ljokerl said:

  I still think the DN1k is a good upgrade even though it's brighter. The MA750 is darker like the 3580 but differs in other ways. For sound signature alone the closest would probably be the RBH EP1 (even though it has somewhat more forward mids) but it's not enough of an upgrade to justify its price tag compared to the Philips. 
 
Yes, I still need to review the Philips at some point...

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Please do JOKER ALL MIGHTY!!!!!! XD
 
They are damn good...... I think i am buying a couple more pairs just in case.....

ozkan said:

   
Sure, we have. 

 
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/705687/review-of-audio-technica-ath-im01-ath-im02-ath-im03-ath-im04-ath-im50-ath-im70

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Read it. Excellent post.Only thing is...have bought all my iems after reading Jokers reviews. His reviews are very consequent and I trust them to fit my musical taste.
 
For example he mention the IM50 as borderline bass heavy, while in other reviews its not a real bassheavy iem. So bit contradictory.

tan1415 said:

  Read it. Excellent post.Only thing is...have bought all my iems after reading Jokers reviews. His reviews are very consequent and I trust them to fit my musical taste.
 
For example he mention the IM50 as borderline bass heavy, while in other reviews its not a real bassheavy iem. So bit contradictory.

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Joker eraly on useds ety er4s and HF5 as reference, and considers that bass a neutral (as to my understanding). The HF5 is one of the IEMs I have that have the least bass, so it's all about figuring out where you are on the scale compared to his references. Other reviewers are good as well, but the bass level set to "referrence" is one of the consistent differences.

tan1415 said:

 
For example he mention the IM50 as borderline bass heavy, while in other reviews its not a real bassheavy iem. So bit contradictory.

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Yes, IM50 is not in the bass heavy category but it is not bass light either. It should be more than enough for non bass-heads. If you are looking for some serious bass head IEMs like IE8 or at least Philips 3580 then these are definitely not for you. 

eccom said:

 
Joker eraly on useds ety er4s and HF5 as reference, and considers that bass a neutral (as to my understanding). The HF5 is one of the IEMs I have that have the least bass, so it's all about figuring out where you are on the scale compared to his references. Other reviewers are good as well, but the bass level set to "referrence" is one of the consistent differences.

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But with Joker, he has written so many reviews and can compare to just about anything you've heard that you can get a good idea from what Joker writes about the sound signature of any other IEM. He also does a pretty good job of relating the price to the sound quality, and doesn't fall victim to "FOTM syndrome". That Audio-Technica review is nice and thorough, but after reading it I still have no idea what any of those sound like, and I had no idea if he was describing $50 IEMs or $800 IEMs.

rush-n-crush said:

Can only find those dunus on ebay not sure how i feel about that. What about the jvc ha fxt90? Only thing turning me away from the gro7 is vsonic saying the vsd1 is 80 percent of the gro7. For gaming purposes i need an iem with big Soundstage and 3d imaging. So many choices

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You can also get the DN-1000 from lendmeurears – they ship worldwide as far as I know.
 
The VSD1 doesn’t lag far behind the GR07 in performance. It also doesn’t lag far behind the FXT90. This is known as diminishing returns – you’ll always be paying more for that last bit of performance. Audio is not known for large incremental games per dollar spent, except at the low end or if your starting point is not very good (which is clearly not the case with the VSD1).
 

tan1415 said:

  hi,
 
Do yiou have a review on teh audio technica IM50?
Seems perfect for me. And quite cheap online.

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I personally haven’t tried them. Need to finish the CKX5iS review before queuing up any more Audio-Technicas.
 

pedro oliveira said:

   
Please do JOKER ALL MIGHTY!!!!!! XD
 
They are damn good...... I think i am buying a couple more pairs just in case.....

