep-sealing bi-flange tips may take some getting used to for those not accustomed to IEMs. Aftermarket Shure “Olive” memory foam tips also fit on the A31s’ nozzles and make for one of the most comfortable listening experiences among all IEMs.

Sound (7/10) – The Fidue A31s is a warm and smooth earphone – something along the lines of a (less bassy) Beats by Dre Tour 2.0. Its sound has little in common with Fidue’s higher-end A63 and A71 models, opting instead for heavier lows, a less forward midrange, and even less prominent treble.

The bass is impactful and extended, but suffers from mild bloat, with room for improvement in both texture and control. The bass of the A31s – especially the subbass – is more powerful than that of the Soundmagic E10, but quality is about on-par due to the more pronounced mid-bass hump of the E10.

Still, the A31 is not quite a basshead IEM – its low end is not as deep and powerful as that of the UBSOUND Fighter or the ridiculously bassy JVC HA-FR301. It is warmer than both, however, due to its less prominent treble.

The midrange of the A31s is not at all forward, as the mids of the higher-end A63 and A71 models tend do be. The rolled-off treble and large bass quantity result in some veiling, but also give the sound a very warm and rich tonal character. Neutral-sounding earphones near this price range invariably sound thinner and colder. Even the Astrotec AM-90 – a smooth earphone by balanced armature standards – sounds harsh and bright in comparison to the A31s.

In its price range, the clarity of the A31s is about mid-pack, maybe a touch below average, lagging slightly behind the Soundmagic E10 and the more mid-forward Brainwavz M1. Likewise, despite having more powerful bass, the pricier UBSOUND Fighter is a little clearer too, due in large part to being less rolled-off up top than the A31.

The treble of the A31 is very smooth and laid-back, but somewhat deficient in presence and extension for my taste. It lacks the brighter, crisper character of earphones such as the E10 and even the Brainwavz M1, the latter of which is not a bright-sounding earphone by any stretch. Treble-boosted earphones such JVC’s HA-FR301 Xtreme Xplosives are enormously harsher, bordering on unpleasant when used back-to-back with the more rolled-off A31.

The presentation is adequate, but hindered somewhat in width and dynamics by the rolled-off treble, tending to sound quite soft and lacking the air and openness of many higher-end sets. Soundstage width also lags behind sets with more treble presence, such as the E10 and UBSOUND Fighter.

Select Comparisons

Nuforce NE-600X ($15)

Nuforce’s entry-level NE-600X is a budget-minded bassheads’ delight. The Fidue A31s has less bass than the NE-600X, but bass quality is similar – both earphones sound a bit boomy. The A31s is tonally warmer and its sounds much smoother overall, whereas the NE-600X has greater treble presence and is more v-shaped in response. The extra treble energy of the Nuforce makes it sound clearer, but the A31s is smoother and can appear more natural as a result.

Tekfusion Twinwoofers ($40)

While definitely bass-heavy, the A31s has nowhere near the same amount of depth and impact as the appropriately-named Twinwoofers. The bass of the Twinwoofers is a touch more boomy, but still better than could be expected considering its sizable quantity boost. Despite the more emphasized bass, the midrange of the Twinwoofers is more forward and a little clearer. The A31s is muddier, but its treble is smoother. Tonally, the A31s may actually be more natural than the Twinwoofers, but the clarity gap is not easy to look past.

Fidue A63 ($60)

Fidue’s $60 A63 model is one of my recommended sets for a warmer sound in its price range. It’s an interesting earphone, providing a slight bass boost but still keeping its mids center-stage. The A31s is significantly bassier, boasting greater bass depth and impact, but less control. The tone of the A31s is even warmer than that of the A63, but its midrange is overshadowed somewhat by the low end. The A63 has significantly more midrange presence, resulting in more upfront vocals and instruments. It sounds clearer overall and its treble presence and extension are better, too. The A63 is still not a neutral earphone by any means, but compared to the warm and bassy A31s, it is pretty balanced.

Value (8/10) – Jumping into the competitive mid- and high-end in-ear earphone markets with their first few releases, the folks at Fidue have now taken a step back with the more consumer- (and wallet-) friendly A31s. The A31s offers a well-executed consumer sound signature – bassy, warm, smooth, and very non-fatiguing, albeit lacking somewhat in clarity and treble energy. Its largest asset is its small size, which, with the right eartips, makes it one of the most comfortable IEMs available at any price. Add to that the headset functionality, decent noise isolation, and the excellent easily-pocketable carrying case (one of my favorite cases, period), and the sum value is very good. 

Pros: Good noise isolation; impossibly tiny design is extremely comfortable, especially with foam eartips; warm, bassy, non-fatiguing sound
Cons: Deep-insertion tips may take some getting used to; rolled-off treble results in somewhat muddy audio

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Your reviews are done in an outstanding way, @ljokerl - also I have a question for you or others.

 

OK I took your advice and ordered the e-Q5 earphones - shipped all the way from Japan for me, but I'm sad to say these just aren't my sound. I posted my impressions here. I think I may have described my sound preferences wrong. By balanced / neutral sound I don't mean all the way to the extreme flatness of balanced armature's or like the Fischer FA-003 cans, but maybe about 1/2 way closer towards the v-sahped sound of, say... Momentums.

 

I found the e-Q5 sounded muddy / non detailed / non punchy, rolled off highs & lows and basically inverted soundstage.

 

I am basically looking for the opposite sound: detailed, impactful, good bass & treble extension and somewhat analytical would be great.

 

I'm leaning towards the suggestion for a T-PEOS Altone 200, or Shure SE 425. Do you think that would suit me well or are there any other suggestions? I need it around $300 but don't necessarily need straight-housing, just as long as it's really easy to insert / remove. THANKS! 

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Originally Posted by DecentLevi View Post
 

Your reviews are done in an outstanding way, @ljokerl - also I have a question for you or others.

 

OK I took your advice and ordered the e-Q5 earphones - shipped all the way from Japan for me, but I'm sad to say these just aren't my sound. I posted my impressions here. I think I may have described my sound preferences wrong. By balanced / neutral sound I don't mean all the way to the extreme flatness of balanced armature's or like the Fischer FA-003 cans, but maybe about 1/2 way closer towards the v-sahped sound of, say... Momentums.

 

I found the e-Q5 sounded muddy / non detailed / non punchy, rolled off highs & lows and basically inverted soundstage.

 

I am basically looking for the opposite sound: detailed, impactful, good bass & treble extension and somewhat analytical would be great.

 

I'm leaning towards the suggestion for a T-PEOS Altone 200, or Shure SE 425. Do you think that would suit me well or are there any other suggestions? I need it around $300 but don't necessarily need straight-housing, just as long as it's really easy to insert / remove. THANKS! 


 I told you to go for DN-2k, but you were keen on EQ5. hmmh. Go for Altone maybe. You will like that if you are okay with a V shaped sound. I dont know why you were sold the idea of EQ5, cuz Titan-1 would have done better than it for you.

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Why not go for the DN-2000J for $50 more, cuz as far as i know, its the best you will ever get for under $500.

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