Multi-IEM Review - 352 IEMs compared (Pump Audio Earphones added 04/03/16 p. 1106)
May 1, 2013 at 7:18 PM Post #10,156 of 16,931
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Like I said, the MG7 is better but perhaps not $100 better. There's not much in the $150-250 price range that I'm aware of to better serve your needs so I don't think you need to spend the extra $$ (though admittedly there's lots I haven't heard).

Alrighty then what would you recommend for me then in a higher tier bracket i.e say $350.00 that would sound much better than Klipsch S4 or even the Atrio MG7's at bass, or about the same. i like the S4 bass but i think the MG7 without a doubt will blow it away, but with vocals i think like you said something in a higher money bracket is all.
 
May 1, 2013 at 9:47 PM Post #10,158 of 16,931
What a great thread!

I recently broke/lost a pair of Triple.Fi 10's and Grados 325i's. I loved both of these for their strengths.

Would I be happy with some Westone W4's?
 
May 1, 2013 at 10:37 PM Post #10,159 of 16,931
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That sounds like a W3

 
Agreed, or maybe the JVC FX700 if I isolation is not important, though I'm still not sure spending $350 is necessary to upgrade from the S4 with good bass and better vocals. The EPH-100 does that for $150.
 
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What a great thread!

I recently broke/lost a pair of Triple.Fi 10's and Grados 325i's. I loved both of these for their strengths.

Would I be happy with some Westone W4's?


If you can also love them for their strengths... 
 
 
The W4 is darker than both of your sets and generally a little more mid-centric, especially next to the v-shaped TF10s. If you're looking for something between the TF10 and Grado signature I think the UE900 might be a better option.
 
May 2, 2013 at 12:01 AM Post #10,160 of 16,931
vshaped...perfect description of the tf10 and exactly what I do not want. So darker ~ more low end?

I listen to mostly pop, worship, trance, classical, r&b, and rock.

I did love my grados tho. Ill look into the ue900, thx!
 
May 2, 2013 at 12:10 AM Post #10,161 of 16,931
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Agreed, or maybe the JVC FX700 if I isolation is not important, though I'm still not sure spending $350 is necessary to upgrade from the S4 with good bass and better vocals. The EPH-100 does that for $150.

 
Not that it matters to your point, but fwiw the FX700 has been going for around $270 shipped from Japan for a little while now. I'd say thats a win win.
 
May 2, 2013 at 12:24 AM Post #10,162 of 16,931
Added the Audio-Technica CKM500
 
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(2C56) Audio-Technica ATH-CKM500


Added May 2013

Details: mid-level Audio-Technica model with a form factor similar to the CKM99
Current Price: $60 from accessoryjack.com (MSRP: $79.99); $90 for CKM500i with microphone
Specs: Driver: Dynamic | Imp: 16Ω | Sens: 105 dB | Freq: 5-25k Hz | Cable: 2' I-plug + 2’ L-plug extension
Nozzle Size: 5.5mm | Preferred tips: standard single-flanges, short bi-flanges
Wear Style: Straight down

Accessories (3/5) - Single-flange silicone tips (4 sizes), carrying pouch, and 2’ extension cable
Build Quality (4/5) – Plastic housings combine with sturdy cables and flexible strain reliefs to provide very solid construction. The stereo version boats a modular cable while the CKM500i headset has a 1-piece cord
Isolation (3/5) – Average due to shallow-fit design
Microphonics (3.5/5) – Cable noise can be bothersome and is difficult to eliminate as these must be worn cable-down and lack a cable cinch
Comfort (4/5) – The housings are not small, but are lightweight and ergonomically designed. Like the pricier CKM99, the CKM500 uses a half in-ear design with no sharp edges to provide a comfortable and secure fit.

Sound (8/10) – Like the far more expensive CKM99 I reviewed a while back, the CKM500 is a slightly v-shaped earphone with powerful bass and a wide presentation. The most noticeable quality is the strong mid-bass response – there is more mid-bass impact than, for example, with the VSonic GR02 Bass Edition or the rather bass-heavy HiSound Wooduo2. Deep bass is present as well but less prominent in comparison, resulting in sets like the Sony MH1C and Wooduo 2 appearing to have cleaner, more prominent sub-bass. The strong mid-bass response does take away from the overall finesse of the earphone but will undoubtedly find its fans.