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I got a spare recently as well when they were $6.99 on Groupon .

hi joker. got a question. how would you describe the sound signature of noble 4c/s? is it closer to 1964v6(more neutral) or jh13pro(slightly bassier), or as what they put on the website "ideal pairing with vocal, acoustic, and classical music"?

unknownguardian said:

  hi joker. got a question. how would you describe the sound signature of noble 4c/s? is it closer to 1964v6(more neutral) or jh13pro(slightly bassier), or as what they put on the website "ideal pairing with vocal, acoustic, and classical music"?

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To me it's more neutral/slightly more mid-centric than those - the V6 and JH13 and especially the JH13 elevate the bass and treble a little compared to the 4S.

after many years as an audiogon-type  i started losing my enthusiasm for two-channel gear and started immersing myself in this head-fi realm. if i may, a few observations:
1. this thread has had over 4m views, which (paris hilton sex tapes aside) has to be some sort of a record. the obsessive, erudite and genuinely worthwhile efforts of its author is a superhuman accomplishment on a par with the painting of the Sistine chapel or construction of the great wall.
2. unlike the cranky old white guys who dominate other audio sites, there's a lot of diversity here. very cordial, as well--haven't seen any of the psycho-political bickering that inevitably kicks in on your peer pages. a good thing.
3. likewise, aside from the obligatory bose-and-beats bashing, there's very little class warfare and snobbery going on here--people are just as sincere about the <$20 recs as they are about the fancy stuff.
4. to which end, as many others have opined, the law of diminishing returns kicks in quicker in this field than elsewhere. since starting here, i've been gradually "upgrading" from the marked-down-on-amazon <$50 class to the highly touted $200 class--i'm surprised at how incrementally small the improvements have been and how, even with, say, the eph-100s or fxt90s in the drawer i still sometimes reach for the ($15)mee 9p or  ($25)portapros.
cheers and have a great weekend

loomisjohnson said:

   
2. unlike the cranky old white guys 
 

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Is that appropriate?

@loomisjohnson Thanks .
 

loomisjohnson said:

  4. to which end, as many others have opined, the law of diminishing returns kicks in quicker in this field than elsewhere. since starting here, i've been gradually "upgrading" from the marked-down-on-amazon <$50 class to the highly touted $200 class--i'm surprised at how incrementally small the improvements have been and how, even with, say, the eph-100s or fxt90s in the drawer i still sometimes reach for the ($15)mee 9p or  ($25)portapros.
cheers and have a great weekend

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And getting smaller - nowadays there are $50 sets that sound more similar to the $200 stuff than to the M9P. Good news for audio fans everywhere . 

ljokerl said:

@loomisjohnson Thanks  .


And getting smaller - nowadays there are $50 sets that sound more similar to the $200 stuff than to the M9P. Good news for audio fans everywhere . 

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Making me regret those dunu dn-1000 i just ordered since i already own the vsd1. Maybe i can send those dunus back when they arrive

loomisjohnson said:

 
4. to which end, as many others have opined, the law of diminishing returns kicks in quicker in this field than elsewhere. since starting here, i've been gradually "upgrading" from the marked-down-on-amazon <$50 class to the highly touted $200 class--i'm surprised at how incrementally small the improvements have been and how, even with, say, the eph-100s or fxt90s in the drawer i still sometimes reach for the ($15)mee 9p or  ($25)portapros.
cheers and have a great weekend

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I hate my $15 ksc75's and $25 sportapros (ie portapros). And my $40 vsdle's and zero audio dx210's. They are a downer to my upgraditis. My other gear don't seem to appreciate them very much at all!

rush-n-crush said:

Making me regret those dunu dn-1000 i just ordered since i already own the vsd1. Maybe i can send those dunus back when they arrive

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I doubt it... I still gotta find someone who doesn't like the DN-1000 purely because of sound. If you do it's more likely because of fit issues. It's my best purchase in 2013!

d marc0 said:

I doubt it... I still gotta find someone who doesn't like the DN-1000 purely because of sound. If you do it's more likely because of fit issues. It's my best purchase in 2013!

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The man speaketh! Btw, I do realize that the dn1k's are great and worth the money. Wish I had them! (much to the chagrin of my cheapo goodies lol)