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 I would suggest CKR9.

I love the concept! A shame the cables aren't detachable...

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Originally Posted by Mike43110 View Post
 

My GR07 mk2s are on their last legs (the cable is coming out of the IEMs 0_o) and I was thinking of getting an upgrade with replaceable cables.

 

I read your FLC8 review and thought it was very interesting!

 

Seeing as how it was your review of the GR07 that brought me to having to get it (my wallet hates you and my ears love you :) ) I thought I may as well bug this thread for advice in if the FLC8 would suit somebody coming from the GR07 (my headphones are Sennheiser Momentum v1s <3 if that helps understand what I like - trying to help random people with tiny bits of info to go in is the easiest thing in the world :P)

 

The A:B comparison I included in that review for the GR07 Classic still holds for the older GR07: http://theheadphonelist.com/headphone_review/flc-technology-flc8/ - it'll give you a more v-shaped sound with more powerful bass and slightly brighter treble than the GR07. I consider it an upgrade, but it kind of moves in the opposite direction from the GR07 than the warmer and smoother Momentum.

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The A:B comparison I included in that review for the GR07 Classic still holds for the older GR07: http://theheadphonelist.com/headphone_review/flc-technology-flc8/ - it'll give you a more v-shaped sound with more powerful bass and slightly brighter treble than the GR07. I consider it an upgrade, but it kind of moves in the opposite direction from the GR07 than the warmer and smoother Momentum.

 

Thanks! The GR07 series had quite a bit of variability even between the same model! I remember the mk2 I RMA'd and the mk2 I got back sounded different. I did figure out why though. There was glue or something in the vents which changed the presentation. I spent a lot of time fiddling with the vents trying to find the spot where I was the happiest. Which is why the FLC8 intrigued me​! I want to try and make my own ports for the thing and see if shape could make an interesting influence (i.e. find the right shape to).

 

Thanks for the info though. It does sound like the direction I wanted to move in - after reading the comparison on your website (which is an amazing resource!). I actually like a diverse set of sounds. My HD555s are still loved and used regularly - which have a far FAR lower bass quantity than the Momentums.

 

Just have to say - LOVE the website. Far easier to use than the old thread which I used to read religiously.

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Thanks! The GR07 series had quite a bit of variability even between the same model! I remember the mk2 I RMA'd and the mk2 I got back sounded different. I did figure out why though. There was glue or something in the vents which changed the presentation. I spent a lot of time fiddling with the vents trying to find the spot where I was the happiest. Which is why the FLC8 intrigued me​! I want to try and make my own ports for the thing and see if shape could make an interesting influence (i.e. find the right shape to).

 

Thanks for the info though. It does sound like the direction I wanted to move in - after reading the comparison on your website (which is an amazing resource!). I actually like a diverse set of sounds. My HD555s are still loved and used regularly - which have a far FAR lower bass quantity than the Momentums.

 

Just have to say - LOVE the website. Far easier to use than the old thread which I used to read religiously.

 

That's true, and the Classic definitely sounds a bit different from the old GR07, but when you compare it to something fairly different like the FLC8, the gap between different GR07s becomes pretty much negligible. I don't think you could A:B two different GR07 with the FLC8 and come to significantly different conclusions.

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That's true, and the Classic definitely sounds a bit different from the old GR07, but when you compare it to something fairly different like the FLC8, the gap between different GR07s becomes pretty much negligible. I don't think you could A:B two different GR07 with the FLC8 and come to significantly different conclusions.


Well - my FLC8's arrived today!

What a pleasant surprise! I think I saw somewhere the gold filter was improved. Mine came with grey-grey-gold installed. I fell in love with them already! I started A-B'ing them with my Momentum and found that red-grey-gold worked as an interesting alternative to the Momentum. The boosted mids don't sound unnatural at all and it feels "musical"  to my ears.​

 

I have too much work to do to do a proper analysis but I am really happy with them! I just wish I had a tip between the smallest and second smallest but interestingly I get similar sound with some boosted bass out of the GR07's flanged tip (An utter pain to get on but worth it while still being slightly large). Tips and insertion depth played a large role in the sound I found. YMMV but personally I am happy as it can keep up with the Momentums which is all I really wanted.

 

Though now I need an open-dynamic to replace my HD555's :D My poor wallet must understand that I can't accept that the Momentum with a far darker sound resolves finer details better (Hifiman 400s here I come - why did I ever come to headfi...)

 

Just wanted to say thanks! Now off to tinker again and find another setup with an interesting sound signature on the FLC8s... (3 fairly different but good ones so far!)

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Well - my FLC8's arrived today!

What a pleasant surprise! I think I saw somewhere the gold filter was improved. Mine came with grey-grey-gold installed. I fell in love with them already! I started A-B'ing them with my Momentum and found that red-grey-gold worked as an interesting alternative to the Momentum. The boosted mids don't sound unnatural at all and it feels "musical"  to my ears.​

 

I have too much work to do to do a proper analysis but I am really happy with them! I just wish I had a tip between the smallest and second smallest but interestingly I get similar sound with some boosted bass out of the GR07's flanged tip (An utter pain to get on but worth it while still being slightly large). Tips and insertion depth played a large role in the sound I found. YMMV but personally I am happy as it can keep up with the Momentums which is all I really wanted.

 

Though now I need an open-dynamic to replace my HD555's :D My poor wallet must understand that I can't accept that the Momentum with a far darker sound resolves finer details better (Hifiman 400s here I come - why did I ever come to headfi...)

 

Just wanted to say thanks! Now off to tinker again and find another setup with an interesting sound signature on the FLC8s... (3 fairly different but good ones so far!)

 

Sounds like you did get a newer version because mine came with the gray-gray-dark gray configuration out of the box. Glad you're liking them so far! It really does take a while to properly "discover" and explore this IEM but it should be an enjoyable process. 

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Hello there!

What would you recommend as the best for classical and vocal unamped? Etys still king?

Thanks!
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Hello there!

What would you recommend as the best for classical and vocal unamped? Etys still king?

Thanks!


 I think so.

post #16044 of 16045
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Originally Posted by Ymer View Post

Hello there!

What would you recommend as the best for classical and vocal unamped? Etys still king?

Thanks!

It really depends. Let your own ears be the judge (that is, if you have the chance to audition any of the earphones). While the Etys are well-known for their detailed presentation, some might find them lacking warmth or the natural timbre for classical music. It's a matter of taste. :) 

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Hello there!

What would you recommend as the best for classical and vocal unamped? Etys still king?

Thanks!

 

I agree with ClassicalViola - it really depends on the type of sound you want our of your earphones. An Ety like the HF5 or ER4PT will give you an extremely clear and detailed sound, which generally is a good thing for classical music and for vocals, but I have no doubt that others prefer something else for the same genres - more bass, more mids, more warmth - whatever. Ultimately it depends on the individual listener.

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