Though the sound of the CKM500 is heavy on the bass, apparent midrange recession is mild and confined to the lower midrange, with the upper mids coming across strong and clear in typical Audio-Technica fashion. The v-shape is noticeable mostly because of the intrusive, somewhat bloated mid-bass. Note thickness is good, which is not the case with the mids of certain other v-shaped earphones, and the clarity is surprisingly great considering the bass quantity of the earphones. The CKM500 is not as clear as the thinner-sounding, more balanced VSonic VC02 but easily beats the more veiled-sounding Brianwavz M5 and most other bass-heavy dynamics in its price range.

The top end is where Audio-Technica earphones can sometimes be overly energetic but the CKM500 does pretty well. There is a good amount of treble energy and some very mild grain but nothing too harsh at reasonable volumes. The treble is not too sparkly and extension is good. The VSonic GR02 Bass Edition, while a little more crisp and clean at the top, is also more sibilant. Soundstage width is also good, as is the case with the pricier CKM99, but the midbass bloat hurts the overall presentation, causing some congestion. Despite the good width and overall sense of space, there’s not a ton of depth to the sound, though the CKM500 still performs well enough to draw comparisons with pricier sets.

Value (9/10) – The ATH-CKM500 is yet another solid offering from one of Japan’s best-known headphone manufacturers. The earphone impresses with its strong bass, good midrange clarity, and spacious presentation, all wrapped up in a comfortable angled-nozzle housing with a strong cable and good strain reliefs. The CKM500 strikes me as the perfect upgrade to the newly-popular TDK MT-300 and an alternative to other mid-level heavy-hitters such as the VSonic GR06 and Shure SE215.

Pros: Good overall sound quality with strong bass; comfortable and lightweight
Cons: Bass bloated at times; modular cable in 2’+2’ configuration may be an issue for some


Big thanks to Anaxilus for the CKM500 loan!

 
 
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vshaped...perfect description of the tf10 and exactly what I do not want. So darker ~ more low end?

I listen to mostly pop, worship, trance, classical, r&b, and rock.

I did love my grados tho. Ill look into the ue900, thx!

 
Typically less treble more so than more bass. The UE900 is pretty well-balanced with linear and extended bass. If you like a little more excitement something like the Sony EX1000 (brighter) or JVC FX700 (bassier) would do that for you.
 
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Not that it matters to your point, but fwiw the FX700 has been going for around $270 shipped from Japan for a little while now. I'd say thats a win win.

 
Indeed
 
May 2, 2013 at 2:14 AM Post #10,164 of 16,931
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[size=medium] Still undecided on what to get between GR06 and VC02. Which one of these is closer to GR07?[/size]



Probably the GR06
 
May 2, 2013 at 3:59 AM Post #10,165 of 16,931
Vsonic VC02. 
 
You were right Joker: "It utilizes a conventional 2-pin socket, though it detaches a little more easily than I’d have liked
 
Yesterday lost both drivers... 
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Ok, there was few beers in me ... and it was a good party... 
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Almost new IEM cable, somebody?
 
May 2, 2013 at 4:07 AM Post #10,166 of 16,931
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Probably the GR06

Thank you! I'll be getting gr06 then :D
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Vsonic VC02. 
 
You were right Joker: "It utilizes a conventional 2-pin socket, though it detaches a little more easily than I’d have liked
 
Yesterday lost both drivers... 
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Ok, there was few beers in me ... and it was a good party... 
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Almost new IEM cable, somebody?

Thanks that help me decide on what to get 
 
May 2, 2013 at 10:58 AM Post #10,169 of 16,931
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However the VC02 is a great IEM (ordered the another pair , before few minutes) ! 
If you do not intend to replace the cable, one little drop of super glue will help.

That's what I did. And since replacement/after-market cables probably cost more than the IEM itself, it made more sense. I don't worry about losing drivers anymore. 
 

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